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Yo Chealer, regarding your proposed deletion of Anarcho-capitalism and minarchism: PROD is only to be used for uncontroversial deletions that do not meet the speedy criteria. It's a safe bet that very few political articles will be uncontroversial deletions. Furthermore, not only does the article meet the general notability guideline, it asserts as such in the very article. This article would very likely survive an AfD. As suich, it was a very poorly considered choice to propose it for deletion, and I urge you to be a little more careful and if possible try and research topics before proposing them for deletion in future. Sincerely, the skomorokh 20:32, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I do think this deletion is uncontroversial. Of course, this doesn't mean that no one in the world would oppose the deletion. The article doesn't meet the general notability guideline...we'll see if it survives its AfD. --Chealer (talk) 03:44, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Linux for PlayStation 2 clarification?

You put up a tag on the Linux for PlayStation 2 article a request for clarification. I read the sentence up to where you placed the tag and was unable to determine what needed clarifying. Could you visit the article's talk page and explain what is confusing or unclear for you? Thank you. --TreyGeek (talk) 19:59, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done. I was wondering what PS2 Linux meant. --Chealer (talk) 07:26, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You again put 'clarification' tags on the Linux for PlayStation 2 article. You put two tags on the phrase "PS2 Linux" however, there are many references to that phrase. The entire article addresses "PS2 Linux" and "Linux for PlayStation2." So again, I am unsure what is confusing or unclear. --TreyGeek (talk) 05:15, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but the article doesn't define "PS2 Linux".--Chealer (talk) 08:15, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed it. Though you could have probably made the same edit and the issue would have been resolved. --TreyGeek (talk) 16:33, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

C2Net notability

Hi Chealer. I see you marked C2Net as not notable in May 2008. C2Net played an early history in the first SSL-enabled webservers. SSLeay became OpenSSL. So I think the company is notable from a historical perspective. You deleted some links that established notability as well. Can you clarify? Note: I'm not the author of the article and have never been associated with C2Net, just remember them from the mid-1990's.

Sidfilter (talk) 18:17, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Sidfilter. First, I didn't mark C2Net as not notable, I only marked it as being possibly not notable. The article doesn't give a clear picture of what was the status of SSL-enabled webservers at the time Stronghold was released. I may be "wrong" and C2Net may be notable. Regarding the links, I'm not sure which ones you're thinking about. --Chealer (talk) 19:51, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Feather Linux

This page was deleted after you PRODded it a while back, but has now been restored after a request at today's DRV. You can AFD it if you wish. Stifle (talk) 10:41, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I went for the AfD. --Chealer (talk) 03:48, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gentoo ARM/MIPS citation needed

Regarding http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_Linux_distributions&diff=279308061&oldid=278952237 . Why did you add the citation needed stuff? The links provided are clear enough, IMHO.

Thanks --Armin76 (talk) 16:59, 24 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm looking for an actual citation that says that MIPS and/or ARM are supported by Gentoo Linux. The current links show that there was work for getting Gentoo on MIPS on ARM, but they don't tell the status of the projects. --Chealer (talk) 21:49, 24 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

m68k support

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_Linux_distributions&diff=prev&oldid=275844378 <- why did you remove m68k? Armin76 (talk) 14:39, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

None of the distributions listed was known for supporting m68k. The real reason is that nobody uses m68k anymore these days.--Chealer (talk) 21:51, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you're wrong. Have a look at http://www.debian.org/ports/m68k/ Armin76 (talk) 13:09, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm actually right. Anyway, I reported the issue with this page in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=532810. --Chealer (talk) 20:48, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Iran 655

Hey Chealer,

I broke the reference because the reference doesn't meet Wikipedia Reliable sources guidelines [1]. (It goes back to a thesis "The Iran-Iraq war: the politics of aggression" By Farhang Rajaee from the university of Tehran that reads like a political tract. It's scholarship that isn't peer reviewed from a well-regarded academic press and has no scholarly citations.

