Talk:Tesla Model S

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New photo?

Check it out! New photo? [[1]] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.194.180.82 (talk) 03:43, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

thats just a mockup, heres the most revealing REAL picture [2]TrevorLSciAct (talk) 22:29, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Model history

There should be a reference that the Tesla S is based on the upcoming Lotus Eterne. Here is an article:

http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/paris/2010/1009_2015_lotus_eterne/index.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.83.173.60 (talk) 22:29, 12 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Legal issues

Shouldn't the legal issues only be discussed in the Tesla Motors article. It seems more relevant to Tesla on the whole than to just the Model S. swaq 15:06, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Seating

I've heard that this sedan seats 7, but I haven't been able to find details. I think information about the unusual seating arrangements would improve the article, particularly any pictures showing the third row seat. Kufat (talk) 01:30, 5 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Base Price

Hi, an anon adjusted the base price of this from $49,900 to $57,400. I'm thinking this is accurate as that is actually the base price - the advertised price is $49,900 minus a tax incentive of $7,500. Just leaving a note explaining what I believe to be his/her rationale.

References:

http://www.teslamotors.com/models/

"*Purchase price of $101,500 for Roadster and $49,900 for Model S includes $7,500 US federal tax credit."

Best, RobertMfromLI | User Talk 02:11, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

UK Version and Right Hand Drive

How are Tesla selling this car in the UK without manufacturing a right hand drive model? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.96.48.36 (talk) 04:33, 30 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"a new lower-priced model"?

The article linked as source for the statement that the Nummi plant will "produce a new lower-priced model along with the Model S at the former NUMMI assembly plant" does not in fact say this. It says only:

Discussions are still at an early stage of exactly what the plant will produce, but Musk did imply that at least part of the NUMMI plant will be used to produce their new Model S, a fully electric four-door sedan that was developed with help from loans from the Department of Energy. "We're expecting production of model s to start in 2012," said Musk.

Is there a better source for the "lower-priced model" claim, or should the article be changed?

Distingué Traces (talk) 19:38, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Battery weight

Says weight of the extended pack is 1200lbs. What is the weight of the standard pack?--MartinezMD (talk) 04:06, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

--Some articles on the web state that the curb weight is 4900 pounds. This is probably with the 85KWH hour battery pack. So about 1,000 pounds more to go from a 40KWH pack to 85KWH pack, so the total battery weight is ~2,000 pounds for the 85KWH pack. This is PURE speculation. Some people need to weigh this vehicle and state what battery pack they have. - Danwat1234 March 13th 2012. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.76.47.120 (talk) 01:34, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

MPGe

The following was added by user:Kabalah70 but makes more sense here... Stepho (talk) 23:47, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

According to Wikipedia's own entry for MPGe as well as other sites 33.7kWh/100miles equates to 100MPGe since 33.7kWh = 1 gallon of gasoline. Therefore, the either the power usage for the three batteries is 31.8kWh/100miles, 33.7kWh/100miles, and 33.7kWh/100miles or the MPGe is 140MPGe, 130MPGe, 130MPGe. It is likely that the power usage is supposedly correct since there is a direct relation to the power usage and range based on a factor of approximately 92% of battery capacity. These performances seem unrealistic considering that the Chevy Volt has a drag coefficient of 0.29 and weighs 210 pounds lighter and only gets 36kWh/100miles. Using this consumption number one may more realistically expect ranges of 107, 166, and 217 miles per charge.

The above does not make sense. They are completely separate vehicles, and the Model S drivetrain is probably much more efficient than the Volt. Ng.j (talk) 14:24, 3 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Body Material

It seems that the Model S body will be made of aluminum, as opposed to composite carbon fiber for the Roadster. I think this would be good to include in the article. --Westwind273 (talk) 16:31, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you have a good reference to this, then feel free to update the article (including the the reference). Stepho talk 23:05, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Charge Time

The reference in the first paragraph of charge time of "three or more hours" from 120 VAC is exceedingly misleading. The maximum available power from 120 VAC line is 1.5 Kw, so to fully charge the big ModelS 85 kwh battery would take 56 hours!24.61.212.124 (talk) 21:54, 12 December 2011 (UTC)Don Fulton[reply]

The source says 3 to 5 hours. I changed it to that.MartinezMD (talk) 22:12, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1.5 kW only available if current is 12A and voltage is 120V. And this could never be maximum - this is enough to power up average vacuum cleaner or microwave oven. Standard 42 kW·h battery charges within 5 hours (8.4 kW x h) with 120V x 70A. In Europe with 240V you need only 35A current which is pretty normal for house (surely, not for flat). 80.219.246.182 (talk) 09:38, 16 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Base Model Innaccuracy

In light of Tesla's release of pricing and options the base model's specs listed in the opening paragraph need to be changed. It might be a good idea to add a section for options as a whole and generally update the article as launch approaches. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.101.230.60 (talk) 22:10, 29 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Acceleration

I just change the acceleration of the base model from 5.6s to 6.5s. The author is talking about the base modell, which costs 57,400$. This model's acceleration is 6.5 seconds. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kalectro (talk • contribs) 15:54, 19 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pricing Info

While I understand Biker's reasoning in deleting the price information, I think that the pricing information in this case is justified under Wikipedia rules. WP:NOPRICES states, "Product prices should not be quoted in an article unless they can be sourced and there is a justified reason for their mention." We can certainly source the pricing info from an RS, and EV pricing is a major news item, both because some media sources like to say that they are way too high for "normal" people to afford and because others point out that prices are coming down dramatically, and that this reduction will result in much higher sales. If we can find good RS references to support my contention that pricing results in much media coverage and market growth, could we put the pricing information back in? Thanks for your consideration. Ebikeguy (talk) 16:45, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

When EV's were new and radical it might have been reasonable to give pricing information. However they are so run-of-the-mill these days that I think pricing is unnecessary. Obviously I'm very happy to go with whatever consensus is reached. --Biker Biker (talk) 17:12, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Curb Weight?

What is the curb weight for the 40KWH, 60KWH and 85KWH versions of the Model S? This information should be included in the right hand pane on the top of the article imo.