Talk:Sigma Chi

How to edit Sigmachi.org links so to stay permanent

Take a link like this : http://web.sigmachi.org/wps/portal/!ut/p/_s.7_0_A/7_0_2KH/.cmd/ad/.ar/sa.fireAptrixPortletAction/.c/6_0_15I/.ce/7_0_2L2/.p/5_0_1UI/.d/2?PC_7_0_2L2_aptrixPortletAction=UpdateAptrixPortletContext&WCM_Context=http://ilwwcm.sigmachi.org/ilwwcm/connect/Home/Sigma+Chi/About+Sigma+Chi/History/The+Seven+Founders/

remove this part: _s.7_0_A/7_0_2KH/.cmd/ad/.ar/sa.fireAptrixPortletAction/.c/6_0_15I/.ce/7_0_2L2/.p/5_0_1UI/.d/2?PC_7_0_2L2_aptrixPortletAction=UpdateAptrixPortletContext&

Replace with: Members/?New_ or About+Sigma+Chi/?New_ or Foundation/?New_ or etc.

Example: http://web.sigmachi.org/wps/portal/!ut/p/Members/?New_WCM_Context=http://ilwwcm.sigmachi.org/ilwwcm/connect/Home/Sigma+Chi/About+Sigma+Chi/History/The+Seven+Founders/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericjbolt (talk • contribs) 08:55, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Wrong Crest being used

We are currently using the wrong crest on the Sigma Chi wiki page. The correct one can be found on Sigmachi.org > Partners and Vendors > Logos ... I currently do not have photoshop. Thus I cannot manipulate the Crest to fit in a 200px aspect ratio. Help would be appreciated. Also, the logos on sigmachi.org should supersede the logos on wikipedia ... badge, horizons, norman shield, etc. (Ericjbolt (talk) 08:42, 28 April 2008 (UTC))

number of brothers

The article says there are "202,600 active brothers in 223 chapters", simple math would give an average of about 900 active brothers per chapter. This seems very high, but it includes all living members, active and alumnus.

How about the immensely huge (gigantic, enormous, etc.) list of notable Sigs? That's getting to the point where we should remove some. I mean, hey, I'm just as proud as the next guy of any fraternity of my brothers, but that list is so long as to stumble over itself. Any ideas/guidelines for who to keep/remove, if at all? Scoutersig 15:22, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Suggestion: limit to those who have been awarded the "Significant Sig" Award, or/and perhaps the Order of Constantine? Drsowell 18:51, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't agree with removing anyone. There isn't anyone qualified to decided who is more notable. What we can do to make it more manageable is to break it out by career field or some other subheading, possible by decade. Dauerad (talk) 13:59, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

The number of chapters has been increased by 3 chapters since February 2008 (Ericjbolt (talk) 08:42, 28 April 2008 (UTC))

As of May, 2011 300,000+ have been inducted into Sigma Chi since inception. Update the number again? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.6.128.179 (talk) 00:12, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Literature Section

I added this section several days ago and i'm happy that so many people have started to include other stuff. Just a couple of points of clarification.

• The Standard as we know it was not written by Issac M. Jordan. During an 1884 speech to the 15th Grand Chapter Jordan talked about the various traits that all good Sigma Chi's should possess. These 7 points were incorporated into the current standard. Therefore, it is incorrect to attribute authorship of the Standard to Jordan. Ironically, had Jordan been called upon the write the Standard (as Ade was with the Creed) it likely would never have been called the "Jordan Standard" and would not have included his name, as he was known as a modest and unassuming man.
• If i'm not mistaken, it's a violation of wikipedia policy to post song lyrics, as they're copywritten works. I'll leave it on, but if anyone knows that actual policy and it says that the lyrics need to be removed, please do so.
• I've found no sources that attribute authorship of the Spirit to Founder Scobey, i've found a few that attribute its writig specifically to the Fraternity.[1] says that Scobey was the prime proponent of the ideals that would become the Spirit. Or basically that Scobey believed passionately in the ideals of diversity, different temperaments, etc. And that it was in that spirit, that the Fraternity wrote the Spirit of Sigma Chi. I'm going to removed the information attributing authorship to Scobey, and put something similar to what i put for Jordan. Just to keep things factual. Batman2005 20:49, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

We own the copyright and HQ does review the content so I don't see there being any problem. Dauerad (talk) 14:02, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Notable Brothers

