Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Level Up! Games

Level Up! Games

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Does not meet WP:CORP. The article is wholly unsourced, it looks like an advertisment. Mediran ^{talk|contribs} 00:34, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The article has a couple of sources now, but they don't do much for me. It still doesn't meet WP:GNG or WP:CORP, and it looks a bit too muck like an advertisement to me as well. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 03:49, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete. Fails WP:COMPANY as it is. It's possible that this is a notable regional SE Asian distributor though. But it needs more refs. I was able to find [1] [2] [3]. There's probably more. Tijfo098 (talk) 15:12, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Please look at the Google news archive results for a moment before trying to delete an article. MMOSITE says they are the NO.1 game publisher in Philippines. [4] Other news coverage in reliable sources exist. Dream Focus 15:51, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

MMOsite is listed as unreliable at WP:VG/S. czar · · 17:36, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Two people had a brief discussion two years ago and said they both felt it was unreliable. [5] 63 articles currently reference it though. [6] So a lot more editors find it reliable I suppose. Dream Focus 23:26, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So, more realistically, 63 articles were never source-checked, right? Because no one has challenged their determination. Textbook WP:UNRELIABLE czar · · 01:06, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game-related deletion discussions. (G·N·B·S·RS·Talk) czar · · 17:15, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Fails WP:ORG and GNG. They carry some known brands, but notability is not inherited. Unless someone can pull foreign language RS that I can't find, I'm afraid there's little hope for notability backup here. czar · · 17:45, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I am surprised by this nomination. Their games are all over the place, and all over the world. Article should be renamed to Level Up International, which is the current name of the company. So, what kind of references are actually out there? [7] - Level Up listed as top Philippine website - before you discount the blog, you might want to read who this guy is. [8] interview with CEO (and ton more articles about LU on the site), [9]. [10] fortinet case study, [11] about the company (not 3rd party). The problem I am experiencing is the extremely common usage of "level up" found on the internet. [12] securities regulatory report, [13] more companies buying parts of it out, etc. There is a TON of articles out there. They do require some digging because 1) the company is based in Philippines, and 2) the name is exceptionally common. Turlo Lomon (talk) 19:36, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I read "who the guy is"—am I missing something? None of those sources are listed as reliable. At the very least, they need individual discussions before they're counted as establishing notability. It's missing all WP:CORPDEPTH. czar · · 16:42, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Reply: I was referring to "He’s also a guest blogger at GMANews.tv and included in T3 Magazine‘s list of influential people in the Philippine techbiz." If an award winning news station has him as a guest, and an international magazine magazine we should listen to him - then maybe we should. Turlo Lomon (talk) 13:14, 23 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:36, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:36, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, per Turlo Lomon's findings. Given the immense business impact of online games and the issue with finding sources under the correct business names this seems to be more of a clean-up issue. Insomesia (talk) 10:22, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Per Turlo. Although some portions of the text appear to be marketing Hyperbole, e.g. "With nearly eight years and a pioneer in the market, The Level Up! Games Brazil (sometimes abbreviated as LUG! Brazil) has...". I'd like to see these parts rewritten or removed to bring it back to WP:NPOV. Cabe6403 ^{(Talk•Sign)} 12:02, 22 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]