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Mulla 'Abd Allah (Mala Abdulla) and Kirkuk province
This area is recaptured from ISIS, it should be yellow. See here: [1]
Can we also please add some more dots to the Kirkuk province? SalahWaisi 23:09, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
Peshmerga major offensive south of city Kirkuk
Peshmerga launch an attack in order to encircle and regain control of the areas surrounding to the city of Hawija and spend a most important ISIS strongholds to southwest of Kirkuk.Al Mayadeen Hanibal911 (talk) 13:50, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
- Here map showed villages which captured the Peshmerga during their offensive against ISIS near city of Kirkuk.here Hanibal911 (talk) 16:25, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 10 March 2015
Change { lat = "34.368", long = "41.096", mark = "Location dot black.svg", marksize = "13", label = "Al-Qa'im", link = "Al-Qa'im (town)" },
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{ lat = "34.368", long = "41.096", mark = "80x80-red-black-anim.gif", marksize = "13", label = "Al-Qa'im", link = "Al-Qa'im (town)" },
Source: http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/03/09/400952/60-ISIL-militants-killed-in-western-Iraq
Al-Qaim town is contested. It should be marked contested.
- I'm sorry, but Press TV is too biased and is considered to be pro-Iraqi and staunchly anti-ISIS. No using pro-gov sources for gov advances nor pro-ISIS(at least on this map) for ISIS advances. Don't even bother using pro-Kurd source for Kurd advances. Do so and it will be revered if any editors here find out. Use only reliable resources. Rules are rules. And please sign your signature once you leave a message on a talk page.--Damirgraffiti |☺What's Up?☺ 23:05, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
I agree. Press TV is as good as Iraqi TV which we have already agreed isn't valid for pro-Iraq edits, just like YPG media isn't valid for pro-peshmerga edits. Mozad655 (talk) 23:57, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
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{ lat = "34.931", long = "43.493", mark = "80x80-red-black-anim.gif", marksize = "12", label = "Baiji", link = "Baiji, Iraq", label_size = "75", position = "right" },
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{ lat = "34.931", long = "43.493", mark = "Location dot red.svg", marksize = "12", label = "Baiji", link = "Baiji, Iraq", label_size = "75", position = "right" },
On 9th February 2015, Iraqi Security Forces retake Baiji City. This proves that the Iraqi Security Forces had retaken the city.
I think you need more sources for such a big edit. If Baiji was really captured, all media would mention it. Its also very unlikely that Baiji is captured by ISF before Tikrit now that all the effort is put into Tikrit. In other words, lets wait for more sources before we make any changes to a city the size of Baiji. Mozad655 (talk) 23:59, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Eski Mosul and sorroundings
March 9th report of ISW states, in point 9, that IS captured in Badush area three former Iraqi soldiers of Saddam era and executed them in Eski Mosul...so, I think that shows as IS-held Eski and, obviously, the other Tigris's towns located between Badush and Eski( Dawasah, Musharraf Habit and Halabiya)...Fab8405 (talk) 02:36, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
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Change this line: { lat = "36.191", long = "44.009", mark = "Dot_yellow_ff4.svg", marksize = "23", label = "Erbil", link = "Erbil" },
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{ lat = "36.191", long = "44.009", mark = "Dot_yellow_ff4.svg", marksize = "23", label = "Erbil (Hewlêr)", link = "Erbil" },
add the Kurdish name of Erbil City which is Hewlêr
Rah kah (talk) 14:26, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Kharkiv07Talk 22:46, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
Second Semi-protected edit request on 11 March 2015
Change: { lat = "33.404", long = "43.914", mark = "80x80-red-black-anim.gif", marksize = "8", label = "Al-Karmah", link = "Al-Karmah", label_size = "0" },
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{ lat = "33.404", long = "43.914", mark = "Location dot red.svg", marksize = "8", label = "Al-Karmah", link = "Al-Karmah", label_size = "0" },
Source: http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/181476/iraq-350-daesh-militants-killed-in-anbar-operation.html--0ali1 (talk) 19:02, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
Al Karmah SHould be marked as red.