Thanks for letting me know though, the whole page needs work actually and I can't seem to find the time. ````V7-sport —Preceding unsigned comment added by V7-sport (talk • contribs) 03:01, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

EduLinux

I deprodded as it has quite a bit of news coverage. Fr Wikipedia has a slightly longer stub, so I'm going to use that and the news coverage to expand the article. Fences&Windows 23:32, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of PROD from Trustix

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Thanks

Hi there, thanks for the comment, I appreciate it. I should indeed consolidate my edits into fewer but sizeable ones, but I've been a bit lazy regarding them, especially when edits are necessary between subsections! Nevertheless, I'll try to make the edits more meaningful. Thanks again. :) --CoolingGibbon (talk) 10:15, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. By the way, can DistroWatch be cited? I'd like to move Trustix and EnGarde back to their respective subsections, but want to clarify it first.

DistroWatch can be cited, though that doesn't mean DistroWatch is always a sufficient source. I don't consider its reliability to be great. --Chealer (talk) 16:22, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of PROD from Asynchronous conferencing

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SYS Linux Distribution

The SYS distro exists already some years, without big changes (besides of updates). All Linuxdistros have their short wiki page. Like on them, on the page for SYS was tried to explain within an article of 1-2 print pages, the most important characteristics of the distro - specially what distinguishes this distro from other distros in a positive sense, as required from the wiki politics and discused with or even suggested by earlier reviewers of the wiki page.

Thus, to my opinion, it shouldn't changed too much, and not removed important characteristics.

Last time, was removed f.ex. these characteristics:

1) * Fully-automated installation; 10–30 minutes typically, quick and simple for new users.^{[citation needed]}

2) * Reliable, fast mirrors.^{[citation needed]}

3) * A non-commercial , free distro, independent of commercial or other short-term politics^{[citation needed]}

An important source is the program's project page at Softpedia and at Linuxquestions.org . There are given extended informations. They were readed by thousands of persons, and also made thousands of downloads (see p.ex. the download counter at softpedia), and when there would be wrong descriptions about the distro, then users would have left a comment / reclamation or bad votation.

The wiki page contains only a very compacted explanation of these details.

To 1: It's one of the most important characteristics and origin of the SYS distro, for make it most easy for beginners, that the installation is full AUTOMATICALLY. This is short explained, with a few words (and this proportionally / reasonably short) in the wiki page, and more detailed in the sources just explained. How I could explain this important and unique characteristics of the distro more short ???? Also, interested people can simply try it out, download the install .iso from the quoted mirrors and install it from a DVD or USB key.

To 3: There are some comercial and many no-comercial distros, so that in the wiki page, according to the wiki guides how to obtain it, it's given the information that it's gratis (and downloadable from the mirrors). Also - what's important for the reliability over long time - is given theinformation that SYS will not dependon short-term profit orprofit-deception. Also this is more detailed explained in the quoted sources. And can be verified imediately, clicking the link to themirrors, where everything is gratis downloadable and notpresent any comercial or limited version.

To 2: The most important mirrors are given in he wikipage itself. One can see directly, that this are mirrors kept at university institutes, which keep a certain standard and (at least some of them) check out the distros stocked there. This is an opposite to distros which are stocked only on 1 or 2 mirrors (like, f.ex: paldo, goblinx -which seems to have no working mirror anymore, and many other distros). There were even canceled some SYS mirrors which stopped to work good.

University mirrors are not always reliable. Feel free to restore these claims if you can accompany them with reliable references.

To my opinion, can be improved the english of the article, but I think the contens is already so short that almost nothing can be make shorter without to miss any 'minimum contens' rule of wiki for linux distros. It should be observed that similar informations give also the other distros.

