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References

I am sorry for the current referencing error, I cannot find a way to fix it and do require help fixing it. If you have any insight into the problem please let me know.--Krustev LeMont (talk) 19:47, 21 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Literature

The first source here will be quite useful, as it is from a 2000 monograph of North American species, and has descriptions of the varieties borealis and subreticulatus. I can see all three pages on Google Books preview, but if you can't let me know and I can take some scans from my personal copy: Alan Bessette; William C. Roody; Arleen Rainis Bessette (2000). North American boletes: a color guide to the fleshy pored mushrooms. Syracuse University Press. pp. 97–. ISBN 978-0-8156-0588-1.

Another description from a 2003 West Virginia field guide: Roody WC. (2003). Mushrooms of West Virginia and the Central Appalachians. Lexington, Kentucky: University Press of Kentucky. p. 316. ISBN 0-8131-9039-8.

I think this next source mostly repeats info from the first source (same author), but it also discusses a few similar species: Bessette AE, Roody WC, Bessette AR. (2007). Mushrooms of the Southeastern United States. Syracuse, New York: Syracuse University Press. p. 211. ISBN 978-0815631125.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)

Here's an older description here: William Chambers Coker; Alma Holland Beers (1 June 1974). The Boleti of North Carolina. Courier Dover Publications. p. 64. ISBN 978-0-486-20377-5.

Moar info, with tips on preparation for the table: David W. Fischer; Alan E. Bessette; R. McKenna Brown (1 January 1992). Edible Wild Mushrooms of North America: A Field-To-Kitchen Guide. University of Texas Press. pp. 98–. ISBN 978-0-292-72080-0. Retrieved 24 October 2011.

The following journal articles were found by searching the Web of Knowledge.

Title: A Study of Boletus Bicolor from Different Areas Using Fourier Transform Infrared Spectrometry

Author(s): Zhou Zai-jin; Liu Gang; Ren Xian-pei

Source: SPECTROSCOPY AND SPECTRAL ANALYSIS Volume: 30 Issue: 4 Pages: 911-914 DOI: 10.3964/j.issn.1000-0593(2010)04-0911-04 Published: APR 2010

Here, the authors used a cool technique, to differentiate population from different locations.

The next two sources can be used to source the mushroom's distribution in China (Yunnan Province) and Korea:

Title: Macrofungus resources and their utilization in Shangri-La County, Northwest in Yunnan Province

Author(s): Wang Lan; Song Ding-shan; Liang Jun-feng; et al.

Source: Journal of Plant Resources and Environment Volume: 15 Issue: 3 Pages: 79-80 Published: JUL 2006

Title: HOST SPECIFICITY AND DISTRIBUTION OF PUTATIVE ECTOMYCORRHIZAL FUNGI IN PURE STANDS OF TWELVE TREE SPECIES IN KOREA

Author(s): LEE K J; KIM Y S

Source: Korean Journal of Mycology Volume: 15 Issue: 1 Pages: 48-69 Published: 1987

B. bicolor has been shown in laboratory experiments to be able to form ectomycorrhizae with Pinus rigida ...

Title: Fungi that produce ectotrophic mycorrhizae of conifers.

Author(s): DOAK K. D.

Source: Phytopathology Volume: 24 Issue: 1 Pages: 7 p Published: 1934

... and Pinus virginiana:

Title: HYMENOMYCETOUS SPECIES FORMING MYCORRHIZAE WITH PINUS VIRGINIANA

Author(s): HACSKAYLO E

Source: MYCOLOGIA Volume: 47 Issue: 1 Pages: 145-147 DOI: 10.2307/3755764 Published: 1955

Rolf Singer described the mushroom in some detail (including microscopic characteristics) here on pages 53-54 (under the name Boletus rubellus subspecies bicolor): Singer, Rolf. (1974) ."The Boletoideae of Florida with Notes on Extralimital Species III" American Midland Naturalist 37 (1): 1-135 JSTOR 2421647

The species is also found in Nepal, where it is one of the most commonly used edible mushrooms:

Morten Christensen, Sanjeeb Bhattarai, Shiva Devkota and Helle O. Larsen. (2008). "Collection and Use of Wild Edible Fungi in Nepal" Economic Botany 62 (1): 12-23 doi:10.1007/s12231-007-9000-9

