Wikipedia:WikiProject Metalworking

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Template:Infobox WikiProject Metalworking

Welcome to the Metalworking WikiProject!

Metalworking is a broad subject, consisting of materials, processes, techniques, tools, and theories. This project includes all of these topics. While jewelry making is covered, the subject of jewelry is covered by the jewelry taskforce.

Our primary goals are:

Create important articles, such as different types of milling machines and techniques.
Standardize organization, layout, and terminology among metalworking articles.
Wikify metalworking articles. Many articles lack internal links. Many pages are orphans.
Remove redundancy and (often conflicting) duplication. Some topics are covered on two or more pages, and often those pages disagree.
Categorize articles and provide useful navigation templates to aid user navigation beyond internal links.
Provide references to establish article content as verifiable.
Provide images to supplement information in metalworking articles.

All are encouraged to contribute to articles as much as possible, including to this WikiProject page.

How to help

Contribute and help out where and when you can by:

adding some feedback
spreading the word
putting the metalworking template on related talk pages
submitting an article creation request
finding and categorizing a lost metalworking page
adopting a stub
starting or editing an article
monitoring articles by putting them on your watchlist and reverting any nonsense

Guidelines

Because metalworking articles tend not to be very large we like to combine the topic of the machine used to perform the process with the process, only if the machine's specific purpose is to do that one process. This article should be named after the process, not the machine. For example, broaching (metalworking) contains the information about broaching machines, because broaching machines are only used to broach. However, milling machine has its own article about the machine because it is used to mill, drill, etc.

To-do list

Metalworking articles by quality and importance
Quality	Importance
Quality	Top	High	Mid	Low	NA	???	Total
FA	3		1	4			8
GA	1	3	2	9			15
B	4	13	32	64		53	166
C	36	57	169	270		107	639
Start	5	32	111	519		156	823
Stub		1	19	327		79	426
List		1	6	9		1	17
Project					13		13
Template					22		22
NA	2		5	33	339		379
Assessed	51	107	345	1,235	374	396	2,508
Total	51	107	345	1,235	374	396	2,508
WikiWork factors (?)		ω = 9,751			Ω = 4.70

Add anything you see fit here.

Some things that need to be done:

~~Templates should be added to relevant pages.~~

I've gone through all of the categories in category:metalworking and added and assessed all of the applicable articles there. The only sub-cat I didn't go through is category:Artworks in metal, because I don't think there are any articles in there that are primarily ours. Wizard191 (talk) 17:57, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Categorization

~~Go through Category:Tools and its subcategories and categorize metalworking tools~~
Done! Wizard191 (talk) 19:18, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- ~~Categorize metalworking-related articles in Category:Tool stubs~~
  Done! Wizard191 (talk) 14:18, 3 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
~~Go through Category:Manufacturing and its subcategories and categorize metalworking-related articles~~
Done! Wizard191 (talk) 20:43, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
~~Go through Category:Metallurgy and its subcategories and categorize metalworking-related articles~~
Done! Wizard191 (talk) 16:35, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
~~Go through Category:Machines and its subcategories and categorize metalworking-related articles~~
Done! Wizard191 (talk) 17:48, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles needing attention

I'm considering moving Grinding dresser to Dressing (grinding), because there ought to be an article on dressing a wheel and I think combining grinding dresser with it makes sense. Thoughts? Wizard191 (talk) 00:14, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Dressing (grinding) is much closer to what the engineer or shop floor person would think of when searching. IMHO Wilhkar (talk) 17:38, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There are inconsistencies in the text at coining (mint)#Modern die production. Wizard191 (talk) 00:23, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I was working on cleaning up the casting (metalworking) articles, but sort of moved on to other things. I made it through most of the non-reusable pattern articles, but the rest still need a lot of work. Wizard191 (talk) 23:29, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Casting (metalworking)#Filling needs more info on high-pressure and gravity filling. Wizard191 (talk) 23:55, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Laser drilling currently has a lot of info about the theory, but nothing about the actual process, so this needs to be added. Wizard191 (talk) 22:30, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Stamping (metalworking)/Metal forming - see Talk:Stamping (metalworking) Wizard191 (talk) 23:15, 9 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Expound upon Spring back. Wizard191 (talk) 15:33, 15 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Requested articles

