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Time 4 Popcorn

Is worth mention the Time4popcorn.eu as another distribution source. Also you can watch TV shows on that version — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.142.153.146 (talk) 18:57, 4 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Someone please update the Article: https://torrentfreak.com/popcorn-time-rivals-prep-tv-android-and-chromecast-support-140406/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.78.103.249 (talk) 21:44, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There is not such thing official version! PLEASE KEEP TIME4POPCORN, is a legit distribution of the software — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.78.103.248 (talk) 18:18, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If someone wants a page for time4popcorn create a new page, is not popcorn time that program. Why someone put a rebranded app into another wiki? The only official group of the official app is popcorn-org, open source, same name, same license.Sharkiller (talk) 20:24, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sharkiller, as you can see, the "groups" are coming and going, the original developer abandon the project. there is no official group, AND THIS IS AN OPEN SOURCE PROJECT - like Linux. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.78.103.229 (talk) 08:19, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
This page is about Popcorn Time. If you want to write about another port, you are free to start another page, assuming it meets the relevant policies. F (talk) 12:25, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am removing the link for Time 4 Popcorn because it does not have its sourcecode posted and therefore it is a copyright violation of Popcorn Time. See WP:LINKVIO. (Yes I am aware of the irony.) F (talk) 06:58, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Some irony, indeed ! ;-) --disdero (talk) 08:27, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

And is anyway suspect for not posting source code. Be——Critical 01:07, 27 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Once again, I feel like Time4Popcorn's shady practices are something we need to take into consideration here. Most Popcorn Time forks completely rename themselves so they are recognizable as a separate project - a FORK of popcorn time, and not the original. The people at Time4Popcorn have basically only changed their domain name and still refer to their project as Popcorn Time, which is incredibly misleading and untrustworthy. Until they make it clear to people that they are a fork and they aren't trying to masquerade as the official Popcorn Time, I feel it's a highly insensible decision to add them to wikipedia. 180.150.157.33 (talk) 14:45, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]


STOP REMOVE TIME4POPCORN LINKS!!! STOP SPREAD LIES ABOUT TIME4POPCORN !!! GET-POPCORN - IS THE UGLIEST COMMUNITY IN THE ENTIRE INTERNT

http://time4popcorn.eu/?popcorntimewar http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/28/popcorn-time-is-coming-to-android-as-soon-as-tomorrow/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtcTz-CPesQ

This is an encyclopedia! it need to feet the reality and not to the interest of Get-popcorn

Sorry kid, a bunch media that do know nothing cant change anything. There are a lot of media that link us to time4popcorn too, is like obvious if they use our name and not time4popcorn. You like time4popcorn? great. go and create time4popcorn page. Sharkiller (talk)

Irrelevant github repos

What is the point of linking github repos where no development is actually being done like time4popcorn and unicorn? The unicorn repo is just a fork of the old popcorn-time one. The tipe4popcorn repo seems to be just a snapshot of the popcorn-official one, even their README.md has links to popcorn-official for the development page and contributing guidelines. It looks like they created that repo just not to be blamed for violating the GPL (but they have already shown how much they care). --Goyo 46.25.194.164 (talk) 16:38, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Protected edit request on 13 April 2014

The link to the official git repo is crap. It should point to: https://github.com/popcorn-official/popcorn-app 201.255.253.242 (talk) 06:09, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think we can remove the Github link per WP:ELMINOFFICIAL, because the Github is linked prominently on their homepage anyway. F (talk) 12:14, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
| latest release version = 
| latest release date    = <!-- {{Start date and age|YYYY|MM|DD|df=yes/no}} -->
| release version = {{URL|https://github.com/popcorn-official/popcorn-app}}
| latest preview version = Beta 0.2.8.1
| latest preview date    = {{Start date and age|2014|03|27}}
| preview version = {{URL|https://github.com/unicorn-time/popcorn-app}}
Also, once that is done, it should be safe to remove the link from the external links section since it will be in the infobox. — {{U|Technical 13}} (t • e • c) 14:33, 15 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Lol are you serious? https://github.com/popcorn-official/ abandoned? you can see is pretty active. the official page is updated: http://get-popcorn.com/ new versions are out, the localization is very active http://www.getlocalization.com/PopcornTime/ what are you trying to do is a nonsense. Sharkiller (talk) 05:57, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Not done for now: There doesn't yet seem to be a consensus for what to do yet, and admins aren't authorised to edit protected pages without consensus. When you come to a consensus as to what edit should be made, please reactivate the edit request, and then someone will come and update the article for you. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 06:47, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Protected edit request 13 April 2014

