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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Muso88 (talk | contribs) at 10:54, 4 January 2011 (→‎level 3 warning for deleting discussion about Moorings's limited English). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Edits and removals of works involved with ronny moorings are removed all the time. It seems a rampage is going on on this site. stop being so childish and leave things as they are , add something constructive and stop trying to demean the above


[Image:Information.svg|25px|alt=|link=]] Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Clan of Xymox, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Please explain your reasons for deleting text on History: "Confirm timing of original members Wolbert and Nooten leaving Xymox:"

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Clan_of_Xymox&diff=404838810&oldid=404837855

Anka Wolbert (talk) 18:24, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Please do not introduce incorrect information into articles, as you did to Clan of Xymox. Your edits appear to be vandalism and have been reverted. If you believe the information you added was correct, please cite references or sources or discuss the changes on the article's talk page before making them again. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you.

Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Clan_of_Xymox&diff=369171196&oldid=369029946

Please note that your revision at 13:09 20 June erroneously deletes reference to Anka Wolbert (for your easy reference to the incorrect deletion, please see below)

17:30, 19 June 2010 In 1982 Anka Wolbert and Ronnie Moorings began making music in The Netherlands under the name Xymox, self-publishing the EP "Subsequent Pleasures" in 1983.

Revision as of 13:09, 20 June 2010 by Knowitallfortoday: Ronny Moorings began making music in The Netherlands under the name Xymox, self-publishing the EP "Subsequent Pleasures" in 1984 also featuring Anke Wolbert on the track Call It Weird. This was the starting point of the band Xymox.

To protect the correct legal copyright of the parties involved, please note the facts below: (this information is also posted on the Discussion page of the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Clan_of_Xymox)

Anka Wolbert (AKA Anke Wolbert) and Ronny Moorings started Xymox in 1983. Anka Wolbert and Ronny Moorings wrote and self-released the EP "Subsequent Pleasures" in 1984. Pieter Nooten joined the band and became the third songwriter in 1985. Xymox signed to 4AD in 1985 (changing the band's name to Clan of Xymox), and released two albums, "Clan of Xymox" (1985) and "Medusa" (1986). All songs on these albums are jointly written by Anka Wolbert, Pieter Nooten and Ronny Moorings. Under Polygram Clan of Xymox released two albums, "Twist of Shadows" (1989) and "Phoenix" (1991). All tracks on both albums are written by Anka Wolbert and Ronny Moorings, with contributions by Pieter Nooten. After "Phoenix", Anka Wolbert and Pieter Nooten left the band.

Anka Wolbert (talk) 13:07, 29 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

December 2010

Please stop adding inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. It is considered spamming and Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising or promotion. Because Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, additions of links to Wikipedia will not alter search engine rankings. If you continue spamming, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Drmies (talk) 20:36, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles, as you did to Michael Brook. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 21:00, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

More Clan

You have made many changes to Clan of Xymox, many of which were not verified, and some of which contradicted the information given in published, reliable sources (starting with the date the band started, for instance). Those edits resulted in this version, which isn't even up to par grammatically. I have undone those changes. What sources you did add (a Billboard article, for instance) I will attempt to reinstate, but going through every individual edit of yours is not a fruitful way to edit.

While I appreciate your efforts to improve the article, edits must be based on reliable sources. You cannot simply enter information that contradicts such sources. Unverified information will be removed, especially if such information is not neutral. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 22:25, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • what is to you a reliable source ? an ex band member who pops up after 20 years inactivity and starts editing or the bands current bio and record label ? further all verifications I gave to you but simply ignore them..without any GOOD reason. If you find a mistake just change the mistake but not delete the whole paragraph, that is out of order just the same
    • As I have mentioned to you a few times already, a reliable source is what Wikipedia defines as a reliable source: Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources. The implication that I favor one sets of edits over another is really silly: if you look at what I've added to the article you see that it is all based on published information. Whatever references you have given are not reliable--YouTube videos, Amazon.com links, personal websites, et cetera. Moreover, you persist in adding information that contradicts published information, and in adding things that are simply unencyclopedic (unverified praise). Couple that with the personal attacks you have made to User:Anka Wolberts and to me, and I don't really see why I should even discuss these matters with you--but I do so anyway, and I will continue to engage in discussion. But this edit war on the article, that has to stop.

      As I have said before, if you want to improve the article, do it according to Wikipedia's policies. If you don't wish to do so, then don't edit here--Clan of Xymox existed long before Wikipedia did, and they don't need it to continue as a band.