Added R. Brooks LaPlante to the Business section of Notable Brothers. He's the Founder and CEO of Doughmakers Bakeware, a multi-million dollar company, as well as a former state level politician. Should be notable enough for inclusion. Additionally, he's a Significant Sig and former recipient of the House Corp. President of the Year award given by HQ. He also owns the Theta Pi chapter house. 4.224.90.65 19:05, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

We need to get a discussion going ... the notable brothers section seems completely out of control. There's no method in place to check any of these ... I Googled a few that I didn't believe, but I think there are quite a few more in there that are not legit. 128.141.130.234 08:50, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

I'm going through the list and adding the Category for Sigma Chi brothers to all the listed alumni. As per discussion on this discussion, the extensive list may be narrowed down and a note added to check the category as well. Scoutersig 15:41, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Ron Ziegler (US Press Secretary under Nixon during Watergate) - Can anyone verify whether or not he was a member of Sigma Chi at USC? It isn't mentioned in his article, nor is it mentioned in his obituary on the USC page [[2]]. 128.141.130.234 08:50, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Ron Ziegler is/was most definitely a Sigma Chi. (Ronald L. Ziegler, USC, Class of 1961). When my home chapter received it's charter in 1973, Ziegler sent a telegram from the White House communications room to congratulate us. If you're still in doubt, check the Sigma Chi Fraternity homepage, and click on Significant Sigs. 72.150.117.53 21:35, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Most of the ones i've checked are legitimate, Sigma Chi is massive with a massive amount of brothers who have gone on to do great things. Who else do you think might be bogus and I'll help you look for references. Batman2005 04:29, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

additionally, many of them can be verified by using the 150th Anniversary Directory. Batman2005 17:59, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

I am going to create a seperate page for Significant Sigs and have the section just link to the page. I think it would make it much easier to navigate both the alumni page as well as the main page. Acidskater 03:18, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Matt Groening

Can anyone provide evidence that "Simpsons" creator Matt Groening is a Sigma Chi? He is not listed in the Sigma Chi Directory, 2005 Edition or earlier editions; nor is he a Significant Sig, listed with the General Headquarters. Groening graduated from Evergreen College in Olympia, WA, which has no Sigma Chi chapter, nor has ever had any Sigma Chi chapter in its history. The only piece of information I can find is a listing from a chapter's website of Significant Sigs. I really believe this is an urban myth. I have also heard another myth that one of the characters on "The Simpsons" was modeled after former Grand Consul Dick Hester, also without validity. 72.150.118.89 04:01, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

It's not true. Evergreen College, according to all my sources (sigmachi.org, The Norman Shield, Sigma Chi 150th Anniversary Directory, etc.) has NEVER had a Sigma Chi Chapter. Matt Groening is not listed among any brothers in the Directory, nor is he mentioned on any Significant Sig listing (which he surely would be if he were truly a Sigma Chi, HQ would have honored him by now). I've deleted the incorrect data and will continue to do so! Batman2005 13:59, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Great to know! Some guy, who knew a lot about the Simpsons, claimed that he was Matt Groening, was sitting near me at BLTW in 2003. I only saw him at one open session and was fooled for a short time. I doubt this "imposter" was even a Sigma Chi. There are a few episodes that appear to have Sigma Chi references; however, there are numerous episodes and many references to other organizations, etc. So, did the "Stonecutters" episode inspire the rumor that he is a Freemason?

One of the artists on the Simpsons is a Sig and did base Mr. Burns on Dick Hester, from what I've heard, although it is just what I've heard. ASigIAm213

An interesting thing I found was in the episode 'Tis the Fifteenth Season a fraternity called Sigma Chi Sigma rents out Flander's house. Acidskater 03:24, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Someone on that staff was a Sig, just watch this. Acidskater 15:53, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Dickinson College, Omicron Chapter

Omicron Chapter at Dickinson College is still an active chapter of the Sigma Chi Fraternity, so whoever is the goon that keeps deleting its inclusion among the chapter list needs to check the facts; I refer you to the website of the Sigma Chi Fraternity [[3]]. 72.150.117.53 21:49, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Template:Sigma Chi infobox

I have replaced the infobox with the standardized infobox for all fraternity articles, and nominated Template:Sigma Chi infobox for tfd. -Lanoitarus _^(talk) .:. 06:18, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

• I just want to mention -- I created the Sigma Chi infobox in the fall of 2004, and I'm glad that we're following the standard now. 128.141.130.234 08:55, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Congressional Recognition

Sigma Alpha Epsilon has also been recognized by congress for it's 150th anniversary which occured in March 2006. The line "Most recently Sigma Chi was honored by the United States Congress on its 150th anniversary on June 13th, 2005, becoming the only Greek letter society so honored" should be changed or omitted.