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{ lat = "33.404", long = "43.914", mark = "80x80-red-black-anim.gif", marksize = "8", label = "Al-Karmah", link = "Al-Karmah", label_size = "0" }
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{ lat = "33.404", long = "43.914", mark = "location dot red.svg", marksize = "8", label = "Al-Karmah", link = "Al-Karmah", label_size = "0" },
source:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/12/middleeast/iraq-isis-tikrit/
2601:0:B200:F7D9:D489:B38C:C5C6:9684 (talk) 12:03, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
you haven't made any changes to it. --0ali1 (talk) 22:17, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
It was reverted, because it was said by an Iraqi official. However, I think you will find that the town was taken over by the ISF, when unbiased sources report in the next few days. What is happening there is bomb cleanup operations, which is why they say the town is still being 'secured'. 2601:0:B200:F7D9:58D3:6AAD:2C9B:A282 (talk) 23:32, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
{ lat = "35.242", long = "44.272", mark = "Location dot black.svg", marksize = "6", label = "Bashir", link = "Bashir", label_size = "0" },
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{ lat = "35.242", long = "44.272", mark = "80x80-red-black-anim.gif", marksize = "6", label = "Bashir", link = "Bashir", label_size = "0" },
Bashir should be contested.--0ali1 (talk) 21:05, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
Sources: http://al-shorfa.com/en_GB/articles/meii/newsbriefs/2015/03/13/newsbrief-03 http://www.themalaymailonline.com/world/article/iraqi-offensive-to-reclaim-tikrit-from-islamic-state-appears-to-stall http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2015/03/13/Iraqi-offensive-on-Tikrit-appears-to-stall.html
Semi-protected edit request on 13 March 2015
{ lat = "35.242", long = "44.272", mark = "Location dot black.svg", marksize = "6", label = "Bashir", link = "Bashir", label_size = "0" },
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{ lat = "35.242", long = "44.272", mark = "80x80-red-black-anim.gif", marksize = "6", label = "Bashir", link = "Bashir", label_size = "0" },
Bashir should be contested.--0ali1 (talk) 21:05, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
Sources:
- http://al-shorfa.com/en_GB/articles/meii/newsbriefs/2015/03/13/newsbrief-03
- http://www.themalaymailonline.com/world/article/iraqi-offensive-to-reclaim-tikrit-from-islamic-state-appears-to-stall
- http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2015/03/13/Iraqi-offensive-on-Tikrit-appears-to-stall.html
- Done it Spenk01 (talk) 22:45, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
Second semi-protected edit request on 13 March 2015
Change Kifri
{ lat = "34.683", long = "44.966", mark = "Dot_yellow_ff4.svg", marksize = "8", label = "Kifri", link = "Kifri", label_size = "0" },
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{ lat = "34.683", long = "44.966", mark = "Dot_yellow_ff4.svg", marksize = "8", label = "Kifri", link = "Kifri", label_size = "0" },
{ lat = "34.683", long = "44.966", mark = "Location dot red.svg", marksize = "3", label = "Kifri", link = "Kifri", label_size = "0" },
Shia Militia Group Enter Kurdish Towns
Khanaqin
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{ lat = "34.348", long = "45.391", mark = "Dot_yellow_ff4.svg", marksize = "10", label = "Khanaqin", link = "Khanaqin", label_size = "0" },
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{ lat = "34.348", long = "45.391", mark = "Dot_yellow_ff4.svg", marksize = "10", label = "Khanaqin", link = "Khanaqin", label_size = "0" },
{ lat = "34.348", long = "45.391", mark = "Location dot red.svg", marksize = "5", label = "Khanaqin", link = "Khanaqin", label_size = "0" },
Source:http://basnews.com/en/news/2014/11/29/badr-militia-group-enter-kurdish-towns/
- This article is from 29-11-2014 i doubt we can still use it what do other editors think? It is pro kurdish source though. Spenk01 (talk) 03:01, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
I agree with what you said Spenk01, I'll find more sources.--0ali1 (talk) 16:52, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
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Hello.
According to a LiveLeak page the village of Bashir has been cleansed of isis-militants. It's current status is disputed. Source: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=302_1426341464. I don't know whether or not this counts as a reliable source.
