Talk:Slender Man

Do not use this space to post suggestions as to which fictional characters, memes or folklore figures you think inspired the Slender Man. The only person who can answer those questions is the man who created him, Eric Knudsen. Unless word comes from him, such speculation is meaningless and falls under WP:NOTFORUM.

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Redirect target

I think this should redirect to the Creepypasta/Slender Man section because it is more relevant there and provides a better context than a redirect to Fakelore does. If we have consensus can the link be updated? - M0rphzone (talk) 06:29, 18 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Multiple articles

Can someone just give Slender Man a wikipedia page already? We have enough information on the guy. --98.92.20.68 (talk) 00:27, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, we don't. Even the section on it in this article does not have enough citations. I'd even go as far as contending that the subject is not WP:NOTABLE. --Melab±1 ☎ 21:03, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Time to change the protection setting

hi;

it's been months & the original "problem" has been resolved. i think it's time to "unprotect" this, at least such that established users can edit. whether "protection" was the appropriate decision here in the first place, is debatable; but there is no longer any reason to continue that condition.

"protected" (admins-only editing) is NOT the default setting for pages on wikipedia, & it should not become one "by default" :p Lx 121 (talk) 08:56, 5 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Development and spread as Internet meme

This article needs to cover the development and spread of the character as an Internet meme. Also, what is the topic of the development section? Is it supposed to describe the original development or additional developments of the character after the initial creation? If the content is going to be grouped under a single heading, then it will also need to include the development as an Internet meme. - M0rphzone (talk) 04:52, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Internet memes are hard to track with reliable sources. By the time a meme is noticed by a reliable source, it has evolved so far beyond what they know that the source no longer reflects it. I could show you a whole bunch of unreliable sources though.Serendi ^podous 08:19, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a sentence that briefly covers it. Finding sources for this is really tedious. Serendi ^podous 05:21, 23 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fictional?

"a fictional character"? Should be an "urban legend" or for internet. 186.95.72.251 (talk) 14:33, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I would prefer fakelore, but the term was contested. Perhaps pseudo-folklore would be more neutral. Serendi ^podous 14:37, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What's wrong with this categorization? Being a fictional character describes the Slender Man quite well. It's not just an urban legend (which is a more accurate and appropriate descriptive than fakelore), nor is it a mere meme. - M0rphzone (talk) 03:31, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Urban legend is not an appropriate description for this at all. Urban legends have no discernible origins; they may be true, they may be hoaxes, but the issue is that people *believe* them. No one believes in Slender Man, and its origins can be very precisely pinpointed. Serendi ^podous 04:01, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"No one believes in Slender Man." Careful, you're assuming things that may not be true. How can you know whether one believes in the Slender Man or not. You can never be certain (or say) that everyone doesn't believe in [xxx], because there is always at least a minority that truly believes in it. In this case, even though the Slender Man can be traced back to an edited image with a story created as part of the "meme", it is still told as if were real, and in a similar manner as an urban legend. As long as the character and meme is maintained as an urban legend, in and outside of canon, it can be described as such, can it not? - M0rphzone (talk) 05:43, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

even though the Slender Man can be traced back to an edited image with a story created as part of the "meme", it is still told as if were real, and in a similar manner as an urban legend. . In other words, fakelore. Serendi ^podous 14:00, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The problem with that definition is that folklore is supposed to be "the traditions of a culture, subculture, or group." This Slender Man meme is not about any traditions of a subculture or group but rather a fake "urban legend"/story/fictional character imagined by some guy and portrayed as if it (i.e., the Slender Man character and what he/it does) were real. Fakelore isn't even an accurate description, so I don't understand why you continue to push it when doing so is improper usage and labeling, not to mention OR. - M0rphzone (talk) 02:39, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Slender Man is essentially a reworking of a cradle-robbing fairy; creatures like him have existed in folklore for hundreds of years. But that's beside the point. I agreed with you that using the term fakelore was OR; that's why I didn't bother to change it back. But labelling this an urban legend is OR as well. We've agreed it is a fictional character, why go further than that? Serendi ^podous 04:00, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Beats me, why don't you ask the IP who suggested it? Bad idea isn't it? Therefore, to answer the IP, unless numerous reliable sources explicitly state that the Slender Man is a form of "fakelore" or "urban legend", they will not be labeled as such, and will only be described as a "fictional character", if not just a "meme", which is the lowest level of description. - M0rphzone (talk) 06:13, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I just found a fantastic source that pretty much undermines both of our positions. But I'm not sure it can be included because its writer is a graduate student rather than a tenured prof. Serendi ^podous 05:04, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Marble Hornets redirect

Searching Marble Hornets automatically redirects to the Slender Man page. I've made an article for the web series itself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marble_Hornets_%28web_series%29 I think that searching for the title should redirect to that article, and that, in the "Development" section, the link for "List of Internet phenomena->Marble Hornets" should be changed too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ultimate Hammer Bro (talk • contribs) 11:41, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Let's wait and see if your article survives deletion. Good luck. Serendi ^podous 12:00, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Use better photo

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/GpG0lg75h1w/maxresdefault.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 179.234.96.251 (talk) 21:38, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The original was uploaded (supposedly) by the original creator. Unless the original creator uploads that one too, it can't have a free-use rationale. Serendi ^podous 21:44, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Added from the user, TheDarkCharm, Slender Man, which is said to have been emerged from the Something Awful Forums, has actually originated from Germany, who, in German folklore, is referred to "Der Grobmann." It described something as a "fairy" who robbed cradles (Which also connects to the American version of Slender Man). The legends from the German folklore eventually reached its way to America, and here we are, in the present. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheDarkCharm (talk • contribs) 21:20, 29 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There's no such figure as Der Grossmann. It was invented on the same Something Awful thread that Slender was created on. There is "Der Schawartz Mann", but he is not related to forests or to the Slender Man. Serendi ^podous 21:27, 29 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

List of Slender Man video games

Recently, an anon user asked on the Help Desk for the article List of Slender Man Video Games be deleted. Personally, I'm of the opinion that it should probably just be folded into this article but due to my lack of knowledge about the games and such, I'm hesitant to be bold. The list was created about a month ago by an editor without much experience here at WP. So, I'd like someone more familiar with the topic to maybe take a look at the list and see what needs to be done. Thanks, Dismas|^(talk) 10:40, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Slender: The Arrival, Slender: The Eight Pages and Slenderman's Shadow are mentioned in this article already; the others aren't really notable enough for inclusion. Serendi ^podous 10:48, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the lone source provided (Giant Bomb) isn't quite the most reliable of sources per WP:VG/S. Zappa O Mati 23:09, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 20 May 2014

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Jordan Cartwright is the guy who made up the slender man due to his tall like figure and pale skin. Colonelcoke98 (talk) 11:48, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Got a source? I'm not finding any. Supernerd11 _{Firemind ^_^ Pokedex} 12:12, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(t • e • c)} 12:27, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Waukesha Stabbing

Ref: http://www.620wtmj.com/news/local/Waukesha-police-investigate-after-12-year-old-stabbed-261384231.html Slender man is being associated with a stabbing of a 12 year old girl by two other 12 year old girls in Waukesha, Wisconsin, USA. I feel it's newsworthy, but I don't know how to put it into this article decently (if that word applies). Does anyone feel they can try that? Petronivs (talk) 00:08, 3 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]