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Adding missing results

The results on this page were very misleading, only counting statto.com's league results is way off and you miss out on 35 years of results. User:'Arry Boy is right. Millwall's record at the old Den alone is Won 8, Drawn 7, Lost 5. There are still a lot missing, but I added the few I could find. The Millwall and West Ham early 1900's up to 1920 history, before both joined the league seems to be very elusive. Maybe when I get my hands on either Millwall: The Complete Record or West Ham: The Complete Record, will this table be complete, unless anyone else has accurate results from this period. NoOneLikesUs (talk) 14:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Who uses the term East London derby?

Can find no reference other than Wiki for this term. Millwall is in South London! Unlikely they would describe themselves as East Londoners.--Egghead06 (talk) 07:20, 1 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bermondsey is in South London, Millwall is in East London. (00:23, 6 January 2011 (UTC)) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.10.87.105 (talk)

Millwall FC haven't been based in Millwall for quite some time. Timrollpickering (talk) 22:33, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

But they originated there, bear the name, and is the reason there is a derby to begin with. The 2 clubs originated less than 100 yards from each other.

This article is not accurate

There is something seriously wrong with this article. My records show that at The Den alone, Millwall played 20 Games against the Irons: P20, Won 8, Drawn 7, Lost 5, Goals for:31, Goals Against:25, and that's excluding games played at Upton Park, and at The New Den. Cheers, 'Arry Boy (talk) 18:09, 3 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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THAMES IRONWORKS

SEASON LEAGUE P W D L F A P POS

1896-97 LOND-1 12 7 2 3 17 17 16 2/7 1897-98 LOND-1 16 12 3 1 47 15 27 1/9 1898-99 SOUTH-2L 22 19 1 2 64 16 39 1/12 1899-00 SOUTH-1 28 8 5 15 30 45 21 14/15

F.A. CUP 1899-00 5Q MILLWALL ATHLETIC H 1-2

1900-01 SOUTH-1 28 14 5 9 40 28 33 6/15 1901-02 SOUTH-1 30 17 6 7 45 28 40 4/16

         WEST-1    16    6    2    8   30   20   14      7/9

1902-03 SOUTH-1 30 9 10 11 35 49 28 10/16

         WEST-1    16    2    4   10   15   29    8      9/9

1903-04 SOUTH-1 34 10 7 17 39 44 27 12/18

         WEST-1    16    2    4   10   13   31    8      9/9

1904-05 SOUTH-1 34 12 8 14 48 42 32 10/18

         WEST-1    20    8    4    8   37   42   20      5/11

1905-06 SOUTH-1 34 14 5 15 42 39 33 11/18

         WEST-1    20    7    5    8   32   35   19      8/11

1906-07 SOUTH-1 38 15 14 9 60 41 44 5/20

         WEST-1B   10    7    1    2   25   14   15      1/6

1907-08 SOUTH-1 38 15 10 13 47 48 40 10/20

         WEST-1B   12    1    1   10   16   27    3      7/7

1908-09 SOUTH-1 40 16 4 20 56 60 36 17/21

         WEST-1B   12    5    0    7   21   23   10      5/7

1909-10 SOUTH-1 42 15 15 12 69 56 45 9/22 1910-11 SOUTH-1 38 17 11 10 63 46 45 5/20 1911-12 SOUTH-1 38 13 7 18 64 69 33 13/20 1912-13 SOUTH-1 38 18 12 8 66 46 48 3/20 1913-14 SOUTH-1 38 15 12 11 61 60 42 6/20 1914-15 SOUTH-1 38 18 9 11 58 47 43 4/20







MILLWALL ATHLETIC

1899-00 SOUTH-1 28 12 3 13 36 37 27 7/15 1900-01 SOUTH-1 28 17 2 9 55 32 36 4/15

         WEST-1    16    9    5    2   33   14   23      2/9

1901-02 SOUTH-1 30 13 6 11 48 31 32 6/16

         WEST-1    16    8    1    7   25   29   17      4/9

1902-03 SOUTH-1 30 14 3 13 52 37 31 7/16

         WEST-1    16    6    3    7   23   29   15      5/9

1903-04 SOUTH-1 34 16 8 10 64 42 40 7/18 1904-05 SOUTH-1 34 11 7 16 38 47 29 15/18

         WEST-1    20    7    3   10   29   32   17      7/11

1905-06 SOUTH-1 34 11 11 12 38 41 33 12/18

         WEST-1    20    7    5    8   28   29   19      6/11

1906-07 SOUTH-1 38 18 6 14 71 50 42 7/20

         WEST-1B   10    1    3    6    5   15    5      6/6

1907-08 SOUTH-1 38 19 8 11 49 32 46 3/20

         WEST-1B   12    9    2    1   31   13   20      1/7

1908-09 SOUTH-1 40 16 6 18 59 61 38 11/21

         WEST-1B   12    8    2    2   24   11   18      1/7

1909-10 SOUTH-1 42 15 7 20 45 59 37 16/22 1910-11 SOUTH-1 38 11 9 18 42 54 31 15/20 1911-12 SOUTH-1 38 15 10 13 60 57 40 8/20 1912-13 SOUTH-1 38 19 7 12 62 43 45 6/20 1913-14 SOUTH-1 38 11 12 15 51 56 34 15/20 1914-15 SOUTH-1 38 16 10 12 50 51 42 8/20

The Wiver

"One other theory of their rivalry is because of the strong similarities between the supporters. Both sets are seen as loyalists and Protestant compared to some club rivalries being based on Catholic beliefs to Protestant beliefs, ..." is so far from an explanation as to be worthless!

Do none of the people who wrote this section know about the intense rivalry in general between the East End and South East London? Its all about "what side of The Wiver you was born on aintit?".[1] -- PBS (talk)#