Greetings
Thunderlips11 (talk) 17:36, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —
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21:33, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
Second Semi-protected edit request on 14 March 2015
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{ lat = "33.421", long = "43.307", mark = "80x80-red-black-anim.gif", marksize = "15", label = "Ramadi", link = "Ramadi", position = "bottom" },
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{ lat = "33.421", long = "43.307", mark = "Location dot red.svg", marksize = "15", label = "Ramadi", link = "Ramadi", position = "bottom" },
Ramadi is in control by security forces.--0ali1 (talk) 19:42, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
Sources: http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=128359
Done Spenk01 (talk) 20:37, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
Third Semi-protected edit request on 14 March 2015
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{ lat = "33.404", long = "43.914", mark = "80x80-red-black-anim.gif", marksize = "8", label = "Al-Karmah", link = "Al-Karmah", label_size = "0" },
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{ lat = "33.404", long = "43.914", mark = "Location dot red.svg", marksize = "8", label = "Al-Karmah", link = "Al-Karmah", label_size = "0" },
Al Karmah is in control by security forces.--0ali1 (talk) 20:19, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
Sources:
http://www.aa.com.tr/en/news/475122--32-daesh-militants-killed-in-western-iraq
http://www.9ijanews.com/news/mod-army-forces-began-operation-to-liberate-alkarma
http://newscentral.exsees.com/item/02f6abfee10f9047a8fa8f34acf7644c-1abe97e1f089ccd45b50c769218ca77c
http://www.albawabaeg.com/51472
http://iraqnewsgazette.com/boc-50-terrorists-killed-in-western-baghdad-and-al-karma/
- None of these sources tell that the iraqi army took full control of Al-Karmah, most say that most of Al-Karmah is under IA control now. We'll ha-ve to wait a bit more to be able to put the town under IA control. Spenk01 (talk) 20:44, 14 March 2015 (UTC)
Ramadi is contested And Eski mosul control by isis
This template isn't reliable anymore and it has taken over by ISF and Kurdish fan-boys , Clearly Ramadi is contested and infact ISIS have an upper hand through their multiple suicide attacks but still ramadi have a red dot
Source
And ESki Mosul is control by ISiS as confirmed by ISW but still its have a yellow dot
- Ramadi is not contested since IS is only carbombing there as your sources claim. The IA has repelled the IS attacks mentioned in your third source: http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=128359 There are no further clashes reported so the town is not contested. I'll put a siege around Ramadi until clashes emerge. Give me a source for Eski and i'll look into that too.Spenk01 (talk) 06:36, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
Baiji
Lindi29 According to this map Baiji is not even contested: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAKTBYfUkAEvCm1.jpg Could we put Baiji under IA control with half siege from south now? (borders of Baiji https://www.google.nl/maps/place/Baiji,+Irak/@34.9658724,43.523798,11z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x1553e7778ff80113:0x1ae72e166db7dc78) Spenk01 (talk) 01:04, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
Ramadi Label Missing
Please re add the label for Ramadi. It was lost in the edit war.
Size of Mosul Icon
So we have heard that there will soon be an operation to retake Mosul from ISIS. When this happens, the battle will probably take a long time, meaning more than 1 month, and we will need to make a map of city control just like Aleppo, Damascus, Deir Ezzor, etc. However, in the meantime, I would like to propose making the icon for Mosul city larger, as well as slightly changing its location to more correctly show where it is. If you look at satellite imagery, Mosul extends as far east as Gogjalil, the town shown to the east on the map. What do people think about this? 2601:0:B200:F7D9:E166:1747:CE2C:97E2 (talk) 20:47, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
- With the ongoing setback of the ISF & Allies in Tikrit i see a offensive in Mosul as something distant, however WP:BE BOLD just make the change. Go ahead!Mr.User200 (talk) 13:12, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
Brigade 26 and regiment 28
Reports of ISIL take over of this two camps , These are two important bases in North baghdad but I coundn't find anything regarding this in this map ,May i know why?
