User talk:Bishonen

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Lingeron

I see some interatction with this user by you... See this ANI entry... I have warned this user as well. Do you know how to ask for a checkuser? I've never done that before. ++Lar: t/c 11:59, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Go to WP:RFCU and follow the instructions, if you think that's the way to go. However, CheckUser requests us to handle obvious socks without bothering them. This is an obvious sock, though I don't have a chance to list the coincidences right now--connection failing...failing.... Bishonen | talk 17:35, 29 July 2006 (UTC).[reply]

A precis to update you... Geogre looked into it, and based on the evidence in contribs and style, blocked as an obvious sock. Deckiller protested, unblocked, discussion on AN/I ensued, Essjay popped in, ran the checkuser without being formally asked, and officially confirmed sockhood and I reblocked. This time for good hopefully. Amazing how much time of the community this user wastes. Now I can get back to pimping for comments on Phaedriel's RfA so she can break 200... :) ++Lar: t/c 11:41, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, being the unoficial scold of AN/I, I have to say that I agree with the questions, the checkuser, and the reinstatement. It's all cool, and folks should get cookies for being thorough. Still, it was a rather obvious reincarnation. <shrug> This head of the hydra has been lopped off, a new one to appear soon, no doubt. Geogre 12:22, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As I told Deckiller, that's part of the process and good. I was however somewhat annoyed with User:GT, who I guess just took Lingeron's word that Thewolfstar was a Democrat! Actually, Lingeron didn't even say *that*, just that Thewolfstar mostly edited Democratic politic party articles, and GT picked up the implication and ran with it. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 16:35, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks guys. (I'm a little baffled by the way the people don't seem to have taken on board my own ANI post, but whatever.) Lar, since your block is the operative one, did you tick the "disable account creation" box when you blocked? If not, I'd advise you to unblock and then re-block doing that. (Don't tick the other box.) The CheckUser result rather suggests, to my mind, that Lingeron was editing from the wolfster's very own unique IP--we know she has one of those--rather than from an open proxy, and in that case this would be a great opportunity to disable account creation from the expansive sockfarm of this pest. Bishonen | talk 21:54, 30 July 2006 (UTC).[reply]

I *think* I've read that the two new checkboxes don't do *anything* if it's a username being blocked and not an IP, actually. (And I'll certainly help out with that other thing too. Or just laugh. It's hard to say.) —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 22:02, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I believe I did tick "disable account creation" as I usually do, but can't be 100% sure. The block log should be enhanced to record and display that maybe?? ++Lar: t/c 22:42, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Enjoy your wikibreak!

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Have a cold one, all the way up!

Have a relaxing wikibreak, Bish - you deserve it! :) Phaedriel ♥ The Wiki Soundtrack!♪ - 13:25, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

wikibreak

Have fun "chillin'" during your break wherever you're at right now. You seriously needs to just chillax 'cause you work wayyyy too hard on this. I'm actually on break too even though no one on here seems to give :(. But yeah anyway I'll see ya around. Take it ez P.S. Holla bak @ me when you get back okay?? I gotta ask you something. I know you're prolly real disappointed in me right now. --Bonafide.hustla 07:40, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Boney, nope, I didn't check out the argument you were having, so I'm not disappointed yet! :-) Just behave yourself, is all. See you later. --Bishonen | talk 22:01, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

MSTCrow

I think that you have good cause for an arbitration request against MSTCrow, however it is also clear that the NPR request will not be accepted, largely due to the fact that dispute is seen as content-related and premature. I know you had asked that the case be accepted to look into MSTCrow's conduct, and I hate causing more work for the sake of process, but in this case I do think it would be worth the time to file a new request specifically for MSTCrow, and give more rationale specifically for that case. That would be more articlate and will probably be accepted. Thanks. Note: Copied to Calton. Dmcdevit·t 06:14, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reply to Dmcdevit:

While I (obviously) agree with you that there's enough troublesome behavior to warrant ArbCom action, a quick look at the ArbCom page tells me that you folks are already up to your eyeballs in work, so practically it may not be a good idea -- especially if, as seems likely to me, MSTCrow is on his way down the slippery slope to a community ban. Under the theory of "give 'em enough rope and they'll hang themselves", it won't take much more edit-warring, insults, pointless wikilawyering -- note his defense of Lingeron (talk · contribs) -- and occasional outright lies for him to alienate a critical mass of editors/admins, which would render ArbCom action moot.

Besides, if he's true to form, any ArbCom case involving him would be wikilawyered up the wazoo, all intended to prove that it's everyone else's fault. His blocks certainly haven't taught him a damned thing (I've been blocked twice, not five times, and both times the blocks were vindictive and not based on fact..., as he claimed on his talk page) and I kind of doubt ArbCom sanctions would do more than provide him a martyrdom issue, either.

We'll see, I guess. So far, no other ArbCom members have weighed in, and depending on how they feel, this may be moot. Note: Copied to Bishonen. --Calton | Talk 07:48, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Calton and Rattboy are better placed than me for drawing up a case against the user: I'd have to research it bigtime, as the only thing I've seen of him comes from noticing those dumbass templates on Calton's page, and the following unreasonableness and aggression. I'm pretty centrally involved in two RFAr cases right now, plus I'm on vacation dammit, there's no way I'm going to instigate another one. I'll weigh in if you guys request arbitration, though. Calton, you might be interested in my latest comment on Bunchofgrapes' page: I see certain reasons to suspect MSTCrow of being yet another maggie sock. The coincidences aren't enough to be certain at all, but there's the unreasoning Bishonen hatred (see how there's no resentment of El C, the actual blocker, all the venom reserved for me? And BoG mentioned, too: both of us are old adversaries of the wolfster, especially me.) And on the sensible principle, enunciated by Lar, I think it was, that anybody who thinks maggie is a good editor has to be maggie (or be insane), this should be maggie. Anyway, you might want to keep it in mind as a possibility. There's something about the tone that strikes me as not the same, though. Equally objectionable, but not exactly in the same way. Bishonen | talk 13:48, 2 August 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Maggie's nothing like the wikilawyer that this critter is. Further, this critter keeps trying to stay just inside the letters of what he perceives as the law, where Maggie would gleefully run about with a flame thrower and a can of gasoline. I really don't think they're the same person, even though I think this Mystery Science Theater fan may well be a reincarnated troll. Geogre 14:45, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