As Popcorn Time is an open source project, and does not come under any license (not even creative commons), links to forks such as http://itspopcornti.me should be kept in. Why should get-popcorn.com be kept as the "official" page, when there is no official organisation that heads up popcorn time? Flippinpancakes (talk) 11:21, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Firstly, Popcorn Time is GPL. If there's no complete source code then it's a copyright violation and we can't link it here for WP:LINKVIO. Secondly, subjects must be notable and have significant coverage by reliable sources before we write about them. That repo was just forked an hour ago. F (talk) 12:12, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's back?

Don't have time now, but it appears as linked from Time, that github has the files, and that links to here which links to this site which calls it "Popcorn Time." Lots of open source projects change hands. Be——Critical 06:27, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Protected?

When I try to edit the article I get the following message: "You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason: " There is NO REASON stated and who is responsible for the protection is also missing, etc. ??? 78.35.229.32 (talk) 06:35, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it's protected for IPs and maybe new users... look up "semi protection." Because IPs kept adding links that shouldn't have been there[1]. Sorry... try getting a username (then you'll eventually be "autoconfirmed). I'm going to bed right now but I'd be happy to make any appropriate changes to the article for you if you post them here. Not saying I'll make them though, WP has lots of rules. Be——Critical 06:38, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 18 March 2014

There is other and better distribution then the one in the "extenrnal links" like: time4popcorn.eu

please add them to the external links section

thanks William James82 (talk) 22:18, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The current lined version is to the Popcorn Time Team version. It is covered in reputable media. It has source code. The Time 4 Popcorn version has neither. If you can tell me how this version is better, then we will consider posting it. F (talk) 23:18, 18 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

According to many sources it seems that indeed time4popcorn is the group that develops the program. Here are some press releases and video articles talking about them and linking to their website. YouTube video 1 YouTube video 2 Kim Komando article clarin.com article cuatro.com article

Hope it helps MartinJones1965 (talk) 06:27, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — {{U|Technical 13}} (t • e • c) 22:05, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Here is an article published by Forbes magazine Forbes — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.116.181.234 (talk) 21:22, 25 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: According to the page's protection level and your user rights, you should currently be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. (t) Josve05a (c) 00:19, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Pochoclin

is it really a contributor name, or pseudo? My understanding was that it's the name of the project mascot. --disdero (talk) 06:09, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It was the signature on the farewell message. I took it to be the pseudonym of the original group of developers. F (talk) 14:02, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Confirmation as mascot here on cached version in GitHub http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:ohdqI8f6uJQJ:https://github.com/popcorn-time/popcorn-app/issues/60+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=fr --disdero (talk) 16:06, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

... and pochoclo is <what else ? ;-) > popcorn in Spanish, cf https://es.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pochoclo&redirect=no --disdero (talk) 16:14, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

We should add time4popcorn.eu

Time4popcorn.eu have released their code on Github (for all platforms) and appear to be the most active and most widely-known of the current development efforts (for example, they're highest ranking in Google when searching for "Popcorn time").

Therefore I suggest links to the time4popcorn website and github repositories are added. Dan100 (Talk) 07:09, 23 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

They should NOT be added until they make it CLEAR to users that they are a FORK of the original popcorn time, instead of using the name to try and fool users into thinking they are the official version. They've named themselves time4popcorn, so therefore they should ditch the popcorn time name altogether. 180.150.157.33 (talk) 14:40, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]


PLEASE COMPARE THE 2 REPO https://github.com/time4popcorn/popcorntime-desktop AND https://github.com/popcorn-official/popcorn-app and told me which one is the most active