- Do you have sources that justify your change? If you don't, then it will be considered to be vandalism. No excuses. Also, I would remind you that you sign your signature every time you respond on a talk page. Regards.--Damirgraffiti |☺What's Up?☺ 01:32, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
- These two locations aren't even on the map. Did you know that only DELIBERATE vandalism is vandalism? Add the locations north of Fallujah and I'll provide sources for the battles there. 94.210.13.82 (talk) 13:49, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
- We cant add icons to the map without knowledge who controls them. Spenk01 (talk) 03:18, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
- Agree. Need source AND location to prove edit. --Damirgraffiti |☺What's Up?☺ 21:29, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Halabja Governorate
Should the base map be updated to show the borders of Halabja Governorate by the way? Akerbeltz (talk) 21:43, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
- Personally, I don't think governorates should be shown on the map at all, but yes, since Halabja governorate exists, the location map should be updated to reflect that. I would rather the roads and highways be shown, however. I agree with you. 2601:0:B200:F7D9:6562:DC43:71BF:F5C3 (talk) 23:25, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
When do we consider a city as Contested?
if a city is 10% held by one side and 90% by another do we consider it as Contested?
Tikret was more than 90% under IS for the past month but it was marked as Contested. Now it is more than 80% under Iraq Army and shia militia with some IS pockets resistance still remaining but its marked red? so do we have standers?3bdulelah (talk) 15:18, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- You have got an old article there http://edition.cnn.com/2015/04/01/middleeast/iraq-isis-tikrit/index.html here is one from today. Spenk01 (talk) 21:56, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
For the past month Tikrit was 60-80% under ISF so we marked it as contested. Tikrit is now 99% under ISF. We will not mark it as contested just because of that 1 percent which is essentially just a few dozen ISIS fighters against 20.000+ ISF. I don't see the problem. Mozad655 (talk) 11:57, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
Misplaced item on map
A few days ago, Anbar Operations Command was added to the map by Hanibal911.
The coordinates place it out in the middle of the desert northeast of Tharthar Lake:
That is not where it should be. This is an error and needs to be fixed. 2601:0:B200:F7D9:6562:DC43:71BF:F5C3 (talk) 23:29, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
- Hanibal911 you need to fix this error.Lindi29 (talk) 20:02, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
- Lindi29 Done Here is coordinates Al Anbar Operations Command Hanibal911 (talk) 21:18, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
Dijlah and Mukayshfah
These extremely two small villages (literally just a few houses if you look on satalite) were marked as contested a couple of months ago. I would like to change them to red based on probability. It is highly improbable that ISF have captured Tikrit and all the surrounding villages and towns on the path, but gone around Dijlah and Mukayshfah which are literally just a couple of farmers houses. Now because they are so insignificant no source even bothers to mention them these days. I think it would be wrong to wait for a source to disprove when its so extremely unlikely that they are still under ISIS. Does anyone else think this? Mozad655 (talk) 17:40, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
- I agree completely. I seem to remember awhile back a pro-government source (petolucem if I remember correctly) saying ISF cleared them, but we couldn't use him because he was biased. He is probably right. I agree, they should be marked as red. 2601:0:B200:F7D9:186D:7392:97A4:6D28 (talk) 00:55, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- NO source provided.Lindi29 (talk) 20:01, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
We don't need any source in cases like this when there is an agreement. Your not a pharoah. Mozad655 (talk) 21:08, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
I have a source Nytimes newest map Image here Map (UPDATED April 7, 2015) Ricardomoha (talk) 18:11, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 5 April 2015
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lat = "34.446", long = "43.250", mark = "Abm-red-icon.png", marksize = "6", label = "Anbar Operations Command", link = "Anbar Operations Command", label_size = "0" },
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lat = "33.443", long = "43.265", mark = "Abm-red-icon.png", marksize = "6", label = "Anbar Operations Command", link = "Anbar Operations Command", label_size = "0" },
A few days ago, Anbar Operations Command was added to the map by Hanibal911. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Module:Iraqi_insurgency_detailed_map&diff=prev&oldid=654222810
The coordinates place it out in the middle of the desert northeast of Tharthar Lake: https://www.google.com/maps/place/34%C2%B026'34.8%22N+43%C2%B015'39.6%22E/@34.4418183,43.2600833,6781m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x0
That is not where it should be. This is an error and needs to be fixed. I think I found the right coordinates. 2601:0:B200:F7D9:6403:87C5:3A12:8241 (talk) 16:06, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Preferably someplace that actually says the cords, not just looking at them on a map. Kharkiv07Talk 18:42, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
Here it is:
http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=33.443268&lon=43.265512&z=16&m=b&show=/12083069/Anbar-Operations-Command 2601:0:B200:F7D9:A0F5:98B2:273F:F534 (talk) 20:18, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- Already done by Hanibal911. See § Misplaced item on map. Stickee (talk) 22:48, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 7 April 2015
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{ lat = "35.235", long = "43.890", mark = "Location dot black.svg", marksize = "6", label = "Riyadh", link = "Riyadh", label_size = "0", position = "bottom" },
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{ lat = "35.235", long = "43.890", mark = "80x80-red-black-anim.gif", marksize = "6", label = "Riyadh", link = "Riyadh", label_size = "0", position = "bottom" },
source:
http://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/iraq-situation-report-april-4-6-2015
Clearing operations have begun south of Hawija. I can't find 'Umm al-Ramil' which is mentioned in the article, perhaps they are referring to al-Raml?
