Talk:LASIK

Depression and other Psychological Effects of Lasik Complications

Any reason why this hasn't been included in this section? There has been a lot documented on this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zephyrtrainfan2010 (talk • contribs) 03:07, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/lasereyesurgery.html#cat57 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.159.230.129 (talk) 00:42, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

this reads like an infomercial

from the "patient dissatisfaction" page: For best results, Steven C. Schallhorn, an ophthalmologist who oversaw the US Navy's refractive surgery program and whose research partly influenced the Navy's decision to allow its aviators to get LASIK, recommends patients seek out what's called "all-laser Lasik" combined with "wavefront-guided" software.[31][32] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dmac621 (talk • contribs) 06:52, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Needed: Studies of subjects having refractive surgery in only one eye

Most people have Lasik on both eyes, but there are some that only have Lasik done on one of their two eyes. This because either the subject has an eye that is 20/20, or because the subject has a nearsighted eye that will work for mono-vision (aka. being able to read without reading glasses after 40). Patients would have the ability to compare comfort level and visual acuity differences between the virgin and operated eye. Campoftheamericas (talk) 16:13, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Requested addition

User Dkantis (talk), who is blocked for other reasons, has asked me by email for this to be inserted in the article:

On January 6th, 2011, ex FDA Chief of Medical Devices, Dr. Morris Waxler, who oversaw LASIK FDA APPROVAL submits FDA Petition to "Immediately Stop LASIK" surgery: http://lifeafterlasik.com/LASIK%20Morris%20FDA%20Petition%20Jan%206%202011.pdf .

User Dkantis signs himself "Founder www.LifeAfterLasik.com Hurt LASIK Patient Network", so it is clear that he has a COI here; however the proposed addition seems factual and sourced. I am therefore posting his suggestion here to let uninvolved editors decide, and will also post at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine. JohnCD (talk) 22:38, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

I saw this RFC at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine. I have no intention of getting too involved with this article, however, my impression is that where Waxler's opinion of LASIK has received coverage in reliable sources, it should be noted. Challenges of his specific opinion in reliable sources should also be noted (e.g. [1], [2]). With that stated, it does not appear that the media has yet reported on this petition and I do not think Wikipedia should be used to disseminate it until they do so. Location (talk) 23:58, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Agreed. That petition is clearly not an acceptable source for the addition. If and when it receives coverage in reliable sources, it can be added. Glaucus (talk) 02:03, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

All-Laser LASIK / Femto-LASIK – the situation today

Any surgery is a serious decision but if the procedure is elective, i.e. selected by personal choice and not supported financially by state or insurance company, then all of the facts should be accessible, clearly understandable, honest and free of marketing pressures.

Wikipedia is a trusted source for such information but, unfortunately, with the right effort and abilities it can be manipulated in order to lead enquiries continually back to just one or two sources.

This is not to say that there is anything intrinsically wrong with these sources, but it does deny fair access to the latest in information about “All-Laser LASIK” or “Femto-LASIK” – a procedure which has advanced greatly since it first became available.

So we would like (and this is placed by one of the companies mentioned below) to bring you up to date with regards which companies today offer product used in these procedures.

We urge you, in order that you may make a well-informed decision, to follow up on each of these companies. And remember, these are essentially only advertisements – your final and best source of input should be the Ophthalmologist who is going to treat you.

Company Name of Current Product

Intralase (AMO – Abbott) IFS

Schwind SmartTech

Technolas Perfect Vision Femtosecond Workstation 520F

Wavelight (Alcon) FS 200

Zeiss Visumax

Ziemer Femto LDV —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.193.165.210 (talk) 12:46, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

New inaccuracies found?

This comment from User:Benchoff copied from article text for consideration here:

The wordings of some parts of the above section on Laser remodeling might be considered toward lay terms to an extent and in need of greater quality considerations, for instance many sites such as the wikipedia site http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix-assisted_laser_desorption/ionization discuss the ionizing aspect of the radiation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser, indicating both measurable limits as the eyes are especially vulnerable in terms of radiation so elective works for artistic (reference artistic contact lenses) values are hardly preferred (noting the need for better organizing of studies), and also measurable opportunities for instance in theory if a cornea is too thin (perhaps due to previous LASIK surgery) then a Fresnel lenses method might be evaluated such as the Fresnel pattern cut under the flap with a counterpart clear material of certain other velocity (the idea being less about various cuts / techniques, and rather about one standard cut matching a reasonably standardized insert, so the cuts do not perform the vision corrections and rather the velocity so corrects and if needed can be upgraded with an insert of another suitable velocity in the future) ready for insertion and fitting the corneal grooves under the flap [this sentence was provided by Robert Benchoff of A Check Exact April 26, 2011 and has not been verified by certain other pertinent specific experts though to help those in need more comprehensive federal requests by Robert Benchoff were made previous years and again this year, for Doctors, patients, technicians, consultants, lawmakers, and so on]. Continuous improvement [sentence added April 27, 2011 by Robert Benchoff "Properly coordinating experts can best help the United States President before-the-fact"]: raising the bar: rather than making complex cuts to the eye the insert can be two [or more] Fresnel cut [or other cut if appropriate] properly bonded materials each of appropriate velocities with the insert having a smooth exterior [unless there is a need for positioner(s)], yet this solution does not contain more advanced proposals such as circa 1990s [pending further legislation] / VGC Foundation such as on NASA CREW cyborg [thought controlled bio-material manipulations], ortho-molecular level and other drugs including [foods, with] proven results from what is known as Bible foods including seeds, and more simple technologies though also conditionally useful such as welder mask optics automatically nearly instantly shielding people from light flashes [similar to this optic pattern for instance in electronics to how an isolation transformer functions, in part a predecessor to current television film layer technology that can be used: patent restrictions apply].

--Old Moonraker (talk) 12:06, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

corneal nerves

Why is the article not mentioning damage to corneal nerves?

See, for example, this science paper, "Mapping the entire human corneal nerve architecture" at http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2939211/

"It has been predicted that there are between 300,000 and 630,000 free nerve endings in the cornea."

Also, the article does go into detail in which part of the cornea, the flap and modification are made. The stroma is mentioned but epithelium should be mentioned too, I guess.