      One final thing: if you have a conflict of interest, as I suspect, then maybe you should declare it. Drmies (talk) 02:31, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

January 2011

Welcome to Wikipedia. The recent edit you made to Clan of Xymox has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thank you. Logan Talk Contributions 00:25, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • As an example of your edits, this one will suffice: you removed a perfectly valid source, and inserted a bunch of unencyclopedic and unverified information like this, "January 2006 the EP" Weak In My Knees", included are remixes of Azoic, Destroid ,Grendel and Siva Six plus a video .followed by the release of the album " Breaking Point" which got again all praise and glory , entered high on all charts possible and imaginable , COX embarked on a further tour , this time operating from Germany, where the album Breaking Point got finished. "--which also isn't in proper English. "Got again all praise and glory"? This is an encyclopedia, not a fansite. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 01:15, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not attack other editors, as you did here: User talk:Anka Wolbert. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Drmies (talk) 01:38, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is your last warning; the next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Clan of Xymox, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. It is pretty obvious that there is a conflict of interest here, but changing "Moorings" to "Wolbert" is really silly. Whatever oud zeer you are carrying around, Wikipedia is not the place to let it out. Please stop your disruptive editing--stop adding unverified information, removing verified information, making personal attacks on other editors and band members, and adding Amazon (that is, spam) links. Drmies (talk) 01:52, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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I do not understand why this bio is not accepted ( it has the proper footnotes) bias reigns here at this Clan Of Xymox page

I do not understand why this bio is not accepted ( it has the proper footnotes) bias reigns here at this Clan Of Xymox page

Ronny Moorings, Anka Wolbert and Pieter Nooten, 1989
Ronny Moorings, Anka Wolbert and Pieter Nooten

, 1989]]

The band formed in Amsterdam in 1984, consisting of Ronny Moorings & Anka Wolbert and released a mini-album, Subsequent Pleasures, in 1984.[1] They were invited to support Dead Can Dance,[2] and were signed to the indie label 4AD, which released their eponymous debut album in 1985.[1] picked up by John Peel, leading to the band recording two of the Peel Sessions at the BBC.[3][4]

In 1987 they released their second and last album on 4AD, Medusa, before signing with PolyGram.[1] Whilst Pieter Nooten was concentrating on his "Sleeps With The Fishes " album with the artist Michael Brook , Clan Of Xymox concentrated on the album and release of Medusa in 1987's . "Medusa" was mostly a dark record, in places a chilling exercise in atmospherics and modern pop dynamics. Aided by the impressive 12 inch single "Blind Hearts " (1988) the band really started to create a buzz. Clan Of Xymox were now not only inhabiting the arthouse but filling dance floors in the more discerning clubs. "Blind Hearts" reached number 1 spot in Rockpool and Billboard.[5] Pieter Nooten recorded and released his album Sleeps With The Fishes (4AD, 1987), in collaboration with Michael Brook.[6]

The band began to sound more accessible, their third album, Twist of Shadows (Polygram, 1989), being described as "electro-pop" and most successful selling to that date. The album's artwork was done by Vaughan Oliver, and Tony Visconti provided string arrangements. The singles, "Imagination and Obsession [7]" made the US charts.[1] SPIN, praised the album and called it "still ethereal, big and foreboding" and praised the production by Peter Walsh (of Simple Minds fame).[8] By this time the band had moved to England, and released their fourth album, Phoenix, on PolyGram in 1991;[1] Xymox charted in the USA with the single " Phoenix of My Heart " number 5 on the dance charts [9]after this album, Anka Wolbert and Pieter Nooten left the band[citation needed]; Xymox left PolyGram continuing alone with Ronny Moorings [10]to release Metamorphosis (1992) and Headclouds (1993) independently,[1] on his own X-Ult label.[11][12]

In 1995 Ronny Moorings toured under the banner of Xymox in the Netherlands with former band mates Will Anvers and Frank Weyzig and his girlfriend Mojca on keyboards. Ronny Moorings made in 1996 for Domark music for computer games named Total Mayhem and Revenant with classical music and ambient sounding tracks.{[13]

In 1997 Ronny Moorings ended the Xymox era and restarted Clan of Xymox; he recruited besides Mojca new live members and started touring. The band signed with the independent US label Tess Records and released Hidden Faces.[14]

The live band, consisting of Ronny Moorings guitars and vocals, Mojca Zugna bass guitar, and vocals, Rob Vonk guitar, Rui Ramos drums, and Nina Simic keyboards, co-headlined the Wave-Gotik-Treffen and Zillo festivals in Germany[15], where two singles from Hidden Faces, "Out Of The Rain" and "This World," both reached the top 10 in the independent charts.[16]

In 1998 Clan Of Xymox got signed by Metropolis Records in the USA and Pandaimonium Records in Europe. In 2000 the band released Live, a double CD with nineteen tracks and two videos in the special ltd edition [17] The lineup consisted of Moorings on guitars & vocals; Mojca on bass guitar, keyboards and vocals; Rui Ramos drums; and Nina Simic on keyboards. The tracks were recorded during their Central and South American tour in 1999.[18] with the climax for the band in Mexico City's being the former Olympic Stadium Palacio d' Deportes in Mexico City where 20.000 people attended their concert.