Information on mirrors is rare on Wikipedia. It's granted that a project notable enough to be covered in an encyclopedia should have a reliable and fast mirrors network. --Chealer (talk) 01:13, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also should be observed, that SYS is not one of these minimum distros; in opposite it's a big distro with many thousands of own packages (and probeably one of the fastest to compile and provide new linux kernel .tgz packages -- whilst a big part of other distros nor provide own kernel packages at all, but take them from others like Debian, RedHat etc). Also, SYS brings already appr. 18 GB programs (lzma-highly-compacted) on the install DVD what installs this huge system between 10 to 40 min. Therefore, I think the wiki page is reasonable short about all relevantaspects of the distro.

There is a 'war' between distrowatch anda very few numbers of other info pages, which don't want to report about SYS. In revange, in SYS in /etc/host are blocked these web pages, and the user is conducted to SYS-friendly concurrence of them. Also, for users in France, the installation stops, because of the open-source-enemy french law (shall theyspend their money to M$ !!). This are also special characteristis mentioned only very abreviated in the SYS wiki page.

wl

RHEL

Hi there. Any ideas on the Distrowatch concerns I raised? Talk:Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux_derivatives#Distro_popularity--Rfsmit (talk) 20:40, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Quantum Entanglement

Hi. You added a "clarification needed" tag in the Quantum entanglement article, but was not specific enough for me to understand what you didn't understood. Could you please clarify what does need clarification? Cheers. Tercer (talk) 19:20, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I asked to clarify why Alice's measurement would result in an unpredictable series of measurements that will tend to a 50% probability of her half-coin being "heads" or "tails". --Chealer (talk) 20:00, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, that's just an assumption of the experiment, that they will assign the half-coins to each other with 50% probability. Actually, that's not important. Any non-zero (or non-one) probability will do. The point of the half-coin story is the correlation: Alice has heads, Bob has tails. I've rewrote that part, hope it's better now. Tercer (talk) 20:50, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you but I don't feel significantly closer to understanding the example. I don't see how putting the half-coin in an envelope then getting it out changes anything. It says "Alice then measures her half-coin, by opening her envelopes." Is "envelopes" supposed to be singular? My partial understanding wants Alive to have one envelope for her only half-coin, and Bob to have one envelope for his. --Chealer (talk) 21:34, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that was a typo. The point of the envelope is to emphasize that the state of the half-coin is unknown, i.e., can be described only by a probability, until Alice opens it and check what is inside. This simulates the particles: they do not have a definite spin in the up-down direction, and can only be described by a probability of turning up or down when measured.

What I am trying to do is to give a concrete mechanism through which Alice will get a random bit which is anti-correlated with Bob's. A server who generates random bits and sends them to Alice, while sending the negation of these bits to Bob would have the same effect. Tercer (talk) 22:26, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I think I understood now. --Chealer (talk) 23:02, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relativism

Last week you placed on my talkpage an ambiguously worded request concerning the terms relativist and relativistic. I duly replied to that request *on my talkpage* and as you did not reply at all I deleted it all later. Please do not ask people things on their talkpage and then just not be bothered to go back there and see what they said by way of reply. Doing so seems rather rude and cavalier. If you check my talkpage history you will see that I did not know initially what your point was but replied anyway. However, I later realised what you were driving at and changed the wording on the relativism article from relativist to relativistic. Hope this clarifies. many thanks Peter morrell 19:43, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I was not "just not bothered" to go back to your page, I just hadn't done it so far. I do have tons of things to do, and even if I had known as soon as you replied, I cannot guarantee to reply in 24 hours. I did not even receive anything when you replied. Last time I checked there was no way to do so, but now perhaps putting a watch on the page and removing it when you get a reply would be a fairly efficient way to proceed?

