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Oral tradition vs. written history

This article should be immune to deletion. Family and Clan names are not handled in the same way other histories. They are a special case. In this instant, and other articles of similar nature it is up to the HUMAN element of Wikipedia to overcome the rules of Wikipedia and apply human values to a subject that cannot be measured by a dead, unthinking computer, rule book or committee that "just follows the rules"

Need for Citation

I agree that oral tradition is important but there are published references that could and should be included here. This is found in all academic texts, including those that

The Irish family name Kennedy should have an article on wikipedia and I would ask that it please not be deleted but instead modified. For example, where possible, the Four Masters could be cited since there are books containing information by them. The coat of arms can surely also be referenced. It is highly likely that for a period of time a sept of the Kennedys were a form of royalty and even if they were Gaelic Lords and not Kings, they are still part of a clan that was royal and thus such a link should be maintained.

But again I stress that citations should be included as much as possible to improve this article. Afterall there are plenty of living Kennedys who would appreciate that their real history is recorded here. Afterall there are famous examples of Kennedys already on here who either lived in Ireland or were descended from those Irish Kennedy's who settled elsewhere. I am happy to helo to improve this article if others can assist, I do not always have a lot of spare time. (ConsulHibernia (talk) 23:55, 8 February 2012 (UTC))[reply]