Talk:The Hobbit (film series)

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The Hobbit

I think this article has become very unbalanced: the parts about Del Toro, who has no involvement in the project anymore are huge. Isn't it a bit strange that we have longer sections about Del Toro's interpretation, than the interpretation of the current director. It doesn't stop with those sections: in another part (like Structure) Del Toro get's more mentioning then nescesary. I'm not suggesting deleting valid information of course: I just don't think it belongs (as big as now) on this particular page. Perhaps it could be moved to a new page for 'the history of the film-project' or something like that.

In production soon!

I don't know how much is in the article, but I've found some new sources. Will start production in February (2011?). Sources:

--Glimmer721 ^talk 19:41, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the sources. Appreciate it. − Jhenderson⁷⁷⁷ 21:07, 16 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There is still some turmoil, as evidenced here. While there is a greenlight, things are far from settled. Erik (talk | contribs) 15:24, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If it ever does come out, we're going to have to have a whole article on how the movie actually got to be made, and then have a separate one for each movie! I haven't gotten my hopes up yet. --Glimmer721 ^talk 21:49, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Main cast confirmed

Martin Freeman as Bilbo. Richard Armitage as Thorin. Australian actor Stephen Hunter as Bombur. New Zealand actors John Callen and Peter Hambleton and Oin and Gloin. British actors Aidan Turner and Rob Kazinsky as Fili and Kili. Graham McTavish as Dwalin. [5] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.7.140.3 (talk) 04:10, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Page Title

The Hobbit film project seems a bit strange. Why not take precedent from Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (also a book made into a two part film) and just name it The Hobbit (film)? Then just explain that it will be cut into two parts (which the article already does). Sir Robert "Brightgalrs" Schultz de Plainsboro (talk) 20:07, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See #Change in focus, there are a number of measures being employed here to distinguish this as an article on a planned film's progress and not a film article. There are none of the usual film identifiers such as the name, infobox and categories. Once filming begins the article can be restructured and moved to the more appropriate namespace.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 20:15, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

this movie should of been completed 5 years ago

the article doesnt explain enough about why in the world it has taken them so many years since the release of "return of the king" to get started on this movie. there is obviously a huge fan base for this series and this genere in general. Im still puzzled as to why there hasnt been a flood of movies in this genere made by other writers and directionrs, to come out when everyone saw their popularity and much money they make. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.160.131.17 (talk) 07:34, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Still Two Films?

Since Jackson replaced Del Toro, has there been any mention of if they're still going with the two movie apporach, and if it'll still be split in half the way Del Toro wanted, or if they'd maybe go back to Jackson's original concept of a "bridge" film? The Great Morgil (talk) 18:05, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the current news is that it will be two movies, no talk of a bridge film. The One Ring.net Hobbit Movie FAQ --Msilverstar (talk) 06:49, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Christopher Lee

- In an interview with Rushprint.no Christopher Lee has also expressed interest in playing the voice of Smaug.

Please do not remove this from the talk page as well..... this interview was performed by rushprint.no and reported on TheOneRing.net —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.245.32.210 (talk) 18:31, 21 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thranduil

Deadline said in October that David Tennant is in talks for a part, but didn't specify which one. Then a few months later after much fan speculation, "Thranduil" was added on IMDb for Tennant and now everyone seems to be repeating it. Is there a reliable source? If not, it shouldn't be here... --Tabya (talk) 20:36, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2011/01/11/41641-david-tennant-joins-the-hobbit/ The cited source seems to confirm Thranduil. Sir Robert "Brightgalrs" Schultz de Plainsboro (talk) 03:33, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"[...] David Tennant is once again being mentioned as possibly playing Thranduil [...]". That sounds to me like they are just repeating rumours. No source mentioned at all. --Tabya (talk) 10:39, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/news/a297333/david-tennant-joins-the-hobbit.html “David Tennant has been linked to the role of Thranduil the Elvenking in the forthcoming Hobbit movie." plus the table has him down for "in talks". Sir Robert "Brightgalrs" Schultz de Plainsboro (talk) 03:37, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nemoy

IMDB says that Leanord Nemoy (spelling?) is RUMOURED to be playing Smaug - or voicing I'm assuming. Haven't found anything else that says this, and I'm not sure if rumours belong on wikipedia, so I havent added it myself. Lordloss210 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.101.255.250 (talk) 19:08, 3 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Official Website

The Official Website that is linked to the article doesn't look like an Official Website at all. Please take a look at it and comment below. Planning to remove it but I need a consensus. Vinayaka Halemane (talk) 09:41, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The site doesn't claim to be official, merely the "number one Hobbit fansite on facebook". I believe that fansites are largely discouraged by the guidelines on external links.

I also note that the current state of the "External links" section was due to this 15 Feb edit, which removed all but said fansite. While I'm not suggesting all the links should be restored, it does seem that the IMDb links and the Official Movie Blog might be candidates for reinclusion. --88.104.39.55 (talk) 10:18, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fansite removed. IMDB added. thehobbitblog.com not added because it appears to be the official blog for the defunct Del Toro version of The Hobbit. It has not been updated since 2008. The Hero of This Nation (talk) 10:29, 4 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

thehobbitblog.com has been updated. They have also put promo-photos of PJ. The administrator has commented in one of blog's posts - 'Our apologies. We needed to upgrade the infrastructure for the site as the old version was no longer being supported' (answering the question of deleting old accounts). Seems like the blog is now official one. And here are the whois results. --Floydgeo (talk) 23:05, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Saoirse Ronan

Has Saoirse Ronan been confirmed as A) Itaril, B) being in the films at all? --79.68.237.87 (talk) 03:53, 13 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The Hobbit (film project) → The Hobbit (2012 film) — The project page is now ready to be moved to the film name space with the start of principal photography in accordance with WP:NFF. --TriiipleThreat (talk) 09:03, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Part 1 will be in 2012, but what about Part 2? Will it have a separate article? Glimmer721 ^talk 14:39, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As of now no, it is a singular film released in two separate parts similar to Kill Bill. As far as the name space is concerned we should go with the earliest release year.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 14:47, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support & Suggestion - As per nomination and Shift to The Hobbit (film) instead, that page is currently a redirect.KiasuKiasiMan 14:45, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It should be noted that The Hobbit (1977 film) exists and naming this page The Hobbit (film) conflicts with the notability of that article per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (films).--TriiipleThreat (talk) 14:50, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support - as per WP:NFF. Filming has commenced. --Rob Sinden (talk) 15:10, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support - as per WP:NFF for The Hobbit (2012 film), including year so as not to conflict with 1977 film. --Tenebrae (talk) 15:41, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support - for obvious reasons already being stated. It having two parts right now is in no concern just yet. Kill Bill, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (film) and The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn are examples of that. Jhenderson⁷⁷⁷ 20:09, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Follow precedents set by these films.Sir Robert "Brightgalrs" Schultz de Plainsboro (talk) 01:17, 22 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]