Your change does clarify, thank you. --Chealer (talk) 20:24, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I just noticed this at the end of the notification mail i received when you created this Relativism section: "This email notification feature was enabled on English Wikipedia in May 2011". So yeah, that's a welcome new feature and I'll be sure to try the "workflow" I described above. --Chealer (talk) 20:28, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, wait, that just works for your own user talk page. So I'm afraid you should keep not expecting a reply in 24 hours - at all (unless you reply on my own page). --Chealer (talk) 20:31, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK thanks, I'm sorry I did expect a reply on my talkpage but wiki is confusing about this cuz some folks always post and reply on both and others just leave it to pot luck. I wasn't over-concerned about a *quick reply* per se, but was just initially baffled by what you actually wanted cuz I thought the issue was more about the berlin quote and not the wording I had used...so let's leave it if that's OK and thanks for clarifying and I hope my tweek to the article solves the original problem. cheers Peter morrell 20:50, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I completely agree that Wikipedia needs to do better for discussions. I did not and still do not realize that my request was ambiguous, but I'm sorry if that's the case. Your edit absolutely solves the original problem. --Chealer (talk) 20:54, 17 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The confusion arises from the term relativist which means the same as relativistic. The noun and adjective mean the same thing and are used interchangeably over here. Berlin was a relativist and so his position is that of a relativist. Therefore the phrase "adopted a relativist position," which you do not like and prefer "adopted a relativistic position." I would argue the latter is confusing while the former is much clearer. To say it was a relativist position means he adopted the position of a relativist, which he was. To say it was relativistic is less clear because it kind of implies his position was relativistic and so possibly variable and inconstant. It wasn't either of those things; he seems always to have been a relativist. Does this clarify why your comment was confusing to me? Anyway, I hope this tangled matter is now closed! thanks for your help. Peter morrell 06:09, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hum. First, I have nothing against the adjective "relativist" if it exists. I just saw that it is not recorded in Wiktionary and only appeared once in the article, so I thought its usage may have been an error. Disclaimer: I am not a native English speaker. If both exists, I would tend to think that "relativistic" would be less ambiguous as it cannot be a noun, only an adjective. Now, I somewhat understand the ambiguity you saw, but I fail to see why the same ambiguity wouldn't exist with "relativist" (considering it would mean the same as "relativistic"). Thanks --Chealer (talk) 06:26, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Compose key

Concerning Compose key ... you don't write number of an Unicode character, but a characters themselves. Take a look for example at /usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose (or wherever it is in your distribution). When you write

<Compose>tm

you get ™

Ceplm (talk) 17:25, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Matej. FWIW, you had not forgotten me, it's just that we discussed the matter via IRC, over 4 years ago :-) I looked at the file though, and it's amazing how many sequences there are! --Chealer (talk) 06:42, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Réponse

Philipe
Veuillez voir User talk:Peter Horn#Link from Metrication in Canada Peter Horn User talk 21:24, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dual calibrated speedometers

Hi Philippe
I am inviting your input at Talk:Metrication#Dual calibrated speedometers. Peter Horn User talk 21:46, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but unfortunately, learning to drive is still on my TODO list :-S --Chealer (talk) 22:10, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Have "fun". Peter Horn User talk 23:12, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Stanislav Petrov

Hi, You have been involved in editing the article about Stanislav Petrov in the past. Following a discussion about splitting biographical data about the man involved from the article of the incident, I have been bold and made a cut at the changes required however I wanted to invite you to have a look at my edits on Stanislav Petrov and 1983 Soviet nuclear false alarm incident and make any changes you think are required. Thanks! --Deadly∀ssassin 23:34, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi DeadlyAssassin. It is good in one way to have 2 articles, but this also causes a fair amount of duplication. The topics are extremely tied. The man clearly wouldn't have an article without the incident. Anyway, I'm not sure what's best. I do note that the internal and external links on Stanislav Petrov are largely about the incident and not personal.

