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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by RotogenRay (talk | contribs) at 20:40, 22 September 2014 (→‎Physiological effects). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

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prolactine, ~depressed mood, ~irritation

In the preface you can read following: "Prolactin is a typical neuroendocrine response in depressed mood and irritation." This is wrong sentence, prolactine indeed has some inhibitory effects on sexual drive, but it is not associated with depressed mood. Drugs such as SSRI which cause higher prolactine release do not bring about depression! Moreover, mild depression seems to increase sexual drive. It seems like only severe depression can cause impotence, but that is not the specific effect in depreesion, it seems rather that all nervous system functions deteriorate in depression. I would also be very careful with the word "irritation" as irritation is rather psychological fenomenon, an emotional thing that occurs as a part of cognitive processes. Article needs correction!!

Prolactin is a stress hormone if I'm not mistaken. SSRIs have nothing to do with prolactin in the context of orgasm. While it makes sense that mild depression could stimulate one to seek sexual stimulation or satisfaction this is quite often not the case, as depression often manifests antisocial behaviors in people [who are depressed].RotogenRay (talk) 08:05, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Link for anorgasmic ejaculation in the "in males" section

The link for anorgasmic ejaculation links to anorgasmia, which, some could argue, is not equivalent to anorgasmic ejaculation. In my experience, the use of anorgasmia in reference to males typically encompasses the act of ejaculation and orgasm, such that those suffering from anorgasmia are unable to reach either state (unable to ejaculate or orgasm despite desire and stimulation). Including a subsection on the anorgasmia wiki page and rerouting this link to said subsection would unequivocally clear this up. The link is unchanged as of now (1/26/14), since I only have my opinions and past experiences to cite, as opposed to any credible evidence. 76.17.206.143 (talk) 11:27, 26 January 2014‎ (UTC)[reply]


Semi-protected edit request on 30 May 2014

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Mikyaula (talk) 19:43, 30 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Please read our Wikipedia:External links-guideline. Best, Sam Sailor Sing 19:52, 30 May 2014 (UTC) Sam Sailor Sing 19:52, 30 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed link to prostate orgasms/multiple male orgasms experiences and forums.

aneros.com contains many forums, histories, wiki entries, and blogs of interest to those researching multiple male orgasms and prostate orgasms, particularly written by people using the prostate massage toys provided by Aneros. These were developed (and are still sold by High Island Health, the medical side of the company) as medical devices; their orgasmic uses were reported to them by patients, not unlike the side effects of Viagra, being tested as a heart medication. Access by unregistered guests is encouraged. This is a massive source of admittedly apocryphal material on an otherwise under-reported phenomenon. 96.42.86.240 (talk) 00:39, 6 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:ELNO. Such links would be unacceptable for multiple reasons. AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:34, 6 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Tone of the article: Cissexism, and intersex-excluding language

The article uses cis-sexist, and intersex-excluding language, which makes it overall unprofessional. Consider changing "men and women", "males and females" and permutations of it to "humans" or "people" or removing it whenever it doesn't contribute to the clarity of the text. The use of "both sexes" can similarly be avoided. See [1], for more discussion. 207.35.65.36 (talk) 07:42, 22 July 2014‎ (UTC)[reply]

We are supposed to go by what the WP:Reliable sources state, and they discuss male or female orgasms as opposed to third gender or genderqueer orgasms. And the sources do this because they are clearly distinguishing biological sex (the physiology of the human body or non-human animal body) from gender (as in mostly cultural/social matters). The topic of orgasm is one of the cases where the sex and gender distinction is good to be employed. And like I've recently stated here at the Transsexualism article, while researchers address the existence of three or more genders, science has not shown that there are three or more sexes. Intersex people are sometimes categorized as a third sex, but they are not truly a third sex; they are a combination of both sexes, and they usually identify a male/man or female/woman (and their biology usually identifies them as male or female). Transgender people also usually identify as male/man or female/woman. So we will not be giving this article a spin with regard to the topic of cisgender, considering that doing so in the way that you suggest will make the article unclear regarding what sex or sexes we are referring to and is straying from the sources. Also see Talk:Phimosis/Archive 2#Definition for a similar discussion about going without gendered language on medical and/or anatomy articles.
On a side note: Remember to sign your username at the end of the comments you make on Wikipedia talk pages. All you have to do to sign your username is simply type four tildes (~), like this: ~~~~. I signed your username for you above. I also altered the heading of this section with ": Cissexism, and intersex-excluding language" so that it is clear as to what this section is about; it will also help identifying the section once it is archived. Flyer22 (talk) 08:18, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not agreeing but I think this is an interesting perspective. The underlying question seems to be : is orgasm considered the same in males and females to the point that "rewiring" via surgery and hormonal treatments yields the same underlying phenomena? While the pleasure is probably common this context; sexual drive and use of sexual energy is vastly different in males and females. I've read somewhere that possibly up to 30% of the food energy consumed by males goes to the gonads and the extra immune system capacity/layer protecting them. This does not appear to be a direct function of endocrine system balance or physiological gender manifestations (or sexual orientation) but likely a function of the gender-specific DNA information. Finding the answer to that question may require more information than is currently available, as to the accusation of a cis-sexist tone, it is unlikely the article was intentionally written to exclude any group or groups, however the main of scientific inquiry has subdivided this particular phenomena into the study of it's particular manifestation in males and females who identify as 'male' and 'female'RotogenRay (talk) 08:05, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Physiological effects

There needs to be some kind of relevant information about the changes in body chemistry during orgasm. RotogenRay (talk) 08:05, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, RotogenRay. I'm confused as to what you mean by "the changes in body chemistry during orgasm." The article does address the physiological effects of orgasm. It's difficult not to address that when talking about the topic of orgasm. Flyer22 (talk) 08:16, 20 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I mean like a timeline or something which describes what is happening inside the body during the process of orgasm. The focus of this article is orgasm in the context of sex or sexual activity, rather than talking about the inner workings of arousal and orgasm. I just think the body chemistry aspect should have its own section.RotogenRay (talk) 20:40, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]