As far as i know, 'mill finish' refers to the surface roughness of a machined surface. I read somewhere (in a text about size-tolerance of holes to fit a ball-bearing into) that 3 um surface roughness is a usual value. This would ofcourse depend on type of machine, sharpness of cutting edge, and time afforded to make the hole. Thus it is not any specific roughness, but i think it generally indicates a quite flat surface that is not specularly reflecting (because wavelength of light is a bit less than a micrometer) and does not have any coating. Mill finish on a lathe would usually not have visible grooves, but mill finish on a milling machine often does have visible grooves, presumably because a milling cutter has multiple cutting edges that are not perfectly at same radius. I am not a native english speaker, so i am not completely sure that 'mill finish' actually has this meaning, so i dont put this text as a (start) article. Siwardio (talk) 18:51, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Mill finish" refers to the surface quality of stock as it comes from the mill, traditionally, for example, the rolling mill, but now extended to mean from whatever process produced it, e.g., a continuous caster, extrusion die, or other processes. Once the stock has been machined on a machine tool, the resulting surface is referred to by terms including "machined", "rough machined" or "roughed", "finish machined" or "finished". "Mill finish" can be quite wonderful or very rough, depending on the instance, so the term is kind of like a parameter more than a particular parameter value. — ¾-10 19:46, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Soaking pit Wizard191 (talk) 01:37, 16 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Stripper pin Wizard191 (talk) 00:51, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Side action / side pull Wizard191 (talk) 00:51, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Through hardening (currently a redirect) Wizard191 (talk) 00:35, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Core registration or registration (casting) Wizard191 (talk) 22:06, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Shakeout (casting) Wizard191 (talk) 00:35, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Chemical milling Wizard191 (talk) 22:07, 28 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Might i suggest combining this with Electrochemical machining? as they are essentially the same thing.--Pocketpencil (talk) 15:53, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Are they? I did a quick google search and came up with inconclusive results. Wizard191 (talk) 15:59, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
My mistake, i checked and Chemical machining is more or less a chemical etch with masking. No current applied to bath. Will go ahead and create an article at some point then --Pocketpencil (talk) 16:17, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Apparently the Industrial etching article states that industrial etching is also known as chemical milling, however I don't know how correct that statement is. Wizard191 (talk) 18:01, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Zinc plating Wizard191 (talk) 17:29, 30 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Straightening Wizard191 (talk) 18:32, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
ID grinding Wizard191 (talk) 20:07, 14 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Flame hardening Wizard191 (talk) 13:37, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Mold wash & refractory wash Wizard191 (talk) 21:32, 13 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Chill testing Wizard191 (talk) 00:54, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- A possible ref
Tooling (currently a redirect) Wizard191 (talk) 21:27, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Shaping (metalworking) Wizard191 (talk) 14:37, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Diffusion bonding Wizard191 (talk) 14:37, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Solid-state welding Wizard191 (talk) 17:22, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Gravity casting (see zinc aluminium) Wizard191 (talk) 19:23, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Direct chill casting Wizard191 (talk) 17:31, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Abrasion ratio The article about abrasive cutting does mention some rates at which a workpiece can be abraded, but there is no mention of how much the grinding disc is abraded, ie the ratio of volume removed from the workpiece to the volume removed from the grinding disc. This would depend on materials used, but some indication for some usual case (eg aluminum oxide on ordinary steel) would be useful to me.