That should be enough for a very good start. Sasata (talk) 04:59, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thats a lot of resourses. I do greatly appreciate your help. Thanks.--Krustev LeMont (talk) 15:07, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It is time for the Fungus to rise up... there is more in life than vertebrates. No pressure Krustev LeMont, but I have high expectations.--JimmyButler (talk) 00:07, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sasata I need your help to get access to the China and Nepal journals, that is if you have access to them. Your help is much appreciated.--Krustev LeMont (talk) 01:55, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please send me an email, and I can reply with PDFs attached of what I can find. Sasata (talk) 02:57, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Any color, as long as it's red

The whole range give is shades of red. What does it mean then, to say that the normal color is red? --Ettrig (talk) 08:15, 31 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Good point, hope I fixed that little bit of unclear info. Point out anything else that catches your eye.--Krustev LeMont (talk) 01:16, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

places such as Missisippi and Florida These areas are too big to be called places. This expression is very difficult to generalize. What are the other "places".
The distribution to North America AND Nepal is very peculiar. Can we really be sure of this?
There is a lot of repetition. No statement should be more than once in the main article. (Some repeated in the lead.)
Different formulations of size used in different places. Choose one style.

--Ettrig (talk) 16:59, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hope I fixed those problems. Thanks for pointing them out.--Krustev LeMont (talk) 00:32, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Distribution requires more research. One of the sources confines itself to Nepal, the other to North America. The current formulations could most easily be interpreted as meaning that this fungus lives only in Nepal and eastern US. But it is most probable that it lives also in a wide area around Nepal and we no nothing about whether it is also in South America, Europe or Africa, or even Australia. --Ettrig (talk) 15:30, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The distribution has been difficult due to the articles on b. bicolor in china have all been in Chinese, and the Nepal ones extremely vague. Im would have to say that the species that live there are subspecies, but once again, the language barrier prevents me from getting to the articles.--Krustev LeMont (talk) 01:02, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The distribution of this species, apparently limited to eastern North America and Eastern Asia, is not unusual, and even has a name: the Grayan disjunction (I've been meaning to write an article about that sometime; see this link]). See Chorioactis for another example. I've looked through my sources and in Web of Science, but couldn't find much more about the range of this species than what is already given in this article. It is entirely possible, of course, that the Asian populations are just lookalikes to which this name has incorrectly been applied, but we won't know that until some molecular work is done, and for now, we have to accept the sources at face value. Sasata (talk) 15:52, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just noticed that the article mentions China in the lead, but not in the article body itself. The source for its occurrence in Yunnan, China, is listed in the section above and should also be referenced in the article. Sasata (talk) 15:56, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll fix that.--Krustev LeMont (talk) 22:04, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Boletus amygdalinus

The article Boletus amygdalinus was listed as GA today. Maybe it can provide some inspiration. --Ettrig (talk) 12:17, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That article has almost the same setup as mine, good sign. Thanks--Krustev LeMont (talk) 16:03, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also see Tylopilus alboater‎‎, currently at GAN, which has a similar distribution. Sasata (talk) 17:01, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Peer review

please add information about the varieties; this is available in the Bessette 2000 monograph mentioned above (and the source below). If you can't see the pages on Google Books preview, let me know and I will email you a scan of these pages. These varieties were named by mycologists Alexander H. Smith and Harry D. Thiers in their 1971 monograph The Boletes of Michigan, which is available online here.
There is no information about microscopic characteristics given yet. This information (in excruciating detail) can be found in the Smith and Thiers source above. Follow the format given in other bolete articles and you should be ok; I'll be watching, so don't be afraid to mess up the technical details :)
check out Wikipedia Commons for some other images that might be used; I don't think the current taxobox image is the strongest choice (how about this?)

See Commons:Category:Boletus bicolor.

That picture is a very good looking picture and does show the stem, spore, and cap colors wonderfully. I just do not like the perspective it is in, it makes it seem giant. Also ill get to adding that information soon, tomorrow or the day after most likely. Thanks for the help.--Krustev LeMont (talk) 23:26, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think you could check out the microscopic characteristics section for possible errors? The vocabulary was quite beyond my knowledge and mistakes in the wording are probably in there because of it. If you could look at that i would appreciate it.--Krustev LeMont (talk) 03:29, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The source I was getting the information from for boletus rubeus presented the information in a way that made it appear as boletus rubeus was not a species but wrongly identified boletus bicolor.--Krustev LeMont (talk) 18:59, 4 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]