Talk:Sexuality of Abraham Lincoln

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That is all. --Piepie (talk) 02:52, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Additional References

There's an article on the proported homosexuality of Lincoln in Gay City News. Including a cite together with a quote from that article:

Ireland, Doug (September 1, 2010). "Forget Mehlman—What About Lincoln?". Gay City News. Retrieved 2010-0917. New "paradigm" embraces scholarship on Honest Abe's homosexuality {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help); Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)

“We are getting closer to the day that a majority of younger, less homophobic historians will at long last accept the evidence of Lincoln’s same-sex component,” John Stauffer, chair of Harvard University’s Department of American Civilization, told Gay City News, adding, “ We’re already seeing the beginnings of a trend that will amount to a major paradigm shift.”

According to the newspaper, Stauffer is one of the leading experts on the Civil War era. There is more useful information in the article, including a reference to a book by Stauffer:

Stauffer, John (2008). Giants: The Parallel Lives of Frederick Douglass and Abraham Lincoln (1st ed.). New York: Twelve (Grand Central Publishing). ISBN 978-0446580090.

— Becksguy (talk) 08:18, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What is a same sex component? - Peregrine Fisher (talk) 05:31, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well there is what the average reader might assume it meant. That component or part of human sexuality that tends toward the homosexual end of the Kinsey Scale, as contrasted with the opposite-sex component that tends toward the heterosexual end. But then there is the possibility of a more precise or different meaning among academics and researchers, as related to sociology, psychology, biology, history, anthropology, or sexology. I'll have to research that. The contents of the Stauffer book doesn't appear to be on-line, but my local library has a copy. Stauffer is an interesting source since he is a credentialed (with a Yale PhD) and tenured professor at Harvard and is Chair of the History of American Civilization there. And apparently he is one of the leading experts on the Civil War era. — Becksguy (talk) 08:10, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It sounds like you may be on the right track. We just don't want ambiguous words for controversial subjects. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) 08:46, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Totally agree. Which is why I'm bringing it up here and doing my homework before placing anything in this article. — Becksguy (talk) 08:55, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This Lincoln-was-gay stuff immediately reminds me of the alleged George W. Bush - Victor Ashe claims. The fact that an academic after the Tripp book (2005) would write on the subject is not shocking. The book created a big ruckus, but was roundly criticized for lack of evidence and leaps of logic. Prior to that, in 1999, Larry Kramer's claimed that a secret diary of Joshua Speed (that he could not produce) was the proof, and a flurry of press came about. There's enough about the topic written to merit the article, but this is still pretty fringe stuff.--Milowent • ^talkblp-r 19:53, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What does Tripp say?

This article starts out discussing what Carl Sandburg said in his 1926 book. But then for Tripp's book, it seems to go right into a lengthy discussion of a falling out with a co-author, and then goes into critical & supportive reviews of the book. But hardly anything about what Tripp actually says in the book! Seems like there should be at least a sentence or two summarizing the book before covering criticism of it. 206.55.187.37 (talk) 11:01, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Evidence for Lincolns straight sexuality

If discussing sexuality of celebrities is worthy for a wikipedia entry it should be at least a complete discussion. There is strong evidence for Lincolns straight sexuality among which is his well documented severe depression after he initially broke off with Mary Todd, strongly indicating he had deep romantic feelings for her. This article thus is one sided and at the very least needs a serious revision. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eizieizz (talk • contribs) 16:00, 9 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]