Talk:Snowtown, South Australia

Added to intro

I added mention of the Snowtown murders to the intro, as it was a glaring omission. Nobody in Australia knows anything about Snowtown other than the fact that some bodies were found in a bank vault there once. It'd be like having an article about Pisa without mentioning the leaning tower in the intro, Oxford without mentioning the university, or Jonestown without mentioning the massacre. 59.167.126.79 (talk) 14:05, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Clean-up

I have tagged this page as requiring a clean-up. As it is, I hesitate to call it an encylopædic article. It has the foundations of one, and could potentially be a very good one, but presently it is of dubious factuality and riddled with poor grammar.--Cyberjunkie 07:39, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

What facts are you doubting - they all seem well sourced to me. Feel free to correct and dodgy grammar

Tag removed Brookie 09:04, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Why have you removed the tag again? It specifically stated that it not be removed until the article had been significantly improved. The purpose of the notice is to direct experienced copy-editing Wikipedians to the page, so that they may assist. The facts that are of concern are those related to the Snowtown murders. It is not that I doubt the essence of what they state, but rather their reliability and accuracy. Again, Wikipedia is an encyclopædia, and the articles published in it must be factual. Now, I'm aware that this might sound awfully pedantic, pretentious even, but I am not one to add these notices wily-nily. This article is particularly concerning because of the significant events surrounding it. I will again insert the notice, and would appreciate if you would leave it be - for the time being at least.--Cyberjunkie 09:36, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I'd suggest moving the information about the "Snowtown murders" into a separate article, and just reference it from here. They really aren't part of the fabric of Snowtown, as they occurred at other places such as Salisbury and Smithfield. Only the remains were dumped at Snowtown. Also, the article should move back to Snowtown, South Australia, with a redirect (later perhaps disambiguation page) at Snowtown. --ScottDavis 13:22, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I have taken out nearly all of the murders section and created a new page with the data removed. Can we now remove the clean up tag without all falling out? I'll look into moving the location as suggested Done Brookie 15:41, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I'm OK now—but it needs to be added to the new page. I'll let Cyberjunkie remove the tag if he agrees. Perhaps User:Lisathurston will come back to add some more local info. --ScottDavis 01:14, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

No response to my post to Cyberjunkie's talk page - so am assuming he's now happy. Clean up therefore removed (head down!) Brookie 09:24, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Awesome updates - I was a newbie when I tried to start this and looks like I missed it being completed! Not sure there's much more I can add. Snowtown is a rather small place in the bigger schemes of things. --Lisa 04:34, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

You can probably improve the history, The Town Today, and Things to see sections. In particular, you could fix/correct the name and number of the highway past the town. The article claims it to be both Highway 1, and A87 Stuart Highway. I thought it might actually be either Princes Highway or Port Wakefield Road. You might be able to fix either of those articles if they're wrong, too. Feel free to write intro to other towns in South Australia. I don't see one for Glengowrie, either. --ScottDavis 06:05, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Sorry that I did not respond to your message Brookie. Occasionally I just don't, and I can't really explain why - temporary apathy perhaps? Anyways, it does not mean I have lost interest with this article. I'm not going to re-tag it, because the article has improved - or rather, the problem has shifted to a separate article. But what I am rather perplexed about is why on earth you and Susvolans have moved the article to different names. As far as I can ascertain, Susvolans moved the article to Snowtown, and you then, recognising this was wrong, moved it to Snowtown - South Australia. Am I right in assuming that you had meant to move it back to its original (and correct) name, Snowtown, South Australia, but made a mistake? I hope this was the case, because otherwise, I'll remain perplexed. --Cyberjunkie 11:31, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the post - someone had moved Snowtown, South Australia back to just Snowtown nad the edited the history page so that it couldn't then be reversed - presumably to make his move stick - this was an attempt to bring some sense back to it! Not ideal though. Best regards Brookie:A glow in the dark 07:09, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Naming convention?

Why is this article not at Snowtown, South Australia in accordance with the agreed naming convention for Australian towns. I also don't understand why the Snowtown, South Australia is blank at the moment and why the redirect back to this article was removed?--AYArktos 23:54, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

The article used to be there, and has been moved to Snowtown, Snowtown - South Australia and back to Snowtown. At present, because the page at Snowtown, South Australia has some history associated with it, we need an administrator to put this page back where it belongs. --ScottDavis 04:05, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

I put a request at the administrators notce board for the move back to Snowtown, South Australia, but Violetriga moved it only to here. We might need to request another administrator.--Cyberjunkie 04:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Cyberjunkie - can you do this - a request from me might be mis-interpreted! Personally I think we should move it back to Snowtown, South Australia - as this is a lot clearer. Brookie:The grass on the hill 06:55, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

I think everybody agrees that the name must be Snowtown, South Australia. We're all just waiting for the move to be done, because we lowly "sign-in" users don't have administrator privileges. Although ScottDavis has made a formal request, I will ask an administrator to see if I can't get it done quicker.--Cyberjunkie 14:15, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

I've speedied the move considering that I was involved previously and this is a clear cut naming convention. violet/riga (t) 21:51, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Explanation of recent removal

Removed the following:

The Stanley Herald newspaper (Snowtown) 16 Jan 1913 reported [about William Henry Hall] that "Snowtown is placed on the map of South Australia and leaving Blyth with a wagon of timber, iron, &c. Mr. W H Hall trekked to the new town, and established his claim as the pioneer of Snowtown by running up the first structure (iron) on the town site. An amusing story is told of this same iron room. A traveler from the Hummocks station had ridden across the deserted town area bound for Koolunga. When returning at night a strange and new light gleamed in the darkness, and the traveler was mystified, and prepared to admit that he had lost the track. He made enquiries of Mr. Hall, and was astonished that the room should have grown during his absence from the station. That was Snowtown in 1878".

Can't see why this is notable to be included. Can it be rejigged for inclusion? Can we have some kind of citation for this? Donama (talk) 00:08, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

1999 murders?

Nobody from the Snowtown murders was killed in 1999, and i think only one was actually from Snowtown. This should be changed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.176.103.191 (talk) 13:19, 27 March 2011 (UTC)