HAHAHA You guys make me laungh

Protected edit request on 17 April 2014

Time4popcorn.eu have released their code on Github (for all platforms) and appear to be the most active and most widely-known of the current development efforts (for example, they're highest ranking in Google when searching for "Popcorn time"). Therefore I suggest links to the time4popcorn website and github repositories are added. Dan100 (Talk) 07:09, 23 April 2014 (UTC) https://github.com/time4popcorn/popcorntime-desktop http://torrentfreak.com/popcorn-time-rivals-prep-tv-android-and-chromecast-support-140406/

time4popcorn was around from the first day after the original project was taken down. time4popcorn.eu was the first website to publish online the popcorn time files after the project closed

thanks. Andy665221 (talk) 15:54, 25 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry Time4Popcorn is a bad clone, they use the official github to stole progress. They are not active neither the "widely-known" of the current development. As you can see here https://github.com/popcorn-official/popcorn-app/issues?state=open we have a lot of issues reported, here the actively repo https://github.com/popcorn-official/popcorn-app/commits/dev-0.3 that is taken by time4popcorn. Their repo is a clone of ours with no issues, no commits, same UI we were working for the past weeks.
You can see people here talking about the garbage of this clone and not recommending to install (official stickied post on reddit) http://www.reddit.com/r/PopCornTime/comments/232xmf/a_list_of_popcorn_time_clones_and_android/ time4popcorn is neither the first and neither the one that publish buils. As you can see their mac build is the same as our official from http://get-popcorn.com and github. Sharkiller (talk) 10:08, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Not done: The page's protection level and/or your user rights have changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. --Redrose64 (talk) 18:57, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Revert

@Phnz:, why are you incessantly blanking content? Let's discuss it here. Maybe you can convince me that the blanking is legitimate. Tutelary (talk) 13:57, 27 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Phnz - STOP REMOVE TIME4POPCORN LINKS!!! STOP SPREAD LIES ABOUT TIME4POPCORN !!! GET-POPCORN - IS THE UGLIEST COMMUNITY IN THE ENTIRE INTERNT

http://time4popcorn.eu/?popcorntimewar http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/28/popcorn-time-is-coming-to-android-as-soon-as-tomorrow/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtcTz-CPesQ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andy665221 (talk • contribs) 14:16, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You looks like a child. Go create time4popcorn page and dont bother here. Sharkiller (talk)

Someone can please banned this -Phnz- from edit this article? http://time4popcorn.eu/?popcorntimewar - http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/28/popcorn-time-is-coming-to-android-as-soon-as-tomorrow/ - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtcTz-CPesQ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andy665221 (talk • contribs) 14:20, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Warring

@Phnz:, @Andy665221:, you both will be blocked for breaking the three revert rule if you guys don't stop editing the page, and discuss the changes on the talk using civil language and no personal attacks. Please, heed this warning. Tutelary (talk) 15:02, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]


@Tutelary - there is no one to talk to, he just spread lies and jeopardize all of time4popcorn hard work - what can I do? i just want Wikipedia to feet the reality and not to the interest of get-popcorn group. can you help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andy665221 (talk • contribs) 15:07, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

hard work? show me their code and their development. You cant, their github is dead since a month. Sharkiller (talk)

