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A fact from Fort Caroline appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 28 April 2004. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Fort Caroline, near present-day Jacksonville, Florida, was the first permanent French colony in North America?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2004/April.

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Permanent?

It doesn't seem so, from the description. -- Decumanus | Talk 22:07, 27 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Permanent, yes; successful, no. It was the first permanent year-round French colony as opposed to seasonal fishing villages or temporary trading posts. Rmhermen 13:33, Apr 28, 2004 (UTC)

O.K. I see the definition being used. By that definition, Roanoke is the first permanent British settlement in North America, not Jamestown?.-- Decumanus | Talk 13:38, 28 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I wouldn't have called Jamestown the first but I find 5 places on Wikipedia do (and the NPS for what that's worth ;) [1]) Rmhermen 14:12, Apr 28, 2004 (UTC)

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Article reassessed and graded as start class. Referencing and appropriate inline citation guidelines not met. --dashiellx (talk) 12:22, 29 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Star fort?

Would Fort Caroline be considered a "Star fort" by it's triangular design? 4.255.52.57 (talk) 20:31, 13 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"French colonization of the atlantic coast"

This is in the article:

This massacre put an end to France's attempts at colonization of the Atlantic coast of North America.

Just what definition of "Atlantic coast of North America" are we using here? Even excluding the Gulf of Saint Lawrence (and that's one heavy stretch), or even reducing it to "Atlantic Coast of the United States", that still doesn't account for places like Castine...--Guillaume Hébert-Jodoin (talk) 18:37, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good point, it's obviously incorrect. What it did was permanently end French colonization attempts on the southeastern coast of the present-day United States, which was where the early Spanish and French attempts to colonize the northern reaches were centered. I made a slight change, hope it helps.--Cúchullain ^t/c 18:47, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

citation needed

It may be helpful that there are a couple of paragraphs on Fort Caroline and the Spanish massacre thereof on page 87 of the October 2010 Smithsonian magazine, volume 41, number 6. Dick Kimball (talk) 13:24, 28 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Location

This article asserts that the fort was 'Established in what is now Jacksonville, Florida,' with no mention that this might be disputed let alone that recent work claims to have determined a location near Darien, Georgia. See Florida State University. "Oldest fortified settlement ever found in North America." ScienceDaily. ScienceDaily, 21 February 2014. <www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/02/140221111218.htm>.