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Developed by Charles Pierre

Since at least one editor has difficulty with the statement that the hotel was developed by Charles Pierre, and the statement is unsourced, Ive removed it from the article. It shouldn't be re-added unless there's a citation from a reliable source to back it up. Beyond My Ken (talk) 16:30, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pop cult item dispute

An editor is attempting to add the following to the article:

In the 1969 Academy Award winning movie "Midnight Cowboy," Dustin Hoffman's character Ratso Rizzo tells Joe Buck (Jon Voigt) that he can reach him at the "Sherry-Netherlands Hotel" after setting up a con job in which Joe is burned and Ratso, who is squatting in a condemned building and could never walk into the Sherry Netherland without being ejected let alone live there, doesn't want Joe to ever find him. [1]

Despite being an avid proponent of the value of popcult sections, I don't believe this one works:

  1. It's a mere mention, violating WP:TRIVIA
  2. It inherently requires interpretation and analysis to make any sense. Popcult items need to be straighforward description with no interpretation or analysis. This makes it WP:OR
  3. It's sourced to a copyright-violating website

Unfortunately, too many strikes for this to stay. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:46, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am an outsider asked to discuss this matter. I am not the editor trying to insert this content. First of all, my understanding of wkipedia is that by default content should remain unless irrelevant. This content is clearly relevant. Furthermore, it adds something that is lacking from this and other ports by Ken - color. Ken's posts tend to be cut and dried verging on banal.

I see nothing wrong with inclusion of a reference to a movie's usage of this landmark, and it provides something else that is lacking from the few Ken contributions I viewed - context. In any case, given that content should be removed with great deference, it should not be up to one man what sort of information about a landmark is noteworthy. This post is interesting and will remain.{outsider}75.80.107.133 (talk) 01:15, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]