Talk:Miguel de Cervantes

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Improvement of article - start with the lead

If we want to get this article up in quality, we need to first start with the lead. Compare this with Shakespeare's lead. Why are his parents and brothers listed - that's something for the bio section. Birth city is enough and then we can go directly into summary of his works. Anyone else interested by the fact that he and Shakespeare died on the same day.--RossF18 (talk) 18:08, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Date of birth is unknown

See Talk:Miguel de Cervantes/Archive1#It's unknown when Cervantes was born.

In keeping with other articles (Shakespeare, Beethoven, etc) where we make it clear in the body of the article that we do not know the exact date of birth, we certainly should not present a lede para with an unqualified date of birth as we’re currently doing with Cervantes. That is very misleading and, well, wrong. The best we can do is surmise, assume, speculate and believe that he was born 29 September, but we do not know it as a fact, so we should not present it as if it is a fact. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 11:50, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pronounce

Both family names (undoubtly Saavedra, subject to discuss Cervantes) are of Galician-Portuguese origin, and Saavedra were (and today is, as long as I can hear) pronounced with long vowel: [miˈɣel de θerˈβantes sa:ˈβeðɾa], Saavedra comes from Latin sala vetera (intervocalic l dropped, as usual in Galician-Portuguese, remaining first a long vowel and after a crasis, the vowel being long no more). The Spanish equivalent is Salavieja, another common surname. It is, curiously, in modern Galician and Portuguese that this surname is pronunced with short a, no long one, even with old spelling (double a).91.117.9.231 (talk) 00:05, 10 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

article sections

why is the don quichotte section included in the death section ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.141.236.28 (talk) 21:32, 25 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Who Were His Wife and Kids?

He was married and he did have children, but nothing is said here about them, except a brief reference to one of his daughters.