• It has been changed to the "first" -- cheers. 18.220.1.58 01:44, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

The wording on the recognition line is still confusing. It currently sounds as though you are claiming the first Congressional recognition for any fraternity, not just for a 150th. Also, is there any proof of this superlative? The reference merely takes you to a text of the resolution, there is no mention of this resolution being the first for a fraternity's 150th. I know there are many fraternity's who celebrated 150ths before Sigma Chi, so you might want to verify the claim. Thanks DUKyleXY (talk) 00:33, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Addition of Steny Hoyer

I'm currently unaware of any order in the listing of notable Sigs in the public sector, so I added Steny Hoyer to the top of the list. Revise as needed. IHSV

Chi Psi Chapter of Sigma Chi Fraternity

Some of you need to read Joseph C. Nate's History of the Sigma Chi Fraternity, or Robert M. Collett's Centennial History of Sigma Chi. There definitely was/is a "Chi Psi Chapter," located at the old University of New Orleans, chartered in 1882. However, the chapter did not last but a year. Alpha Omicron Chapter at Tulane University is recognized as the successor to "Chi Psi." This chapter is still listed in the "Norman Shield" as a chapter of Sigma Chi. I added this chapter to the list only as a historical reference (or trivia, if you like). If you guys don't care for it, then delete it. I'm a archivist, can't help that I like history, especially of my own fraternity.

Sorry, I forgot the protocol for Wikipedia, and didn't sign the above diatribe. IN HOC. Drsowell 15:16, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Chapter listings; inactive chapters

I began to update the chapter listings after I sheepishly realized I didn't know that one of the chapters listed WAS a chapter. So using the Norman Shield, I dug in. I've listed inactive chapters in italics; is this something I should keep doing? I don't know if it is standard or not, but I think that it is useful and important, and since Wikipedia is not paper I think we should do it. Also, can/should this be a table with activation/inactivation dates--some chapters have such info just appended to thier lines. Scoutersig 06:19, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

That's what the Shield does; I'd go with it. ASigIAm213

Grand Chapter, Grand Council, Executive Committee

I noticed that there really isn't any mention of any of these within the article. There is a little info in the into about the Grand Chapter, but thats it. There also isn't any info on chapter officers. I know there are a lot of officers, but we can include the main ones (Consul, Pro Consul, Magister, Quaester, Annotator), or create a subpage. I wanted to hear what everyone thought about it before I did it. If no one really says anything in a week I think I'll put in a good bit. Acidskater 15:26, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

I think that a seperate section, between 'founding' and 'leadership programs' would be fine; none of the other IFC fraternities have seperate articles for their organization levels—well, most that I looked at don't even mention international officers at all. A section on the organization at that level (and down some, to a province, though with less detail) would be fine, and the similarly-titled section of the Shield would be aperfect place to start. —ScouterSig 00:57, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Sources

So I asked the user who labeled the page as unsourced to let me know what exactly was unsourced but to no avail he did not specify. I have added some sources but wanted to ask everyone to add sources to the article. I'm not sure if he is trying to get a whole bunch of edits(I know, assume good faith, blah blah blah), but if you can't source something use the fact label so others can see what exactly needs to be sourced. In my opinion the page doesn't need the heading of being unsourced and I would very much like it taken down but I'm not quite sure what actions need to be taken to do so if any at all. IHSV Acidskater 23:16, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

It has been about a month since the unsourced label was put in and since I asked about what in the article needs to be referenced. Since I have yet to get an answer I am taking the label down and asking any editors who want something sourced to label it specifically. Acidskater 12:32, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Simply put, I think adding all of that is a little too much.

Removal of Undergraduate Officers

I removed this sub-section for several reasons. Firstly, it only mentioned about...6 of the offices. Absent were Kustos, Tribune, Chapter Editor, etc, etc. Secondly, many chapters, mine included have numerous more officers than the ones which were listed. We had officers to meet the specific needs of our chapter...such as a House Manager, and an Alumni Relations Officer. To avoid the confusion of others adding their chapter specific officers, I felt like the "Undergraduate Officers" section could be, and should be, deleted. With such vast differences in chapter government, it's best to list only those officers who preside at a national level. Batman2005 20:26, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

I disagree with full removal. Maybe keep the 6 that every chapter must have - i.e. consul, proco, annotator, magister, quaestor, and kustos? --Searles2sels (PJ) 21:10, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

I somewhat agree with you, but here are some reasons why I chose those 6 officers:

1. All those positions are represented at the BLTW except Annotator.

2. All chapters have these positions (to the best of my knowledge). Even more than that, with the exception of Recruitment Chair, the officer titles are different than that of english generic terms (President, Vice President, etc.). While there are many other positions such as Kustos, Centurian, Tribune, etc. that follow this, I did not list them because to my knowledge not all chapters have some.