Live versions of this site should not be linked

Per WP:ELNEVER, links to live knockoffs of Popcorn Time should never be linked. Links to copyright violations are excluded from WP:ELOFFICIAL. This version contains fewer instances, though it still needs to have additional links removed to be compliant with this guideline. VQuakr (talk) 04:03, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Can you clarify the concern for removing the questioned material? I'm not familiar with the software; but the article seems to indicate that it's free and open source - so copyright would only be an issue if the secondary website has somehow violated the terms under whichever open source license was used for the original software. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 04:11, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Barek: the software is a platform for distribution of pirated content. The subject's website shows only a goodbye message, so there are not guideline issues with linking to that. But as noted at the linked guideline, If there is reason to believe that a website has a copy of a work in violation of its copyright, do not link to it. Linking to a page that illegally distributes someone else's work casts a bad light on Wikipedia and its editors. F (talk · contribs) mentioned above that one of the knockoffs also is not open source and that that violates the GPL terms of the software, which I guess would be a separate but similar issue. VQuakr (talk) 04:34, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't see this section before I removed some of the external links from the article. That was just because we don't include external links in the article body; I wasn't aware of the copyright issues. I have to go for now, but I will look into this again later. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 07:06, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Done I've removed the links to the websites, and in the process I've had to rewrite the last paragraph of the article with a skeleton sentence. Hopefully this sentence should be neutral with respect to the two groups involved here, but if anyone has any complaints with how I've worded things, please let me know. (When you mention me on this page please use the {{ping}} template, as I am not regularly watching the page.) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 13:09, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr. Stradivarius: It's Get-Popcorn.com not Popcorn-Time.tv, as the latter is already dead and the community changed leadership and continued development at this site: http://get-popcorn.com Zombiezoom (talk) 18:11, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Zombiezoom: Has that been reported in any reliable sources yet? Technically we can't report it if it hasn't been reported first in a reliable source, although there may be ways to work round that. (See Wikipedia:Verifiability for the policy.) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 23:24, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I found a source in French that mentioned Get-Popcorn.com, so I've added it to the article. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 09:45, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr. Stradivarius: Thank you for your quick response and you could also add these sources:

  1. http://www.geektime.com/2014/04/16/not-only-free-movies-popcorn-time-adds-tv-series/
  2. http://www.webupd8.org/2014/05/popcorn-time-03-released-with-tv-series.html Zombiezoom (talk) 11:27, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@ZombieZoom: The proper process to do this is for you to propose the exact text that you would like added to the article - including references, etc. - here on the talk page. Then, you wait for input from other editors, and if there is no input after a while, or if there is a discussion that leads to a consensus, then you can use the {{edit protected}} template to flag down an admin to make the edit for you. So, feel free to propose your preferred text here (preferably in a new section below, to keep the discussion well-organised). See Wikipedia:Edit requests for more details on making edit requests. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 15:16, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr. Stradivarius: Popcorn Time is legal. You should readd what you remove. Is like you remove utorrent link. We don't give any copyrighted file in our site. Sharkiller (talk)

Protected edit request on 14 May 2014

@VQuakr: - Is constantly removing my comments from the Talk page - @VQuakr: There is absolutely no reason for your to delete my comments from the Talk! This is unacceptable! Wikipedia should block you.

And for the protected request:
Let us start by first giving a few point to think about from the Wikipedia list of principals:

  1. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia: It combines many features of general and specialized encyclopedias, almanacs, and gazetteers. Wikipedia is not a soapbox, an advertising platform, a vanity press, an experiment in anarchy or democracy, an indiscriminate collection of information, or a web directory.
  2. Wikipedia is written from a neutral point of view: We strive for articles that document and explain the major points of view, giving due weight with respect to their prominence in an impartial tone

And please if we may further elaborate on the term in the first clause: Soapbox.
Wiki definition: Wikipedia is not a soapbox, a battleground, or a vehicle for propaganda, advertising and showcasing.
The Get-popcorn team has done exactly the opposite from Wikipedia's code of conduct. They've turned Popcorn Time into a battleground, a vehicle for their propoganda, advertising and showcasing their product. And they've done this not only on Wikipedia, but in every other place on the web where the name time4popcorn was mentioned in the past 2 months.

So since Wikipedia now forced to get into this battle, let's at least state the facts:

  1. time4popcorn was the first Popcorn Time project that went live after the original project was terminated.
  2. time4popcorn was the first to offer TV series on the Popcorn Time platform
  3. time4popcorn was the only Popcorn Time that was never taken down and constantly kept on growing and improving and giving more to their users.
  4. time4popcorn IS FULLY OPEN SOURCED - They didn't start as an open source project for security reasons (their choice to stay anonymous made them start it away from the public's eye so they can stabilize this project first and then exposed everything.) But everything now is open source and exposed to public's eye.

