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Added 'Controversy' Section

Being a fan of the show and watching it on Hulu, I can not help to notice the reaction from the public about its stereotyping of African Americans. A quick Google search will reveal significant outrage and debate about the shows content and its supposed proliferation of stereotypes to cater to a "white audience". Although I do not agree that the show is inherently racist, I believe that there is enough buzz out there about the show that the controversy must be addressed on this page. I implore you not to delete this section, but to add and refine it as you see fit. I have done my best to present the topic neutrally, yet in the interest of being encyclopedic, most of my references are from blogs.

70.171.34.28 (talk) 20:17, 27 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but it has been removed as we cannot use blogs as references. This is especially important when adding "Controversy" sections, which tend to become magnets for any dislike a person may have about a particular series. Your efforts are certainly appreciated, however, and if you can find reliable sources (community leaders, mainstream press, and so on) that present viewpoints critical of the series, that would be go along way towards making the material fit under Wikipedia's requirements. Please feel free to ask if you have further questions about this. --Ckatz^chat_spy 20:25, 27 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fine, but I refer you to this article in the WSJ: [[1]]. I quote the article: "... as it matures, Wikipedia, one of the world's largest crowdsourcing initiatives, is becoming less freewheeling and more like the organizations it set out to replace. Today, its rules are spelled out across hundreds of Web pages. Increasingly, newcomers who try to edit are informed that they have unwittingly broken a rule -- and find their edits deleted, according to a study by researchers at Xerox Corp." Such rigid hierarchy and posturing is contributing towards Wikipedia's downfall. Might I also remark that the blogosphere is probably a more reliable source than the mainstream press, etc, because it is unfiltered, statistical news; circumventing the press and community leaders are the very raison d'etre of Wikipedia. 70.171.34.28 (talk) 22:17, 27 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How about just a "Reception" section? I'm sure that there are some official news outlets out there that give a review of the show, and possibly mention the racism issues. But in leiu of news outlets, I think blogs would be acceptable. Most mainstream repoters aren't die-hard fans of Family Guy, or even animation in general. So, I'm all for citing well thought-out, intelligent blogs on this page. I do agree, however, that allowing the citation of blogs would open the floodgates for vandals. Does Wikipedia explicitly forbid it? 121.208.146.223 (talk) 06:03, 18 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is a guideline outlining what Wikipedia considers a reliable source. The "self-published" section covers blogs, which are largely considered unacceptable as sources, except for a few narrow exceptions. Leithp 11:36, 9 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Timeline continuity problem

Timeline continuity prob: Quahog 1982 (Zapped), Stoolbend 1984

How can Cleveland be a young college student in Quahog when Peter makes that 'Zapped' reference to Lois in 1982, but then be a high school student in Stoolbend to laugh at that geek w/ the computer in 1984 ("Field Of Streams" 01/03/2010)??? Macshill (talk) 04:48, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's a fictional cartoon. They don't really make any effort to maintain 'continuity'. It's all done for the humor! DP76764 (Talk) 05:46, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The "humor" in this case being the show's creators' mocking disrespect of their audience, manifest in their lazy writing and editing. Analogdrift (talk) 20:16, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ratings?

Does anyone have ratings information? I watched only the first two episodes, which were lousy. Family Guy has been lousy recently too. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.72.97.177 (talk) 18:17, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Check individual episode pages. CTJF83 chat 18:26, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comedy Central

Does anyone have ANY PROOF that Comedy Central is gonna air The Cleveland Show on October 7th at 10? The "citation" is to the CC press release page. I have searched through their press releases, all the way back to October, and I can't find ONE talking about them acquiring TCS. Unless we can find definitive proof, the reference needs to be taken down. With all due respect, BrianGriffin-FG (talk) 16:38, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Removed CTJF83 pride 17:16, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Crossovers with Family Guy Section

Seems like it's time to trim (or hack) this section; it's turning into an exhaustive list of every single appearance of the FG characters. Seems like it should also be converted to a prose format. Any takers? DP76764 (Talk) 03:52, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

100% Agree...I'd work on it now, but have to sleep. If it isn't done later on Monday, I'll work on it. CTJF83 chat 03:54, 4 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Copied and Pasted

I believe these words from one of the opening paragraphs were copied and pasted from a Seth MacFarlane interview, but no credit was given: "Cleveland has had enough of Quahog – he realizes that he wants his own friends, his own sidekicks, his own stories. So he sets out to California to make it in a way that we'll have to keep a secret until the show starts, and then he ends up somewhere else, which we'll also keep a secret until the show starts. But he basically goes home – he goes to his hometown in Virginia and rekindles an old high school flame."

I might be wrong, but I don't think I am. I would imagine it should be changed, or credited. Kjscotte34 (talk) 22:05, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, removed CTJF83 chat 22:13, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Songs used in the show

Whilst looking for the name of a song in an episode I came across, it occured to me that The Cleveland Show makes large use of popular musicians and pop music in comparison to similar shows, so maybe a list of songs with the relevant shows could be listed as well as the custom-made/modified ones? 82.32.11.95 (talk) 18:58, 7 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]