3. These were the first 6 listed by the Norman Shield 41st Edition in yellow highlight (the other yellow highlights not included were Tribune, Chapter Editor, Historian).

I would like to list at least these 6 (Consul, Pro Consul, Annotator, Magister, Quaester, and Recruitment Chair) and possibly consider more to list (Kustos, Centurian, etc.) that are at the majority of chapters. While the explanations may not need to be so long, I think it is important to this article to at least give those outside of Sigma Chi somewhat of an idea of how each chapter is setup. Acidskater 21:16, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm perfectly fine with listing the ones listed in the Norman Shield. Batman2005 17:39, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

All of them or just the positions highlighted in yellow? Yellow includes Consul, Pro Consul, Annotator, Quaester, Magister, Recruitment Chair, Tribune, Chapter Editor, and Historian. All would also include Kustos, House Manager, IFC rep, Public Relations Chair, Risk Manager(Centurian), Scholarship Chair, and Steward. I was thinking we should include all but give a brief sentence in an above description saying that not all chapters use all the positions. Acidskater 19:05, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Acidskater --Searles2sels (PJ) 01:03, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I think we should list all the ones in the Norman Shield and provide a brief synopsis of the general duties of the office. Batman2005 10:13, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Not to butt in, but if you guys want an outside opinion on this, I'd be more than happy to oblige. Otherwise, sorry to interrupt. Jmlk17 10:33, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Probably not a bad idea since we're all in or were in different chapters with different rules. Go for it! --Searles2sels (PJ) 14:29, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Alrighty. I'm a Pike, so I'm not exactly too knowledgeable in the ways and workings of Sigma Chi. From what I've read in the whole article, it is exceedingly well written. By just reading the article by itself on a whole, without even checking the external links or references, I got the gist of the fraternity quite well. As for the officers, my suggestion would be don't base it on your personal chapter, or a few chapters; rather, base it upon what must be in each chapter organization. I would assume each must have a President, Vice-President, Treasurer, Secretary, etc. I also assume that not every chapter has chairs such as House Manager or the such. But I would suggest to list the basic, necessary officers, then ass a footnote or subsection explaining that it varies from chapter to chapter. I hope this view helps a bit. Jmlk17 20:47, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I just redid the section taking into account what we have discussed. I started the section with a brief sentence describing differences at each chapter. All positions from the Norman Shield were included with a bried description. Before deleting or adding more to the section please discuss here. Acidskater 21:27, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I am from another chapter and we dislike seeing so much clutter and information on this article. It is not necessary to have the chapter officers on here especially since every chapter is different. If it is not on the International Sigma Chi website than it should not be on here, that's just too much.

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a rush brochure or a website for advertisement. Acidskater 16:02, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Anything with Sigma Chi on it is a Recruitment Brochure or advertisment. And I don't think the Fraternity has yet officially changed the Risk Management officer to Centurian, half of the chapters don't even know what that is I know none of the one's in my province do. If chapter officers are going to be on here they should only be the ones on the international website which are Consul, Pro Consul, Magister, Quaestor, and Recruitment Chairman. Either the whole list of undergrad officers need to be removed or it just needs to be these 5 because there is already to much unnecessary information on this thing as a whole. If this is an encyclopedia all of this info should be brief and short, it's not a book. I feel that if people want more info about the fraternity then they check sigmachi.org.--Tcbell7 07:40, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Tcbell7, if this were a Recruitment Brochure or advertisement then this article would have POV in favor of Sigma Chi. Length shouldn't be a matter either as Wikipedia is not paper. The list is based off of the most recent Norman Shield because it is considered the Reference Manual of the Sigma Chi Fraternity. The only thing I can see worth changing is Centurian because it isn't actually in the Norman Shield yet. Truthfully I think your biggest issue with the page is the scare that ritual information will be placed in here. I can assure you, as well as the other Sigs on here, that no ritual info will be put on this page. If it were to be it would be gone quickly. Acidskater 15:32, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Pledgeship/hazing/incidents/derbydays