LMK if you need an outside view. ++Lar: t/c 22:36, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ultimately I'd say he's just a disgruntled wikipedian who fell in with Lingeron because they were both "abused" by Bishonen. Lingeron expressed sympathy for one of MSTCrow's earlier blocks because she too felt Bishonen was unfair, and MSTCrow later started rabble-rousing about Lingeron's block because he had an axe to grind against Bishonen. Think horses, not zebras. That said, I'd still say MSTCrow is probably going to flame out spectacularly and earn himself a block all by his lonesome if he keeps up the inflammatory rhetoric accusing Bishonen of corruption.--Rosicrucian 22:58, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Winslow Hall

Why are you never here when I need you? Who has deleted this important page, can you find out where it has gone - i don't just write these things for my own amusement - I know I wrote it, im my early days (under the first name) but where has it gone? Giano | talk 21:42, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Taken care of. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 22:01, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) It got deleted, but you don't need me--Bunch has restored it. Now thank him nicely. Did you see this and this from Fred? I've just posted my disagreement with the first one. :-) Bishonen | talk 22:07, 2 August 2006 (UTC).[reply]

I have thanked him nicely, but I am, still less than thrilld by his edit here [2]. I note he has now changed his mind - rather like Fred really Giano | talk 22:31, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

H.E.'s arbcom case

Just letting you know that I plan on staying on top of him and Usher once the case is completed. I figure you'll need the assistance. :) And hey, I'm a glutton for punishment, I admit it. --Woohookitty^(meow) 11:45, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Woohoo. Considering the evidence I've posted in this case, I think it would be a rare situation where it became appropriate for me to block or unblock anybody involved in it in the future, so... congratulations, it's all yours!

Bishonen | talk 17:20, 5 August 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Welcome back

You're early, even if you meant August 6th UTC.

Welcome back. Let's get in touch soon, eh? Geogre 17:03, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I deleted that...? Sorry! I was messing with my page, trying to produce a version with both the new wikiquote and the ... never mind, doesn't matter, suffice that it was an accident. I never got an edit conflict either. Why aren't you on Skype?? Bishonen | talk 19:48, 5 August 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Back already, what was the matter? Hotel no good? Well if you will stay in these cut price establishments what do you expect - its a false economy to be so miserly. Well you have not missed much (I am still here) and shortly to be become an arbitrator! - seize the moment and the bull by the horn has always been my motto - so I'm organizing coup d'état of the arb-com, it's all BoG's idea - I could never have thought of it on my own - isn't he clever - we storm tomorrow. BoG is painting his face with cork and putting folliage (from Paul August's Hall tree) in his hair as we speak Giano | talk 20:04, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean hotel? I was in the middle of the North Sea with a modem between my teeth. Are you sure you want to be an arbitrator? You do realize Bishzilla keeps them in her pocket? Bishonen | talk 20:12, 5 August 2006 (UTC).[reply]

You're about to become an arbitrator??? ORLY? ++Lar: t/c 20:39, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You sound surprised Lar - any particular reason? Giano | talk 21:45, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Despite scientists' expectations, the population of modem-chewing elephants in the North Sea has tripled over the last six months. (Hi Bish! Great to have you officially back on board.) —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 22:42, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I actually managed two edits from the North-Sea bound train, principally this. It took rage and some filial tech support, but I did it. Ho hum [bursting with pride], have you edited from a train? Trainzilla | talk 23:09, 5 August 2006 (UTC).[reply]

In the U.S., the internet is just series of tubes, so we can't edit from trains here... the last tube would rip right off. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 23:19, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lmfao, the comment above was hilarious. Anyway, welcome back Bish, good to see ya.--Bonafide.hustla 01:51, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Johnny Canuck

I wouldn't object to some progressive blocks. I'm wondering what Johnny's connection to Vaughnwatch is? User:Zoe|(talk) 22:56, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Are User:JohnnyCanuck and User:Johnny Canuck related? The latter seems to be doin OK work on Carl Lewis, a page I watch. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 22:59, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They look like different guys to me, even though both are into sports. Congratulations, you get to do something about the username melée. Bishonen | talk 23:03, 5 August 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Oh boy! Let the fun begin! Well, I started the process. Soon comes the inevitable "I don't wanna! I'm blocking you! Waaaah!" stage, right? —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 23:19, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Have you guys looked into the other half of this edit/flame war. In my opinion, user:pm_shef isn't the innocent victim here. ED209 01:40, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:Cute 1 4 u

This user has two sockpuppets confirmed by CheckUser. After the kerfuffle over her Raven Symone sock, I'm presently debating putting the sockpuppeteer template on her userpage. However, I suspect she'd probably just delete it and cause Wikidrama. Your thoughts?--Rosicrucian 02:59, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My userpage protection

Bishonen, it's been almost a year. Can you unprotect my user and talk pages now? I promise, I will behave 99% of the time. Due to current circumstances, I need to contribute anonymously, and would like the avenue for debate open. 67.18.109.218 03:55, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]