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Animal Welfare Concerns

As :User Turn685 created a new page with details around animal welfare concerns, I suggest to strengthen the link to that page, by removing the main animal welfare details, only keep the headers and refer to the new page, please post here if there are any objections BrainSnail (talk) 13:18, 12 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Humans

This article doesn't even mention they conduct testing with human volunteers. Any information on that?

Second article

The company is officially called Covance, Inc. according to the listing on the NYSE. I undid the redirect that was set on that page, and build a company page that reflects the history. I suggest that we keep that page, and the controversies page to create the awareness needed. (and expire this page)Cromng (talk) 20:35, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, there's a discussion taking place with another editor on his talk page that you might want to look at; see User talk:Tbd-r1. I've explained some of our policies there (about why criticism stays on the same page, rather than being presented in a separate article), and why mention of it belongs in the lead.

We can't have two pages about the company with different titles (three if you count the controversies page), so I've redirected them. I don't know whether we include Inc in company titles; I'll take a look around and if we do, we can move this title, rather than creating a new one (because we have to preserve the contributions history of this page).

The other point is that this article can't simply be an extension of the company's website. Some of the details you added to the other page could be incorporated into this one (for example some of the history), but bear in mind that people who want full corporate details can read the company's website. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 18:41, 1 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Just noting here that I've requested uninvolved opinions at our neutrality noticeboard. Please see Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard#Covance.

Regarding whether to move the title to Covance Inc., I checked the guideline, which is at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (companies). Apparently we don't add the legal status to a name in the title (e.g. Microsoft, not Microsoft Corporation), unless it's needed to disambiguate -- which refers to situation where other titles on Wikipedia contain similar words (e.g. Apple versus Apple Inc.). SlimVirgin ^(talk) 21:23, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sourcing

Cromng, I've incorporated some of the material you added to the history section of the new page you created at Covance Inc. (now a redirect). I used source material from one of the websites you added, [1] because it looks very detailed and comprehensive, but I'm a bit concerned because I don't know what that webpage is exactly. If you could clarify that would be helpful. Alternatively, if there's a detailed history on the company's own website, that would be appropriate to use as a source too (in fact, better than using a site of unknown provenance). SlimVirgin ^(talk) 01:07, 3 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV/N listing

The blurb in the lead looks fine, although I strongly suggest removing the still video captures from the body as they add nothing useful to the article. a13ean (talk) 13:49, 4 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Lab Data Fraud

There is a bit of history here that's been missed but how far back we should go is why I've posted here.

There is a notorious case of lab data fraud, with a firm by the name of Bio-Test, which was located in Northbrook, IL. In a nutshell, someone noticed that for the size of a building they were in, they couldn't house the number of animals they claimed to be in testing. Once the investigation began, you would find cases, of animals, dieing on one day of the test, gaining some weight a few days later, then dieing a second time. The animal testing part of the business, was shut down, and as I understand the environmental testing part was purchased by Nalco creating Nalco Environmental Science. Around 1980 this was purchased by Hazleton Laboratories. The Northbrook operation operated for about 3 years, when Hazleton purchased the Raltech (located in Madison, WI), which was a biological testing firm, part of Ralston-Purina. Raltech, had started out as "WARF" or Wisconsin Area Research Foundation". In any case, for Ralston, they discovered a significant problem in that Raltech was active in the animal testin field. Seeing that there could be significant public relations issues here with their core business, this was sold to Hazleton. A few months after the sale, the Northbrook facility was consolidated to the Madison facility which had significantly more room and was overall a larger operation.

Now, how much is verifiable. The Bio-Test fiasco, still appears on the internet. The relationship of the companies located in Northbrook can be found at: http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/cs/177000.html. The link between Raltech and Hazleton appears here: http://www.cdpr.ca.gov/docs/risk/toxsums/pdfs/2240.pdf (you'll see the name as Hazleton-Raltech in the citation for the article). Beyond that, this is personal knowledge (Hazleton - Northbrook employee), and what appeared in old newspaper articles on the Biotest scandal. If this meets burden of proof, then move the info over.

Greg Pronger