2601:0:B200:F7D9:3CCC:8F29:3E5D:AA9B (talk) 13:39, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 9 April 2015
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ANBAR PROVINCE:
Abu Ghraib:
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{ lat = "33.292", long = "44.066", mark = "80x80-red-black-anim.gif", marksize = "9", label = "Abu Ghraib", link = "Abu Ghraib", label_size = "0" }, to:
{ lat = "33.292", long = "44.066", mark = "Location dot red.svg", marksize = "9", label = "Abu Ghraib", link = "Abu Ghraib", label_size = "0" },
Amiriyat al-Fallujah
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{ lat = "33.179", long = "43.855", mark = "80x80-red-black-anim.gif", marksize = "7", label = "Amiriyat al-Fallujah", link = "Amiriyat al-Fallujah", label_size = "0", position = "top", },
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{ lat = "33.179", long = "43.855", mark = "Location dot red.svg", marksize = "7", label = "Amiriyat al-Fallujah", link = "Amiriyat al-Fallujah", label_size = "0", position = "top", },
Al Zaidan
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{ lat = "33.25", long = "44.033", mark = "80x80-red-black-anim.gif", marksize = "6", label = "Al Zaidan", link = "Al Zaidan", label_size = "0", position = "right" },
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{ lat = "33.25", long = "44.033", mark = "Location dot red.svg", marksize = "6", label = "Al Zaidan", link = "Al Zaidan", label_size = "0", position = "right" },
Saladin PROVINCE:
Dijlah:
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{ lat = "34.369", long = "43.764", mark = "80x80-red-black-anim.gif", marksize = "5", label = "Dijlah", link = "Dijlah", label_size = "0" },
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{ lat = "34.369", long = "43.764", mark = "Location dot red.svg", marksize = "5", label = "Dijlah", link = "Dijlah", label_size = "0" },
Mukayshfah:
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{ lat = "34.367", long = "43.743", mark = "80x80-red-black-anim.gif", marksize = "5", label = "Mukayshfah", link = "Mukayshfah", label_size = "0" },
to: { lat = "34.367", long = "43.743", mark = "Location dot red.svg", marksize = "5", label = "Mukayshfah", link = "Mukayshfah", label_size = "0" },
Nebai:
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{ lat = "33.823", long = "44.129", mark = "80x80-red-black-anim.gif", marksize = "6", label = "Nebai", link = "Nebai", label_size = "0", position = "top", },
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{ lat = "33.823", long = "44.129", mark = "Location dot red.svg", marksize = "6", label = "Nebai", link = "Nebai", label_size = "0", position = "top", },
SOURCE: http://isis.liveuamap.com/--0ali1 (talk) 07:22, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
Source isn't reliable at all, many mistakes on the map, but i did provide reliable source about about Dijlah and Mukayshfah, I don't know why they didn't change it. Ricardomoha (talk) 11:16, 9 April 2015 (UTC)