Ideally it would even give some rule of thumb about how this depends on relative hardness of materials. Siwardio (talk) 19:26, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Laser machining (currently a redirect) - Here's a good ref: [1]. Wizard191 (talk) 21:58, 30 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Autogrinder Wizard191 (talk) 13:32, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Milling (machining) Wizard191 (talk) 22:41, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Gang milling needs to be merged into this after its creation. Wizard191 (talk) 22:41, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Machine tool coverage expansion to-do items. I realize that the eyes are bigger than the stomach workload-wise, but I wanted to get this out there as a goal to work toward. I think it will take me a few years to find time to take a big chunk out of it. Ideally Category:Lathes should have a subcat "Category:Cam-operated automatic lathes" [done; created Category:Automatic lathes (mechanically automated)], and within that subcat should be separate articles for the following: screw machine, automatic chucking lathe [no article yet separate from screw machine], Fay automatic lathe, and others that may occur to us. Before CNC proliferated to its current state, this class of machines was called simply "automatic lathes" or "automatics" [done; explained at cat page]. Also, we will need a separate article for turn-mill (with mill-turn being a redirect to it), because turn-mills are hybrids of lathes and mills and the more advanced ones cannot be categorized under either lathe or mill. Also we'll need a separate article for rotary transfer machines, which are kind of like the CNC successors to multispindle cam-op chuckers, but more accurately, they are multispindle turn-mills or mill-turns. And CNC lathe should eventually be a separate article (with turning center redirecting to it) that the subsection of lathe (metal) points to with a {{main}} link. Part of that article would be a section on turning centers with live tooling, which points to turn-mill as a successor development. I look forward to chipping away at all this. — ¾-10 02:03, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Just a friendly question...don't you think it would be better to include the information you wrote at Category:Automatic lathes (mechanically automated) in an article, because most readers don't see the cat pages? Wizard191 (talk) 12:26, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Good point. No doubt it can be incorporated somewhere. Maybe it would make sense to have a summary style article such as "Automatic lathe (mechanically automated)" that points to the various types with {{main}} links. Will plan to explore this further. — ¾-10 02:29, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - Yay! Progress. See automatic lathe, screw machine, and a tweak to Fay automatic lathe. Thanks for the nudge toward the article namespace, Wizard. — ¾-10 01:15, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      - Good work! The new layout look real nice, and seems much more logical. Thanks for your hard work. Wizard191 (talk) 01:46, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        3/4-10, is this done? Can I remove it? Wizard191 (talk) 23:29, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        Some pieces of it are done, whereas others aren't. It was kind of a forest of to-do items rather than one tree. I can userfy it tomorrow to unclog this list. — ¾-10 06:17, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
        There's no need to, I just didn't remember if you had finished it off or not. Wizard191 (talk) 14:14, 26 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Cadillac gauge/Cadillac gage Wizard191 (talk) 23:29, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Isothermal forging, It exist in Spanish WP ( es:Forjado isotérmico ). --Armando-Martin (talk) 11:09, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Templates

Navigation: {{Metalworking navbox|cast|form|mach|smith|tool|weld}}—put at the bottom of the article, just above the categories

WikiProject: {{WikiProject metalworking|class=???|importance=???}}—put on talk page

Metalworking Unassessed

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Metalworking, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Metalworking on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.MetalworkingWikipedia:WikiProject MetalworkingTemplate:WikiProject MetalworkingMetalworking articles
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Contributors

User	Current projects
¾-10	Article expansion. Referencing improvement. Industrial history. Watchlisting to revert vandalism. Making chips when I get the chance. Reading and thinking. — ¾-10 00:54, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Amit6 (talk · contribs)
Bryan Park	Will be travelling for the next two months, then I will start improving smithing articles. 12:15, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
Pocketpencil	Working on setting some editing time aside. --Pocketpencil (talk) 21:59, 8 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
SteveB67	Currently working on CAM, but looking to improve and create articles. SteveB67 (talk) 19:33, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
BusyBlacksmith	Working to make new metalworking articles. BusyBlacksmith (talk) 18:37, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ieuan Sant	My interest is machine shop practice, English language Uk based terminology I feel the lathe clasifcationn must be set up properly with a chronology of development from the wood lathe to the engine lathe or machine tool:lathe. The universal lathe is the centre lathe, all machine tool lathes came from that one lathe. This must be the starting point. There should also be a genral classifcation for the laymen and a technical designation for the specialist. Putting photographs of simple lathe oeprations os for the laymen imho. 13:06, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Related projects

Wikipedia:WikiProject Woodworking
Wikipedia:WikiProject Gemology and Jewelry
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Gemology and Jewelry/Jewelry - metallurgy and manufacturing relevant page

External links

Wikiproject Watchlist - WikiProject Metalworking