Talk:Blowing a raspberry
Why is it called a Bronx cheer?
- Beats me - I'm actually from New York, and I've only heard this term once or twice. I've also never seen it written on a whoopee cushion. This has some history of the term, however, which is apparently genuine: http://www.barrypopik.com/article/37/bronx-cheer Bronx Cheer].
- I'm from Florida, and travled quite a bit around the US. ... Never heard of blowing a rasberry being called Bronx Cheer, until now. Not that it comes up that often... Can someone provide a cite that 'Bronx Cheer' is the more popular word?Gmaxwell 21:36, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Isn't it also known as a bilabial fricative? Or is that reasonable sounding nonsense made up by George Carlin? Cigarette 15:25, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- A voiceless bilabial fricative is a real linguistic phoneme; I am not a linguist, but I don't think that they're the same sound. – ClockworkSoul 16:42, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Right, voiceless bilabial fricative is more of a 'soft Fff'
- It's a little dated. Maybe I've heard it in old cartoons?
- 1929 Collier's: Maxim give him a Bronx cheer.
- 1932 WODEHOUSE Hot Water: She told me..that she was through... No explanations. Just gave me the Bronx Cheer and beat it.
- 1955 E. HYAMS Slaughterhouse Informer: That rasping sound variously known as the raspberry or the Bronx cheer.
- kwami 00:38, 2005 August 22 (UTC)
- By the description given below, it might be described as a bilabial trill. Of course, without the tounge it would probably just make you sound like a horse.
- Peter Isotalo 18:33, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
- previous musings on this & Donald Duck voice: Talk:Phonetics#Unusual sounds – ishwar (speak) 16:36, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
Bronx cheer
I am positive that a Bronx cheer refers to a boo, especially at sporting events; I don't know if it refers to both. Can someone clear this up? zellin 05:30, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)
- I have never heard the expression refering to "boo", and heard it refering to the flautulent sound for decades. Source or example of this alternative use? -- Infrogmation 13:55, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- "Bronx cheer" seems to be both older and better documented than "blowing a raspberry". Shouldn't the article be kept under the former title?
- Peter Isotalo 18:33, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
- Raspberry as rhyming slang is somewhat older, dating in published records to 1890. [1] Hiding talk 19:11, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
I had always heard that a "Bronx Cheer" was the razzing reception that New Yorkers gave the visiting team at Yankee Stadium (in the Bronx). I have seen it on whoopie cushions, and on a toy that I had as a kid in NY during the 60's (a small, flat rubber tube that had a piece of plastic that you could blow through, making the titular sound).
- I've never heard it mentioned as a rasberry on any baseball telecast. It's always been uttered after a sarcastic applause, cheer, or sometimes booing for a player that's either disliked or one who's made several errors and finally gets a play right.Docbengal 01:20, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
- A lingo dictionary on Major League Baseball's Official Website defines the Bronx cheer as "when the crowd boos". John5008 | talk to me 12:31, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
- Well, the MLB web site is wrong. Merriam-Webster agrees with OED [2]. --Nelson Ricardo 09:32, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
- Listen, it can't be wrong if it outlines a common usage of the term, i.e. in baseball circles. It would not be on Major League Baseball's site if the term wasn't used in that meaning by a significant number of people for it to be notable. This, of course, doesn't mean the other uses are wrong, as you mention that M-W agrees with the OED, but phrases can have more than one meaning. Neither meaning is wrong. John5008 | talk to me 19:42, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
Ejective unvoiced bilabial trill
Does a raspberry have to involve the tongue? Can't an ejective unvoiced bilabial trill be described as a "raspberry"? 66.92.237.111 02:32, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- Thhpptpt.--Father Goose (talk) 03:58, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
A suggestion of how 'blowing a rasberry' might be spelled
I have seen it spelled out in a once popular comic strip, "Bloom County", later renamed "Outland". The character that was popular for doing this was "Bill the Cat." It was spelled out "Thhpptpt!"
I had this problem when asking a few friends how they would spell a rasberry sound....all to no avail so i decided on "Ppwwp!". 217.44.64.63 (talk) 01:43, 6 February 2008 (UTC)P@x
Lip usage hereditary?
Everyone I have asked and seen thus far "blows a raspberry" against their bottom lip, except for my wife, her sister and her father. They blow raspberries using their top lip. Does anyone else use their top lip? Skyler 06:35, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
- I didn't think that was even possible! kwami (talk) 02:26, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Zerbert redirecting here?
A zerbert is a subset of raspberries. They are directed against someone else's skin, usually their stomach. I think they deserve their own section in this article. 75.73.179.186 (talk) 02:07, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
Just Wanted to Say...
Best. Video. Ever. BlinkerBoy (talk) 03:28, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Kids' usage
Totally harmless, mind you. Although I don't have to put everything I know into an article, this very sound is also used by kids to imitate the noise of a car, airplane propeller or ship's engine. Just thought I'd mention it as well. -andy 217.50.49.129 (talk) 23:21, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
Hays code
The Motion Picture Production Code of the Hays era explicitly banned the "Bronx cheer" sound from American motion pictures. This fact might be worth mentioning in the article. 84.226.153.54 (talk) 13:41, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
- For a source, check the section on profanity in this copy of the code. 84.226.153.54 (talk) 13:43, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Raspberries sound like that?!
At its current version, the article contains the sentence "It is also called this because raspberries make this noise". I would very much like to remove this piece of nonsense, but maybe I'm missing something and they really do make this noise? Can anyone provide a source? 188.169.229.30 (talk) 22:12, 18 April 2013 (UTC)