I wanted to create a section specifically about the pledge period. It would talk about the average length of pledgeship (8-10 weeks I believe), common pledge tasks (cleaning, learning about sigma chi, etc). I also wanted to put in a section about Sigma Chi's hazing policies as well as incidents of hazing. I also wanted to include other incidents of sigma chi, both good and bad, into it's own section. Incidents would contain things that gain broad attention such as the John Hopkins Halloween in the Hood party, UNC's recent hazing issue, and whatever else anyone can think of (unfortunatly good things don't gain nationwide attention). The one last thing I wanted to add was a section on Derby Days. Just let me know what you think and within a couples days I will start this 'project' on the article. IHSV Acidskater 04:40, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

All I can say is "good luck" and great job on working on the article. It's pretty cool that someone actually addresses issues in their fraternity instead of just turning a complete blind eye as in many other situations. Happy editing man. Jmlk17 09:29, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

I do not see why it is necessary to have anything on here about pledgeship details. I don't know about you but in our chapter and other chapters in our province a lot of that stuff is secret. Putting specific hazing incidents or parties gone wrong on here will only make us look bad or worse depending on which campus your on. I think it is a horrible idea to add any of that stuff. Derby Days is different at every chapter as well, some chapter can only have a Derby Day due to university policies.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tcbell7 (talk • contribs) 08:43, 8 May 2007.

The point of an encyclopedia is to include ALL relevant information. And I'm quite sure that 1) general information will be given for the general fraternity, and specific information provided will be cited for specific schools (in regards to officers, activites, etc.); and 2) any information that is truly intended to be secret remains secret. Acidskater has proposed (and input has refined) just that. And as for damaging materials, well, that will come up anyway. (See The Phi Psi talk page for an instance of this.) Again, the idea behind Wikipedia is to have accurate and reliable information, not publicity. —ScouterSig 14:06, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't think that there is a need to put the hazing stuff on here because wikipedia is not a news source. IF there was a specific incident which came to such national attention that rules or laws were changed, then surely that could be included on a page about Fraternity Hazing or something like that. But simply putting something about a party gone wrong, or a kid being paddled at an isolated chapter...doesn't really reflect Sigma Chi as a whole, and isn't encyclopedic in and of itself. As for the pledgeship section. I think it's fine so long as only what is included on pledging is the stuff contained in the Norman Shield and other public information. I'm sorry if the chapters of some users keep their pledgeship material secret, but if it's in the norman shield...it's not secret. I see nothing wrong with including a section on pledgeship, it's purposes, goals, etc. Batman2005 20:58, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Your right, if it is not in a Norman or on the International website than it should not be on here. Period.

Sweetheart

Should the information about the International (and we should mention chapter sweethearts too) be under ""literature?" I don't think so, but I am unsure of where to add it: say, "organization"? —ScouterSig 16:52, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

I agree. I think we should create an awards section and place it there along with other awards such as the Peterson Award, Balfour Award, Bash Award, Significant Sig, etc. Acidskater 17:01, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Alrighty, I hope everyone likes the new section on awards and I would really like to hear some comments on it. I chose those awards because they are the most 'well-known' among sigma chi (to the best of my knowledge). Acidskater 22:22, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Alumni Chapters

User Dauerad has a good idea: a list of Alumni Chapters, though I think it should be a separate page. I'll work on getting some of that information. However, how should we organize them? I'm thinking the best way is alphabetical, within states; Canadian chapters would be separated at the end. PLEASE use the discussion on the List of Sigma Chi chapters page, not here, for continuity. —ScouterSig 15:01, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Alumni Officers

While I think this is a good idea I wanted to know where the alumni officers came from? Acidskater 15:00, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't know the reference (if one exists), but it is my understanding that whether or not an alumni chapter uses the terms "Consul" and "Proconsul" for their respective chapter officers depends on if they hold ritual meetings or not. If not, they are referred to as President and Vice President. Regardless of ritual use, it seems to me (as the President of the Washington Alumni Chapter since 2006) that HQ prefers to use President/Vice President over Consul/Proconsul. Might be too nit picky though. Dauerad (talk) 14:28, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

The Founders

I redid what was there of the founders because they were exact copies of the article of the founders. Most of the info in this is based of what is in the Norman Shield. I'm trying to keep each founder to just a paragraph with the majority of the paragraph about their connection to Sigma Chi. Acidskater 16:25, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

I was getting curious about the new information about the founders...seem verbatim out of somewhere. Jmlk17 09:05, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

nope, I just made a list of NPOV facts from the norman shield and some other sources and put it into prose. Acidskater 17:19, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Horizonslogo.jpg

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Fair use rationale for Image:SigmaChiBadge.gif

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Failed Sigma Chi Good Article Justification and Suggestions

1. Fair use rationale must be added to Image:Sigmachicrest.png, Image:Normanshield.jpg, Image:Order Constantine.jpg and Image:SigmachiFlag.jpg. The {{Non-free logo}} tag explicitly states...

