Talk:Indian Institutes of Management

Yeditor This is not a forum for petty politics either, reservations are state policy and great political tool permeating all spheres of indian life , Caste exists ts reality , so just accept it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.113.192.12 (talk) 06:05, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

---Yeditor Reservation item has been deleted. This is not a forum to voice protests against reservations. Racists can go elsewhere

It will be awesome to use a world view perspective when editing this or any related articles.

Do we need this?

Instead of the para below, maybe this article should have a brief write up about fees and governing structure.

The IIMs were in the news during 2004-05 on account of a controversy that arose when Mr. Murli Manohar Joshi, Human Resources Development Minister of the Government of India asked the institutes to reduce the fees that they charge by more than 50%. The stated intention of the Minister was to enable the students from the less-privileged classes to be able to afford the fees of such premier institutes of higher learning. But since his attempts at reducing the fees of the institutes would have affected the autonomy enjoyed by these autonomous institutions, this action raised alarm bells amongst the academics as well as in the industry. There was wide-spread media coverage and discussions and a public interest litigation filed by Sandeep Parekh and two others, in the Supreme Court of India brought the issue to a standstill. Mr. Narayana Murthy was one of the many industry stalwarts who supported the IIMs in their public battle for survival against the onslaught. Eventually, post a change in government following general elections in the country, the newly appointed HRD Minister withdrew the controversial missive. The original fee structure is now being continued for subsequent batches.

doles 2005 July 6 16:43 (UTC)

too superlative/self-glorious

Some of the words here are too superlative and unnecesarily glorify the iims... Need lotsa editing. doles 15:59, 2005 August 16 (UTC) IIM Lucknow

Agreed, this article reads more like a university prospectus or advertisement than a wiki. It violates the most principle rule of wikipedia: Unbiased facts only!!! I recommend a revamp as a user said. 182.178.12.86 (talk) 20:27, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Recent edits on IIMK

I recently rolled back multiple edits that clearly glorified the IIM K section and in once case even attempted to delete information in IIM B section. These edits were contributed by anon users. This is a request to those anon users to please review Wikipedia policy on edits and also sign their names on their edits.

Please see Wikipedia:Policy_trifecta

doles 15:42, 2005 September 1 (UTC)

Today, there were more funny edits from someone who apparently loves IIMK too much at the expense of any love for other institutes. :-) doles 16:29, 2005 September 6 (UTC)

Who decides who the "elite" are?

India's elite institutes : IIMs ,IITs, AIIMS ... ok... NITs? ISI? who decides? why put it up in the first place.. --Keynes.john.maynard 20:49, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

The case for a new IIM in Pune needs to be pushed faster

The proposal for a new IIM in Mumbai or Pune has been gaining demand for a long time. Ideally the emerging commercial capital of Asia namely Mumbai needs an IIM in the city for obvious reasons. But the non avilability of sufficent real estate in Mumbai due to the densely populated chacaracter of the city, has made people to think that establishing an IIM in Pune makes more sense as it is the educational capital of Western India, and also a hub of several highly ranked educational institutions and research institutions. The proposal to establish an IIM in Maharastra in Pune needs to pushed faster and requiste steps taken to establish an IIM in Pune needs to be pushed to its logical and fruitful conclusion.

IIM Delhi

Can someone also add about IIM delhi? --seXie^(t0lk) 19:21, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

This article is about Indian Institute of Management, not Indian Institute of Metals. If you were looking for the IIT, that article is located at IIT Delhi. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 19:33, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Management of Poverty or Poverty of Management?

This Indian Institutes are Management of Poverty or Poverty of Management? vkvora 07:48, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Revamping the article

I am considering redesigning the entire article, specially in line with the article on IITs, since both give overview of institutions established with similar basic objective. LeaveSleaves (talk) 06:38, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Course Fee

I think it is good if we also add a paragraph on present course fee for various IIM's. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.241.123.2 (talk) 06:40, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

Controversial claims about reserved category students

There are claims that students getting admitted in reserved category scrape through and get placements only because of reservation policy of PSUs. This is a total misrepresentation. IF there are any studies which proved this, then please provide citations. Otherwise this material will be removed or rewritten. Shekure (talk) 12:59, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Repetitive terms; peacockery and stuff...

Hi there. I suggest that instead of mentioning even a line about the individual institutions, we simply provide a link to the main article of the individual institutions. This will help avoid repetitive information, peacock stuff being loaded, self promotional statements purely based on primary sources etc. Therefore, this article will simply have a lede with a summary paragraph about what was the philosophy behind IIMs being set up; and then links to all other individual institutions and nothing else. This way, we wouldn't have to keep checking for uncited claims that are being repeated across articles. If no one has issues, I shall go ahead and do this in a day or two. Wifione _....... ^{Leave a message} 06:07, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

I don't necessarily agree. I think that since we are only talking about a rather small group of institutes, no harm is done by a few well sourced lines about the institute's establishment, size and specific features. This is how it's done (not necessarily very well) in Indian Institutes of Technology and IIIT. I agree the current state is overdoing it. I also agree that if IIMs were to become 30 institutes like National Institutes of Technology it might be a bit too much. What the article may need is a summary table like Indian Institutes of Technology and National Institutes of Technology have. --Muhandes (talk) 12:54, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

• Good analysis. Accepted. Wifione _....... ^{Leave a message} 02:28, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

I created a summary table. The sections should now be trimmed to one or two sentences each. --Muhandes (talk) 09:30, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

I started working on trimming, I hope you have time to continue it, cause right now I don't. --Muhandes (talk) 15:38, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I shall. But later after I get through the admin work. Thanks. Wifione _....... ^{Leave a message} 08:13, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

 Done --Muhandes (talk) 13:16, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Correction needed

Correction needed: The article talks about the contract for the Computer Based Test being handed to Prometric, which is then identified as the company that conducts the GMAT. That is false. Neither Prometric nor its parent company Education Testing Services (ETS) conduct the GMAT. The GMAT is conducted by the Graduate Management Aptitude Council (GMAC), a non-profit grouping of institutions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.39.202.254 (talk) 04:47, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. I removed that claim. --Muhandes (talk) 08:03, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Regarding Eigth IIM

I think we can discuss the eighth IIM issue here. According all verifiable sources, IIM Ranchi is the eighth IIM but there are certain wikipedia users who keep on changing the edits to imply that IIM Rohtak is the eighth IIM. Please show a verifiable source, not your own deductive prowess, which says that IIM Rohtak is the eighth IIM.Wikyreaper (talk) 16:43, 28 December 2011 (UTC)wikyreaper

The links given in the article show that the date of inauguration of IIM Rohtak is June 30, 2010; and that of IIM Ranchi is July 6, 2010. Thus, IIM Ranchi seems to have been inaugurated and started operations a week after IIM Rohtak. Ergo, IIM Rohtak should be the 8th IIM (after C, A, B, L, K, I and S) and IIM Ranchi the 9th. Is there anything wrong in this? Aurorion (talk) 19:41, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Well the wikipedia guidelines say that " The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth—whether readers can check that material in Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether editors think it is true". I think there are plenty of respectable news outlet which have called IIM Ranchi the eighth IIM but I have not found any mention of IIM Rohtak being the eight IIM. The inauguration date criteria seems to be the original research part, which may be true or may be false, but is not the point of contention here.