And now here's their personal say about to the Get-Popcorn team about this childish behaviour in the past couple of months:

Time4Popcorn not going to steep to your level guys. Time4Popcorn don't do this "teenage" wars- it's just not what they here for. they are older, wiser, and they are here to work. To produce. To make Popcorn Time the most amazing app ever created.
So please, for your own sake, stop focusing on Time4Popcorn and start focusing on what you claim to be doing: Popcorn Time. Because you're lagging behind.
While Time4Popcorn constantly improving the app, working days and nights to develop an Android app (get it on www.time4popcorn.eu), creating a version for Windows XP, Chromecast support, Smart TV version, iOS and more.
you're "investing" your energy in trashing their name, spreading evil lies, and trying to ruin everything they do on every possible platform out there. Wikipedia being one of them.
Time4Popcorn are going to swear to this once more, as they do every time someone them:
Everything Get-Popcorn team is saying about Time4Popcorn is an absolute lie. Time4Popcorn took up this project once the original was taken down just as they did, only Time4Popcorn did it before them, better than them and they never took it down. Nor will we ever.
Time4Popcorn believe that there's room for both of these projects out there and they are happy with competition- the users will only gain from this competition, and Time4Popcorn here for the users.
So good luck to both teams- and really Get-Popcorn team, lay off our backs. It just a waste of your time.


And for the consensus of time4popcorn: (this is just an handful of articles posted about Time4popcorn just from the recent weeks on the leading tech news websites in the worlds:

  1. Time4popcorn is the number 1 result on every search engine for the keyword "popcorn time"
  2. https://torrentfreak.com/popcorn-time-rivals-prep-tv-android-and-chromecast-support-140406/
  3. http://techcrunch.com/2014/05/13/popcorn-time-is-now-on-android/
  4. http://www.complex.com/tech/2014/05/popcorn-time-android
  5. http://www.ubergizmo.com/2014/05/popcorn-time-for-android-released/
  6. http://www.tweaktown.com/news/37690/popcorn-time-has-arrived-in-its-full-form-on-android/index.html
  7. http://www.numerama.com/magazine/29318-popcorn-time-le-pire-cauchemar-d-hollywood-arrive-sur-android.html
  8. http://news.en.softonic.com/popcorn-time-google-play-removal
  9. http://www.latinpost.com/articles/12238/20140510/popcorn-time-joins-mobile-app-marketplace-movie-torrent-streaming-software-now-functions-on-android-windows-xp.htm
  10. http://gizmodo.com/popcorn-time-for-android-lets-you-stream-torrented-movi-1570466441
  11. http://techcrunch.com/2014/04/28/popcorn-time-is-coming-to-android-as-soon-as-tomorrow/
  12. http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/popcorn-time-release-android-app-piracy-needs/#!NbL2x
  13. http://branchez-vous.com/2014/05/13/popcorn-time-debarque-sur-android/
  14. http://www.bldana.net/2014/science-and-techno/11372.html
  15. http://www.europapress.es/portaltic/software/noticia-aplicacion-popcorn-time-permite-ver-peliculas-streaming-llega-android-20140509101401.html
  16. http://www.nutech.nl/apps/3770991/popcorn-time-android-verwijderd-google.html
  17. http://www.lanacion.com.py/articulo/164389--aplicacion-de-peliculas-gratis-popcorn-time-llega-a-android.html
  18. http://www.adslzone.net/2014/05/11/conoce-mas-acerca-de-popcorn-time-la-aplicacion-para-ver-peliculas-en-streaming/
  19. http://www.telam.com.ar/notas/201405/62420-popcorn-time-llego-a-android.html
  20. http://aitnews.com/2014/05/13/%D8%AE%D8%AF%D9%85%D8%A9-popcorn-time-%D9%84%D8%A8%D8%AB-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D9%81%D9%84%D8%A7%D9%85-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%82%D8%B1%D8%B5%D9%86%D8%A9-%D8%AA%D8%B7%D9%84%D9%82-%D8%AA%D8%B7%D8%A8%D9%8A/
  21. http://www.nu.nl/tech/3774680/popcorn-time-opnieuw-beschikbaar-android.html
  22. http://www.pcguia.pt/2014/05/popcorn-time-chegou-ao-android/
  23. http://mobiel.nu.nl/tech/3774680/popcorn-time-opnieuw-beschikbaar-android.html


