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Frankly, I'm tired of constantly correcting fake statistics of height weight and age; how about we just remove them completely until we get an entire set of stats (possibly in MKA?) at which time we will know all characters heights and weights and ages hopefully.

I suggested that earlier, since the constant stat changes swamp the more interesting edits to the pages, but the other project members wanted to keep them in.Virogtheconq 19:12, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mortal Kombat tournament merge

I think that page is frankly not important enough to have an entire article devoted to it, but is important enough to have a section in this page. Comments?Virogtheconq 18:11, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It reads more like a fanfic than a Wikipedia article. I wouldn't bother merging it, I'd just flat out delete it. The tournament itself isn't as notable as the games (of which it was only featured in three, and one's canonity is questionable!) or the characters. Any information about the tournament can be gleamed from the pages we already have set up for the games, which explain the backstory just lovely. --L T Dangerous 15:00, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I say keep it as it is. It deserves its own entry, to distinquish the concept of Mortal Kombat from the actual game series. Itake 05:12, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Having reviewed it a second time, the article has been significantly revised and can stand by itself. If no one objects in the next week or so, I'm thinking of removing the merge tag and trying to link more articles to it. Virogtheconq 18:13, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see why it needs to be seperate. The "Mortal Kombat Tournament" page is nothing more than the storyline that the games, tv shows, etc... follow. It seems more like something that you'd have as part of a larger article. --Marhawkman 01:30, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, there's enough information contained in the article that merging it to another would make that one quite long, which is why I think it should stay as-is. Virogtheconq 05:52, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well The MK tournament is part of the MK Spectrum--Triple-Quadruple 20:12, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think they should be merged. This page should deal strictly with the game information, and the other should deal with the tournament as a story device. --DragonMaster 00:08, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Page Created

Created this page from Mortal Kombat, which needed to be separated into distinct game and series pages. I've basically just copied and pasted the stuff I think should belong here, though this page now needs heavy cleaning and reformatting. Also, could someone perhaps get a copy of the MK dragon symbol and use it to replace the current screencap? Virogtheconq 04:01, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well I think they should have a small section about the arcade culture and then put an external wiki link to the Mortal Kombat Tournaments instead of merging the article into one, that would be huge and the tournaments can be independant from this article.

I would really like this pic to stay

Yes, I know it's "yours" article... I renamed it and moved for a better layout, so please? There's a free space there anyway.

Unfortunately, a GamePro cover discussing Mortal Kombat II doesn't belong on a page discussing the entire series (especially since there is no mention of GamePro anywhere on the page). If there were some article where it's appropriate, I'd have no problem with it - it's just that particular image adds nothing to the page. Virogtheconq

Okay then.

Why are: Mythologies, Special Forces, and Shaolin Monks under both fighting games and non-fighting games? Dessydes 01:30, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think they were leftovers from back when it was a list of all the games. I removed MKM:SZ and SF from the section. I haven't played SM, but from what I understand there is a small versus component, so I left it in for now. Virogtheconq 02:07, 20 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A tad questionable?

This is currently posted on the article:

Acclaim produced 2 Mortal Kombat-styled games based on the World Wrestling Federation: "WWF Wrestlemania: The Arcade Game" & "WWF In Your House". Both featured Mortal Kombat-like sprites, moves, and finishers.

Now I can't say I own either of these games. But I highly doubt this statement is wonderfully accurate. I'm aware the sprites for some of the old WWF games look digitised, but I can't quite believe the games are "Mortal Kombat-styled". Wouldn't they be, I dunno, wrestling games? Rather than beat-em-ups? And why would there be MK-like moves and finishers? I've never seen Shawn Michaels kick someone's head clean off, no matter how much the commentators say he may as well have, nor do I think Vincent "Family Entertainment" McMahon would approve of such content in a WWF/E game. Even if the games are fighting style rather than wrestling style, the text needs a rewording so its meaning is clearer. --L T Dangerous 15:08, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't own either of the games, but I've played Wrestlemania and have seen In Your House. Both games are very much extreme games that go beyond "realistic" simulation, kind of like with the backbreakers in NFL Blitz and the flaming 50 foot high slam dunks in NBA Jam. Undertaker uses a tombstone to bash the crap out of his opponent, Shawn Michaels pulls out a baseball bat from hammerspace, stuff flies out from your opponent when you hit them hard... I never thought of the similarity that way, but now that its mentioned, I think its a fair comparison... Clint 00:08, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are also MK style fatalities, not as gory as MK but still fatalities, for example, HBK summons a heartshaped bed to fall on the opponent, crushing them.

NBA JAM

I can't belive no one mention the NBA JAM crossover, so I added it.--4.250.6.88 16:14, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Arcade Championship history

I included the championship history for the MK arcade series and people are changing the names of the winners.

I'd like something done about this as I know for a definitive fact about these tournamets as I was actually the winner of the first MK tournament and I don't believe whoever is editing it is acting in good faith.

Unfortunately, there's nothing we can do about it. Provide a link and/or print source showing the results and we'll believe whatever's posted in the section - otherwise there's no proof one way or another and the section'll have to be removed.Virogtheconq 17:42, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I believe it would be very difficult to get a print source from 1993/4 about arcade tournaments, however I believe the winners were printed in an old issue of Computer and Video Games magazine which I'll try and find.

This arcade championship section has no place at wikipedia in the first place. There have been hundreds of MK tournaments over the years and people still play UMK3 and the 3D games competitively. This isn't the place for tournament results. To be honest nobody cares about a tournament 10 years ago you happened to win.

Actually no, there's only ever been 4 official tournamets as I said before.

Official in what context? Midway-sponsored?Virogtheconq 17:14, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yep apparently. I got to meet a couple of the MK Cast and Crew. "To be honest nobody cares about a tournament 10 years ago you happened to win." Sounds like somebody's jealous.

This article isn't the place for tournament results no matter how "official" they are. It's already cluttered as is. You honestly think people are coming to read this article to find out the names of people they've never heard of who won a tournament 10 years ago? MAYBE it'd something for the actual section on MK1/MK2 and it'd be a lot more interesting if there was some details on the tournament and not just "there was a championship. Here's the names of the people who won".

Dude let me put what your saying into a phrase... you think we should tell people theres stuff thats been done or won but no-one gives a crap about their name. That would be like saying "Oh some guy landed on the Moon but who gives a crap about his name."Zach 06:30, 24 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not just the names. None of it should be here.

How to fight Reptile

Some, but not complete, details were included in this page about how to fight the hidden character Reptile. I added what I think to be the complete requirements for the original arcade version ([1]).

Thrill Kill... a flop?

Thrill Kill was never released. However on this page, it claims that Thrill Kill was a flop due to excessive violence (???). I removed this due to its inaccuracy.

Comparatives

The comparatives should stay as they are (bloodier, etc.). They are a correct form, and the form that was originally there. Wikipedia policies tend to give weight to the initial variant in cases when two options are correct. --Eyrian

Well, IIRC comparatives usually are expected to have the same structure - so either use the "more ____" or "____er" form for every term, but not mixed together the way they are now. I'm not really going to argue about it, though.Virogtheconq 23:52, 9 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In this case, I think it may be a lost cause. "More Bloody" is awkward, and "brutaler" isn't a word. I think it's probably OK as it is. --Eyrian 00:15, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Would it be alright to add a story overview for each game?

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