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First, an important note for everyone to remember:

A few Wikipedians have gotten together to make some suggestions about how we might organize data in articles about weapons. These are only suggestions, things to give you focus and to get you going, and you shouldn't feel obligated in the least to follow them. But if you don't know what to write or where to begin, following the below guidelines may be helpful. Mainly, we just want you to write articles!

Title

WikiProject Weaponry

Scope

This WikiProject aims primarily to structure all the articles of weapons on Wikipedia

Similar/Related Wikiprojects

  • Military history (Covers military units; some work on historical military weapons)
  • Aircraft (Covers military aircraft, partial coverage of aircraft weapons, missiles)
  • Ships (covers military ships, some coverage of ship-borne weapons)

Participants

Structure

Discuss the format for each article based on the WikiProject. Include various categories applicable to the topic.

If the article in question is a list of weapons, please take a look at Wikipedia:List for a style how-to.

figured just post as those other wikiprojects are not even open.

Goals

To develop quality articles for major weapons not covered by other projects, and at least stubs for all the less important weapons. Firearms and fighting vehicles are the focus as both ships and aircraft are covered by there respective projects. Other weapons such as nuclear weapons, fictional weapons, and historical weapons (like mediaeval weapons) are also targeted for improvement. Standardised tables for classes of weapons is a goal, as is connected series of important weapons. Weapon manufacturer pages or comparison tables have only limited representation as well. Tanks, firearms, and other classes could probably be broken up, but with the little work that's been done it is not really an issue. As mentioned, both aircraft and ships are reasonably well covered, but firearms and land warfare vehicles are not.

Lists

Weapon Links

Naming Standards

Without any organizational format naming of guns and other weapons is highly varied.

  • Famous Weapons get there own page names, like 'M16'
  • Manufacturers designation prefixed by company name 'Berreta M-82'
  • Government Designations, sometimes prefixed by country name.
  • There is no standard for a company name in terms of writing out versus acronym.
  • Sometime what the weapon is added like 'XXX' machine gun' or 'XX MG'
  • Sometimes manufacture name is used before a military designation, sometimes not.

Some thoughts on the matter

  • Many weapons have many variants with different names and different national designations, while on the other hand some national designations are weapons that are made by several companies.
    • If creating a list of weapons by type (List of firearms for instance), it may at times be necessary to list a weapon multiple times. For example: The American-designated M240 is known as the MAG 58 in NATO countries. It would be highly American-centric to only list the M240 designation. However, when creating multiple references, please keep brevity in mind. We don't need people listing Browning Automatic Rifle, BAR, M1917, M1918, and so on and so forth. Restrict yourself to the most commonly known names if at all possible.
  • If company names are long its probably better to use a shortened or acronym instead.

Categorization Proposal

Where possible, use a Country Type (Decade) format to categorize equipment. This will allow for a well structured hierarchical system and allow relative ease of comparison between variant ordnance.

In cases where the category created will be to small (one or two items), use one or more of the higher level categories for classification. Ex. American semi-automatic rifles (1940-1949) would have very few entries. Best to put the articles into American semi-automatic rifles, American infantry weapons (1940-1949) and Semi-automatic rifles (1940-1949). Use higher levels again if the resulting categories are still to small to be useful.

The category information section (CIS) would include any relevant templates, navigation aids and details about the following objects, such as pointing out which are prototypes or have special circumstances.

If an object falls in more then one type (airplanes are often listed in multiple roles) it is best to choose the primary role it filled (might not be its intended role at design) and then mention in the CIS the other categories which that particular object might belong to. That object would also be listed in the CIS of the other mentioned categories.

In the case of nationality of a weapon, for the most part, categorize based on the designer and primary user of the article in question. For special cases (like the Panzer 35(t) which was designed by the Czechoslovakians but only used by the Germans) categorize it under both nationalities.

If the weapon has numerous nation-specific variants, do not categorize it under the other nations in question unless the specific variants have their own articles. Instead, use the CIS of the foreign nation categories affected to link to and briefly describe that weapon.

It is recommended to avoid using the conflict where the weapon served as a basis of categorization. The weapon may have been phased out very early, arrived very late, used only in highly limited quantities, served very little action and/or been in multiple conflicts. For the purposes of grouping objects based on conflict, it is recommended to use templates and list pages, which can be in great number and highly specific.

Parentage

No parent of this WikiProject has been defined.

Descendant Wikiprojects

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Discussion

Sample Tables

When using tables, please keep in mind that optimal table width is 250px. This setting allows users across all resolutions to view and comprehend the table without it overly obscuring the rest of the article. For information on using images, please see the Wikipedia:Picture tutorial. The use of tables is totally optional. One of the existing tables can be used, you can make your own, or just list the data. It's whatever works best for a given article.

Table templates

The following infobox templates are available for weapons. Please use them instead of making up your own.

Older tables/infoboxes

These are older table formats. Please do not use them for new articles.

Table

This table is a number of pages. Is done in html though.

US M203
Technical Summary
File:M203.jpg
Also known as: 'xxxx'
Caliber: 40 mm grenade
Firearm action: Single-shot
Barrel length: 12 in (305 mm)
Overall length w/M16: 39 in (990 mm)
Effective range: 492 ft (150 m)
Maximum range: 1,312 ft (400 m)
Rate of fire: 5 to 7 round/min
Muzzle velocity: 250 ft/s (76 m/s)
Weight, launcher (loaded): 3.5 lb (1.6 kg)
Weight w/M16 (loaded): 11 lb (5.0 kg)


Old Table

This table is not on very many pages, but it is in wikicode

File:SG44.jpg Sturmgewehr 44
Production detail
Weapon Name Sturmgewehr 44
Production Name Assault Rifle, Model 1944
Available 1944
Origin Germany
Weapon characteristics
Calibre 7.92 x 33 mm Kurz Patrone
Muzzle velocity 685 m/s
Operational Action Tilting bolt, gas operated
Overall length 940 mm
Barrel length 419 mm
Weight 5.22 kg
Firing rate ~550 round/min
Sights Blade front, tangent U-notch rear
Effective range


Firearms stubs

I've moved many of the firearms out of weapon-stub designation and into firearms stubs. I haven't done so in cases where I'm not sure the technical designation "firearm" is correct. One such example would be AAA. I intend to do the same for mil stubs. The reason for so doing is I feel that it is incorrect, no, it IS incorrect that all weapons or firearms are by necessity military stubs. I can show you many examples of weapons which I perosnally own which are "military weapons", whereas I am not a member of the military. My feeling is because anyone can own these weapons (well, okay, perhaps not if you live in some country where you cannot, but that isn't my problem), the designation of military is incorrect. It is further reasonable to classify them all as firearm stubs for the purposes of sorting and editing. I think you'll find that this is helpful, and helps reduce the overall size of both categories.

Be bold afterall. Avriette 12:11, May 31, 2005 (UTC)'

I was bold and created firearm type stubs, *{{pistol-stub}}

I thought this might help organize some stuff. Lkegley9 02:29, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Condensed ballistics screen scrapes

I've made a pass at prettifying and condensing the load data Avriette scraped off Hodgdon's website, it's on my talk page. See also sections on cartridge data templates that and on User talk:Avriette. scot 21:01, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Articles That Need Attention

Here is the section that lists the articles that need some attention.

1.List of World War II weapons

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