@Phnz: - stop using words like "real" or "official" it doesn't impress anyone here. Andy665221 (talk) 18:53, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]


@VQuakr: - Please don't remove Time4Popcorn's comments from the talk!! it's not ethical. get-popcorn cannot silent other people opnions. Editr331 (talk) 06:53, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: To give you a meaningful response, you need to specify an edit that you would like to be made to the article. I see a lot of words here, but no specific proposals for an edit that you would like to be made. However, per the section above, the article has changed a little bit since you made this request. Hopefully this should be a little more neutral. However, please feel free to make more protected edit requests if there are still things that you would like to be changed. (Please read WP:Edit requests first, though, if you want to make your requests as effective as possible.) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 13:13, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You guys looks like kids copying any link of every random guy that write about time4popcorn. They dont need to know anything to write an article. We are constantly linked to time4popcorn and need to contact news creator to fix their articles and dont link us with their shady name.

Last Paragraph

The last paragraph currently reads:

On March 16, Popcorn Time was released again, now by another group of developers, a team from Github. While the Time4Popcorn project continues to stay online the other project was taken down on April 2. Now the co-founder of Popcorn-Team, "isra17", states that he doesn't know why it was taken down and that he's waiting a reply from co-founder "jduncanator" who hasn't been heard from since. Isra17 has made another repository where he and other contributors will continue development. Also a new website has been launched to support the new repository. On April 11 the second project changed its website and GitHub page.

I have some questions that I can't seem to answer from this paragraph that I think someone with more knowledge of the subject would be able to re-word to make clearer.

  1. March 16 of what year?
  2. What other project, can this distinction be clarified.
  3. Which project is the "popcorn-team" involved in? the term isn't used earlier in the article
  4. jduncanator hasn't been heard from since the site went down or since isral17 tried to contact him?

SPACKlick (talk) 08:58, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@SPACKlick:

  1. 16 March 2014
  2. After the original developers abandoned the project, a YIFY Torrents developer whose name was jduncanator joined another developer named isra17 and they both continued the popcorn time project. But, jduncanator left the project after a while (without stating anything) and took down the github repo and the website popcorn-time.tv with him. isra17 started another github repo and another website was made but again isra17 left the project too without saying a thing and took down both the repo and the website!. Frustrated contributers continued the project again and the leadership was given to (I don't know). A currently active github repo is available and also a website under the name: get-popcorn.com
  3. popcorn-team was the team consisted of jduncanator, isra17 and other contributers.
  4. See answer #2

P.S: I didn't include or talk about time4popcorn.eu because I've been watching the whole thing since the original developers started Popcorn Time and to be honest, these guys aren't the good guys. They may have "now" some resources and support but I've seen them since the beginning and I know how creepy they are!. Zombiezoom (talk) 18:33, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]


@Zombiezoom: What is so "creepy" in Time4Popcorn?! Can you elaborate? I'm sure I can address any concern you may have.
Time4Popcorn are the good guys. the other team is spreading lies, blanking content, removing comments from the talk page. it is clear that the bad guys here are get-popcorn. they are the worst of the open source community
Time4Popcorn are the good guys Editr331 (talk) 22:37, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Editr331: Well, they were closed-source at first and when they went open-source, all they did was "copy" the whole popcorn-team github repo including of course the readme which included the plans popcorn-team made for development. No credit was given back to popcorn-team and no update was made over what they sto.. ehm, copied. After they realized the mistake they've done, they published "their" source code and it wasn't a surprise.