1999 saw the release of Creatures[19], produced by Dave Allen. Also that year 4AD re-released in the USA the first album, Clan of Xymox[20]. Clan of Xymox backed up the album Creatures with an extensive world tour in 1999[21], starting in the United States with COX headlining on the [[Convergence_(goth_festival)|Convergence Festival][22]in New Orleans, continued to tour the USA and returned a few months later again.

September 2001 saw the Clan live at big festivals such as Mera Luna, Zillo and Eurorock but also the release of " Notes From The Underground ", acclaimed by critics as their best work ever. The album ranked already No 1 in the USA 's Musicfolio chart as the best album of 2001 and reached No 2 in the well known DAC charts plus numerous chart positions around the globe.


The year 2002 saw in April a new tour plus a very first Remix Album of the band, all tracks of "Notes From The Underground " remixed by renowned artists like Front 242 or Assemblage 23 etc, called REMIXES FROM THE UNDERGROUND" and included was also the very first video disc of COX.

A few months later the single " There's No Tomorrow" was released with various remixes on it and soon 2003 saw the release of their latest album" Farewell",It topped the DAC charts with a number 1 position, number 2 on the World DJ charts, was voted number 1 in Zillo Magazine soundcheck , basically topping in many alternative charts around the world.

Touring the Album"Farewell"the band gave a concert in Lima,Peru where they never had a gothic / electro band performing before. Hundreds of fans were waiting for the Clan to arrive at the airport and caused chaos for the airport security! [23]

Other Latin American countries were included on this tour like Chile & Argentina were COX already played before. Between 2002 & 2003 saw Clan Of Xymox touring many countries in Europe, playing festivals, a return to Mexico, in short playing many shows for thousands of people. In 2004 a new live members joined the band on guitar,Mario Usai. ( known from playing the bass with Sophya)

In September 2004 Best Of Clan Of Xymox album was released.[24]

January 2006 the EP" Weak In My Knees", included are remixes of Azoic, Destroid ,Grendel and Siva Six plus a video .followed by the release of the album " Breaking Point" which got again all praise and glory , entered high on all charts possible and imaginable , COX embarked on a further tour , this time operating from Germany, where the album Breaking Point got finished. 2007 Saw the release of the single Heroes ( David Bowie ) and On A Mission , a kind of taster/teaser for the forthcoming album Clan Of Xymox. March 21st 2008 saw the first double DVD ( Visible, limited edition )release of Clan Of Xymox ever. The DVD is full of clips , live material , a Live special at Mera Luna [25], backstage scenes , an interview with Ronny Moorings, impressions of personal footage during the foreign tours It reached number 1 sales charts, backed up by an extensive tour in 2008 including many festivals.


Early 2009 Clan of Xymox switched labels, going to Trisol Records in Europe but staying on Metropolis in the USA and Gravitator in Russia. In July 2009 the single "Emily" was released[26].July 2009 saw the release of the single "Emily" ,a fortaste for the new album and reached nb 1 in DUC & DAC


The last album "In Love We Trust"came out worldwide August the 18th 2009 and reached nb 1 in the DUC[27] & DAC [28]nr.4 and is now already considered another classic of the band. The band announced a new album release for May 2011