Anyway, I looked at the articles. These are much better than what they used to be. There are still several problems with references and facts, but I flagged all those I saw. It's amazing that our sources about this topic are still so few and low-quality. I hope the articles continue to improve. Thanks for your work. --Chealer (talk) 20:21, 31 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Xara Xtreme LX

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HTML5

Sorry, that part was not supposed to be changed on my edit. Just fixed it (with an IP). Gallaecio (talk) 07:36, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks. I made another edit which I hope fixes the problem for good. --Chealer (talk) 07:59, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

spotchecking

Hello, do you have experience in source spotchecking? LittleJerry (talk) 21:37, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi LittleJerry, I never heard about spotchecking, so I was going to say no, but after looking up what spotchecking is, I guess I did that quite a bit. However, I never made the effort of verifying content attributed to a source which is not accessible online. I am curious to know why you're asking. --Chealer (talk) 23:16, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I need someone to spotcheck the giraffe article. It failed FA status due to some close paraphasing of the sources. I recently went back and re-pharphased the sources I have available. LittleJerry (talk) 00:01, 4 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, sorry, but I don't have the time to do this. --Chealer (talk) 16:50, 4 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dispute

Please see the advice regarding 3RR which I left at User talk:Machine Elf 1735#Your complaint at the 3RR noticeboard. If you were to offer at WP:AN3 to stop reverting and follow dispute resolution that may be a good way to avoid sanctions. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 05:55, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ed, I am not sure I understand who you [intended to] address, but I am the reporter. The one reported is User:Machine Elf 1735. In any case, I have no intention of reverting anymore, I am hoping other people will intervene now that administrators were informed. Thanks --Chealer (talk) 07:30, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My mistake, you're the reporter in the 3RR case and Machine Elf is the one reported. I'm still concerned about the behavior of both parties. An edit war that starts in one place and then spreads out to essay or guideline pages (that bear on the dispute) is an event that we have seen before, and it's highly unrecommended. If you still have concerns about Materialism and Naturalism (philosophy) please use RfCs or find some other way to bring in outsiders. I am planning to close the 3RR case with warnings to both parties if the dispute has actually stopped. EdJohnston (talk) 14:09, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I do still have concerns about Materialism, Naturalism (philosophy), and in fact, Wikipedia:Revert only when necessary too now. Machine Elf 1735's edit summaries in his latest reverts to these articles were:

These reversions are explained based on an assumption of bad faith in the reverted changes, rather than justified for their own merit. If the problem is an assumption of bad faith, I do not think any amount of comments will address that, unless RfCs include requests for comments on intentions... This may not apply to the fourth reversion, whose edit summary I find unintelligible. All of these edits were done after the contributor was pointed to Wikipedia:Civility.

In all this, the contributor went to a Talk page once, but only to rehash the accusation of abuse.

To summarize, the assumption of bad faith mixed with the feeling of ownership prevents change. Resolving any of these issues without civility doesn't look promising. Considering that the contributor is aware of the 3RR, has already been pointed to Wikipedia:Civility and to Wikipedia:Revert only when necessary, I do not think a warning is necessary or would help a lot. However, if you believe that will suffice, I would appreciate if you could monitor the situation's evolution. Thank you --Chealer (talk) 18:21, 9 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Continued warring at Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing

The page at WP:Close paraphrasing is one of those which was recently cited at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Machine Elf 1735 reported by User:Chealer (Result: Both warned). You have continued to revert to your preferred version of Close paraphrasing, apparently in the effort to show that Machine Elf was wrong in that a dispute that started at two philosophy articles. One of your reverts was here on 11 March, and you have edited the page seven times altogether since March 1. If you continue to revert Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing before getting a consensus on the talk page, you may be blocked for edit warring. EdJohnston (talk) 20:51, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ed, I unfortunately could not revert to my preferred version of Close paraphrasing, due to lack of consensus. As the edit summary mentions, the new version is suboptimal. It was only adopted to keep consensus (see the discussion on the Talk page for more information). That edit was not a revert.

Thanks anyway --Chealer (talk) 21:40, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A consensus is something which enjoys general support. The fact that your change was undone by Moonriddengirl suggests that you did not succeed in 'keeping consensus' with your change. I actually could not find anyone on the talk page who agrees with you. If you will consider creating an RFC, that is one way to clarify what does or does not have consensus. EdJohnston (talk) 22:29, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that was a surprise, but "consensus" is not static, it can change at any time. Regarding the RFC, Moonriddengirl just did that. Thanks anyway --Chealer (talk) 22:35, 11 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you

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