This tag is meaningless without an accompanying fair use rationale which must be unique to the usage of THIS image in each article in which it is used. You must also give the source and copyright information for all fair-use images uploaded.

... see Image:Horizonslogo.jpg and Image:SigmaChiBadge.gif for examples.

2. The many typos need to be addressed... a couple example...

The founding of Sigma Chi began when came as the result of a disagreement...

He developes and implements...

He also cooridnates the publications...

As a general rule, each undergraguate chapter elects a female...

3. Founding section, under History does not have one reference. There are so many facts in this paragraph that need a reference I can't list them all. See WP:CITE for help.

4. Several {{fact}} tags need to be addressed.

5. Fair use rationale must be added to Image:Norman Shield.jpg. See {{bookcover}} tag for justification guidelines.

6. I recommend, but it's not required, to conform all your references to citation templates... makes it look much cleaner.

... Jazznutuva 09:53, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Fixed Citation...sort of

I plugged a hole in the Founding story with a cite from the 31st Norman Shield because I've momentarily misplaced my copy of the 41st. If someone could fix that between now and when I find my Shield, I'd greatly appreciate it. ASigIAm213

List of current officers

While some may see listing current grand officers and the current international sweetheart as within the guidelines, I believe it falls under WP:NOT#DIR. Seeing as there are some who do not agree with me I wanted to see what others thought of this. Acidskater 03:33, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

I think you're spot on man... Jmlk17 05:48, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't think it falls under WP:NOT#DIR. It's not as if we're giving out phone numbers and e-mail addresses for them and saying to contact them. We're merely associating a name with a position. Much like a school lists a principal and superintedent. Batman2005 23:36, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Chapter Numbers

While the website and magazine are both not up to date, it is 221 because I was there during the installation of the 221st chapter which was also the largest recorded installation of a chapter in the history of the Greek world(still have yet to find a source about it), the Summer Magazine of 2007 says on page 85 that there are 218 chapters and 149 alumni chapters. This is more up to date than the website and is an actual source. Acidskater 14:02, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Alrighty. I have seen you more than enough around here to trust you man :). Although a source would be nice ;). Jmlk17 17:40, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Ritual Material

Whether or not the 'ritual material' added to this page is true or not, you can not add it because there are no sources you can cite. The only time you will ever be able to add ritual material to a Secret Society's wiki-article, is if they stop being a secret society and release their ritual information. Acidskater (talk) 09:02, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Founders' Articles?

I see that a few of the founder's articles (Scobey, Caldwell, Lockwood) have been deleted recently. Two were deleted for copyright infringement and a third for lack of notability. Is their accomplishment as a founder enough to make them notable? Can wiki quote from Normal Shield as long as proper credit is given? Also, wouldn't these three be good examples of where the redlinks should be left intact (and red), to encourage a potential author who finds a dead link to contribute? Just wondering.... --DAW0001 (talk) 21:17, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Why is "one" wikilinked?

In the Grand Chapter section, why is the first "one" wikilinked in the following sentence?

It is composed of one delegate from each active undergraduate chapter and alumni chapter, the Grand Consul and Past Grand Consuls, each being entitled to one vote.

That seems like link overkill....--DAW0001 (talk) 17:33, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

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Other Faternities

I have heard other fraternity's recruitment slogans and they claim that they are the largest fraternity is the U.S. I know this is false so should we provide some more proof on the page such as an actual member count. I'm sure HQ wouldn't mind giving a link to some hard numbers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.178.154.24 (talk) 12:10, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

What do these symbols represent and mean to Sigma-Chi Fraternity Members?

(1) What does the Sigma-Chi Cross represent? (2) What is the Historical Meaning of the Cross to Sigma-Chi? (3) What do the colors in the Sigma-Chi Cross represent?

Beaconmike (talk) 04:18, 19 December 2012 (UTC)