Talk:Jediism

Source

How have we never used these sources: [1] and [2] Time magazine is about as "reliable source" as we're going to get. Niteshift36 (talk) 19:07, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Does it really exist?

Does it? Just seems like a bastardised form of Taoism, with some Buddhism and Shinto thrown in for good measure.--MacRùsgail (talk) 16:18, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by "exist", there. Some people profess to claim it as their religion, even if this is meant as a gag or as a spin-off of Taoism, and that belief has garnered enough press coverage to merit a Wikipedia article. --McGeddon (talk) 16:30, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

From what I hear, a group of students, and the student-minded (for want of a better term) put this down on the census, but is there any evidence of this really existing as a religion? I could put this down on the census, but it doesn't mean I am a member of such a religion. For all we know it was probably viral marketing by Lucas' friends.--MacRùsgail (talk) 14:43, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

I hope it exists seeing as I am an Ordained Deacon and Minister of the Jedi faith by my Jedi Church. You are talking about the census which was a load of rubbish. There is a real movement, with real people, real beliefs and some who consider it very much as their religion. - AkkarinHanlar (talk) 23:20, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Okay, that's a bit more interesting... but do you have a congregation, or is it one of these "pay us some money and we'll send you a certificate" jobs? --MacRùsgail (talk) 19:42, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

"Jedi" has been a legal religion in several countries for years. I remember hearing about the census Jedi movement, and payed no attention. It was a funny joke. Around 2006-2008, I remember the news mentioning that Jedi had become a legal religion, and facepalmed. From what I remember of discussing it at Gamefaqs, at the time, you needed a petition with many signitures of other "members" supporters or witnesses. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.166.9.146 (talk) 11:47, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

The idea that a social group becomes a "legal religion" if enough people write it in a census form appears to be a myth. --McGeddon (talk) 08:54, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

about.com source

It relates to Star Wars Jedi, not to Jediism... 82.16.58.234 (talk) 01:36, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Far better source from about.com: http://altreligion.about.com/od/beliefsandcreeds/a/jedi_teachings.htm 82.16.58.234 (talk) 01:44, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Merge with "Jedi census phenomenon"

The "Jediism" article boils down to a lot of context-setting (that it's mostly a census joke but some people take it a bit more seriously), a few lines about what the religion consists of, and some religious discrimination claimed by a couple of followers. "Jedi census phenomenon" has a lot more of the first and some more of the third (including stuff about the Incitement to Religious Hatred Bill and "UN Interstellar Day of Tolerance" which isn't mentioned in the Jediism article).

It seems clearer to present all this as a single "Jediism" article, describing the census campaign, the apparently very small minority who profess to take the religion seriously, and the legal fallout of that minority claiming religious persecution using the census results to bolster their argument. (From the sources given, the "Jediism" religion does not predate the census campaign.) --McGeddon (talk) 08:53, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

• These are two different topics, or at should be. They are plenty of obscure religions and religious sects on Wikipedia and Jediism is just another. If its legitimacy is in doubt perhaps that question should be raised in the Jediism article. If there are truly no credible sources than maybe Jediism doesn't meet notability.Circuitboardsushi (talk) 00:15, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
• I agree. Two different topics. There is enough to pass GNG. Wikipedia has never been shy about obscure religions, no reason this should be the exception. Niteshift36 (talk) 14:20, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Dismissing the "seven years after the census joke, a guy in Wales decided to become the 'founder' of the religion, and got thrown out of a supermarket" story and looking at the sources more closely, it does look like Star Wars fans have been claiming adherence to various Jedi-related religions back into the 1990s and earlier. If we think the census phenomenon is sufficiently different, we should probably compress it into a single section with a {{seemain}} link, rather than using it to explain the history and popularity of the entire religion. --McGeddon (talk) 09:07, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

• Jediism and census phenomenon have little in common. The only link between the two (besides the word "Jedi") are not discussed in either article. 82.16.58.234 (talk) 04:52, 30 July 2013 (UTC)