  1. Time4Popcorn uses a centralized server system which can make it vulnerable to takedowns,backdoors and other malicious code. At this point in time however there has not been found any harmful code in Time4Popcorn. So although this could become a problem, it isn't now.(also note that it's a bit dubious that a P2P app uses a centralized server as infrastructure. Since P2P is mostly Decentralized, this is kind of defeating the purpose of watching with P2P.)
  2. At the beginning of the Time4Popcorn project there was also another fork around, called Popcorn-Team on Github. Managed and by Jduncanator and later merged by Isra_17. Time4Popcorn stole the entire source code we used, however they did not technically steal anything since only one part of the code was protected. This means that they could just take it since it was Open Source, our Popcorn Time Community however still wants to see credits for the rip-off, since they did use the code.
  3. Pretty straight forward Man in the Middle attack vector right here on line 290 of 'app.js': div.innerHTML='<iframe name="igui" src="http://app.time4popcorn.eu/?uid=' ... You are loading html into node-webkit over non-secure http. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the html loaded into this iframe is not sandboxed. So anyone could hijack the page with DNS or ARP poisoning, and then send malicious code straight into the app.
  4. At the time whey they first published their source code, it had been a exact clone of Popcorn Time's source code, including all comments and contributions. Which is a bit shady because they told us that they wanted to release the source code, why than choose a source code of another project? It's not clear what that action was, but at the moment they have put out their source code so that has been "kind of" resolved.
  5. Time4Popcorn has recently released their own Android version, which uses the same "cloud" that the windows version used aswell. This might be dangerous regarding Android malware but then again, at this point No dangerous code was found in their app. As far as name goes, they named it Popcorn Time, which is not a nice thing to do. This could be to steal traffic from the official Popcorn time but it could also just be because they want a name change. So once again, there are some things who could be called shady, but there not dangerous as far we know. The reviews of the android version are that a lot of movies and tv shows do not work on this particular time, so thats an issue that might be resolved soon.Zombiezoom (talk) 12:01, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, thanks for that @Zombiezoom: it was most helpful although the reformatted page has dealt with my issue thoroughly.SPACKlick (talk) 08:14, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@SPACKlick: You're welcome. Zombiezoom (talk) 12:01, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]


@SPACKlick: It is very easy to state some frivolous claims and try to distort reality. but the truth is that Time4Popcorn didn't start as open source because they didn't know what caused the original project to close and they did very caution steps in order to assure that Popcorn Time will be stay online forever. And for your claims:


  1. First of all, the other team has an update feature as well, that uses a centralized server as well, so to use this claim is absurd.
    You can find other apps that uses cloud as their interface like, Adobe Air for an instance.
  2. Time4Popcorn took "the other team's code" to github on the day that popcorn-time.tv was took down with no reason, and 99% of the code was actually the code of the ORIGINAL PROJECT - at the hour that Time4Popcorn uploaded the code to Github it was THE ONLY COPY OF THE CODE ONLINE - Time4Popcorn only wanted to ensure that the code will not be lost from the Internet while fulfilling their vision to ensure that Popcorn time will be available online forever. Morever, Time4Popcorn never used 1 line of code that was wrote by the other team - the online version on their website was 100% their own creation. so there is no need for them to give credits to anyone, beside the ORIGINAL PROJECT.
  3. same claim as 2 - read 2 again.
  4. same claim as 1 - read 1 again.
  5. don't get your point - Time4Popcorn was the first available source online for Popcorn Time after the original project was taken down, so maybe the other team should consider a name change.
    Popcorn time 0.1.0 also had bugs when it first came out.

Thank you for stating out that you're a part of the other team, btw. Editr331 (talk) 18:31, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Editr331: I am not part of Get-Popcorn.com, I am a just user who likes Popcorn Time and has been there since the beginning. I am not the one to reply to these claims of yours, specially the technical ones. So anyway I won't waste my time as I've already said what I witnessed. Zombiezoom (talk) 13:01, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Editr331: Sadly to disagree. When they put their code in their github we haven't been shutdown, was not even close to last shutdown. So you should check your facts until lie. Im an active contributor of Popcorn Time so I know everything. We are open source and we push like 40~50 commits per day or more. When they see we work on something they release non working feature to look at "first" when they never worked. They claimed they going to release their source a lot of times like "next week" "next week" and what was the code after that? a completely copy of our repo until last commit. They dont even FORK our repo. They downloaded the zip and uploaded with time4popcorn name. Even my nick was all over the readme text. Time4popcorn was not the first with available code. They never released any code until a few weeks ago and is that. Sleeping in their github without any commits. They used a few times our repo and deleted everything all the times. They even used ours build in their site for a long time for theirs linux build. Looks like they couldnt do "their" linux builds. So before lie to use that line to all the question is better to be quiet. Sharkiller (talk) 13:50, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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