Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2014 July 7
July 7
This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on July 7, 2014.
- [[:]] → Coming of age ([[Special:Whatlinkshere/Age_of_maturity|links to redirect]] • [{{fullurl:Age_of_maturity|action=history}} history] • stats) [ Closure: [{{fullurl:Age_of_maturity|action=edit&summary=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2014+July+7%23%5B%5BAge_of_maturity%5D%5D%5D%5D+closed+as+keep}} keep]/[{{fullurl:Age_of_maturity|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3ARedirects+for+discussion%2FLog%2F2014+July+7%23%5B%5BAge_of_maturity%5D%5D%5D%5D+closed+as+delete&wpMovetalk=1}} delete] ]
I believe the redirect should be retarged to Age of majority. Currently it targets a very narrow definition which refers to a religious law with the same legal meaning as "Age of Majority" (within the context of that religion). As addressed in detail here the two terms hold the same meaning in different regions/legal sytems/time periods/religious laws. There is definitely some overlap between "age of maturity" and "coming of age" (re: Jewish tradition, debutantes), however, there is also overlap between many of the coming of age topics and age of majority (example: Jewish law vs tradition both relate to the age of maturity). It could also aid those in finding the article who only know the more common meaning of Majority JMJimmy (talk) 01:32, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Here is a WP:Permalink to the discussion JMJimmy linked to above. Like I stated there, I believe that including "age of maturity" as the WP:Alternative title is WP:Undue weight. JMJimmy stated, "The two terms do hold the same meaning depending on the law and/or region." I told him: What we are supposed to have are WP:Reliable sources that specifically state that "age of maturity" can mean the same thing as "age of majority"; otherwise, we are engaging in WP:Synthesis (see what that policy relays) by stating so. I still see no indication that "age of maturity" is commonly used to mean "age of majority." I'll likely research the matter myself later today or some time next week. "Age of maturity" clearly can mean other things, especially in relation to puberty, as seen by it currently redirecting to the Coming of age article (an article that addresses a different definition of "age of maturity" and indicates that the term might refer to some other aspects there). Because of that, especially because of where "age of maturity" currently redirects, it does not belong bolded in the lead as a WP:Alternative title...and perhaps does not belong in the lead at all. If you can find WP:Reliable sources stating that "age of maturity" means the same thing as "age of majority" in some contexts, and in more than just an Iranian context, I might be fine with it being noted in the lead, but not as the alternative title (meaning I object to it being bolded there and listed right after "Age of majority")...without sources showing that it is a common alternative title for "age of majority." And if it is common, we shouldn't bold it and list it right after "Age of majority"...considering where "age of maturity" redirects and why it redirects there). Flyer22 (talk) 01:56, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Note: Againme created the "Age of maturity" redirect, and JMJimmy informed Againme of this discussion; however, the Againme account has not been active since April 14, 2014. Flyer22 (talk) 02:02, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Also note: What JMJimmy means by "Currently it targets a very narrow definition which refers to a religious law with the same legal meaning as 'Age of Majority'" is that Againme redirected "Age of maturity" to "coming of age#Religious coming of age#Baha'i Faith"...a heading that no longer exists. There is obviously still a Baha'i section in the article. Flyer22 (talk) 02:15, 7 July 2014 (UTC)