1. ^ a b c d e f g h Strong, Martin Charles (2003). The great indie discography. Cannongate. ISBN 9781841953359. 2. ^ a b "RPM News". CMJ New Music Monthly. 23 August 1999. Retrieved 31 December 2010. 3. ^ Axel Schmidt, Klaus Neumann-Braun, Axel; Klaus Neumann-Braun (2004). Die Welt der Gothics: Spielräume düster konnotierter Transzendenz. VS Verlag. pp. 269-70. ISBN 9783531143538. Retrieved 31 December 2010. 4. ^ alternative press issue 39 page 45 5. ^ Sutton, Michael. "Clan of Xymox: Biography". Allmusic. Retrieved 1 January 2011. 6. ^ "Peel Sessions: 04/06/1985 - Xymox". BBC Radio 1. Retrieved 1 January 2011. 7. ^ "Peel Sessions: 03/11/1985 - Xymox". BBC Radio 1. Retrieved 1 January 2011. 8. ^ rockpool march 14, 1988 page 21 9. ^ Robins, Ira A. (1997). The Trouser Press guide to '90s rock: the all-new fifth edition of The Trouser Press record guide. Simon & Schuster. p. 116. ISBN 9780684814377. 10. ^ billboard november 25 ,1989 11. ^ Wright, Christian Logan (August 1989). "Rev. of Xymox, Twist of Shadows". SPIN. Retrieved 31 December 2010. 12. ^ page 128 , Rolling Stone June 13th 1991 13. ^ Melodymaker November 28 1992 14. ^ Melodymaker November28 1992 15. ^ Select Magazine November 1992 page 86 16. ^ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domark 17. ^ http://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Faces-Clan-Xymox/dp/B00000DG4U 18. ^ http://www.wave-gotik-treffen.de/past.php?reqYear=1998 19. ^ http://www.trendcharts.de/de/trendcharts.html 20. ^ http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1259639/a/Live.htm 21. ^ http://www.clanofxymox.com/ look under old tours and click links 22. ^ http://www.metropolis-records.com/artist/clan-of-xymox 23. ^ http://www.4ad.com/ 24. ^ http://www.clanofxymox.com see old tour page 25. ^ see old tour page clan of xymox homepage : www.clanofxymox.com 26. ^ http://www.metropolis-records.com/artist/clan-of-xymox 27. ^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpuClkUd4F8 28. ^ http://www.trisol.de/en/news.html 29. ^ http://www.cybercase.nl/duc/duc.php 30. ^ http://www.sonic-seducer.de/index.php/DAC_Deutsche_Alternative_Charts.html 31. ^ I:Scintilla remixed by Mortiis, Combichrist, KMFDM and Clan Of Xymox for new album

(knowitallfortoday)

Xymox

In this edit, you inserted a few links:

Then, there's claims like "It reached number 1 sales charts" which are unverified.

You should not be surprised that such edits are reversed. I am explaining this again, for one last time, so that there can be no doubt that it has been pointed out to you what the problem is with these edits. Now, I'm going to go through that edit again to see if there is anything in there that's useful and reliable--again, so that there can be no doubt that I am making good-faith efforts to improve the article. Drmies (talk) 05:13, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit warring

I have asked for other editors to look into your edit-warring. You may see my report at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. Drmies (talk) 05:56, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates or other materials from Wikipedia, as you did at Clan of Xymox, you may be blocked from editing. Stop deleting discussion the about Ronny Moorings' "limited English" on your user page Muso88 (talk) 10:54, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ a b c d e f Strong, Martin Charles (2003). The great indie discography. Cannongate. ISBN 9781841953359.
  2. ^ Sutton, Michael. "Clan of Xymox: Biography". Allmusic. Retrieved 1 January 2011.
  3. ^ "Peel Sessions: 04/06/1985 - Xymox". BBC Radio 1. Retrieved 1 January 2011.
  4. ^ "Peel Sessions: 03/11/1985 - Xymox". BBC Radio 1. Retrieved 1 January 2011.
  5. ^ rockpool march 14, 1988 page 21
  6. ^ Robins, Ira A. (1997). The Trouser Press guide to '90s rock: the all-new fifth edition of The Trouser Press record guide. Simon & Schuster. p. 116. ISBN 9780684814377.
  7. ^ billboard november 25 ,1989
  8. ^ Wright, Christian Logan (August 1989). "Rev. of Xymox, Twist of Shadows". SPIN. Retrieved 31 December 2010.
  9. ^ page 128 , Rolling Stone June 13th 1991
  10. ^ Melodymaker November 28 1992
  11. ^ Melodymaker November28 1992
  12. ^ Select Magazine November 1992 page 86
  13. ^ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domark
  14. ^ http://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Faces-Clan-Xymox/dp/B00000DG4U
  15. ^ http://www.wave-gotik-treffen.de/past.php?reqYear=1998
  16. ^ http://www.trendcharts.de/de/trendcharts.html
  17. ^ http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1259639/a/Live.htm
  18. ^ http://www.clanofxymox.com/ look under old tours and click links
  19. ^ http://www.metropolis-records.com/artist/clan-of-xymox
  20. ^ http://www.4ad.com/
  21. ^ http://www.clanofxymox.com see old tour page
  22. ^ see old tour page clan of xymox homepage : www.clanofxymox.com
  23. ^ Canal N , entrivista Clan Of Xymox : ref: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-DQHcX9RGE
  24. ^ http://www.metropolis-records.com/artist/clan-of-xymox
  25. ^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpuClkUd4F8
  26. ^ http://www.trisol.de/en/news.html
  27. ^ http://www.cybercase.nl/duc/duc.php
  28. ^ http://www.sonic-seducer.de/index.php/DAC_Deutsche_Alternative_Charts.html
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