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Baiji
100% Iraqi victory
Semi-protected edit request on 10 October 2015
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Change Albu Jalib and Albu Assaf to ISIS-control per pro-Iraqi source from October 8: http://www.mediafire.com/view/10d563txnlnzdnm https://twitter.com/HKarimi1991/status/652177136212557824 73.45.167.247 (talk) 19:07, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
- Done —Skyllfully (talk | contribs) 19:36, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
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As it currently stands, the Islamic State does not have full control over Ramadi, Iraq. As of now, Iraqi forces are advancing into the city and I recommend the black dot representing full Islamic State control over Ramadi be changed the shifting red-black dot representing a contested city. Ninjasquirrell12 (talk) 21:46, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
- Not saying I disagree with your statement, but we need a good source before we change Ramadi to contested. As far as I am aware, there has not been a major Tikrit/Kobani-style push into the city itself. The ISF have only captured the suburbs and outskirts like Albu Faraj, 8th Brigade, etc. and not parts of the city proper. This map from a Shia pro-government individual shows that only ~10% of the city proper is ISF-held. 2601:C7:8303:22DC:1DB4:BFDC:1999:782E (talk) 00:06, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
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LightandDark2000, Banak, or HCPUNXKID: please change "Tel Abu Jarad" and "Mazraa" to contested between ISF and ISIS, and change "Al Seniyah" and "Asteria" to ISIS-controlled per pro-ISF source [[1]] 2601:C7:8303:22DC:1DB4:BFDC:1999:782E (talk) 00:12, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Baiji Refinery
Based on the news, it seems Iraqi forces have taken the refinery per (I have changed the status of the refinery of the map):
--Damirgraffiti |☺What's Up?☺ 21:07, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
- Damirgraffiti, LightandDark2000, a Pro-Government al-Masdar News reports a huge Iraqi advance around Baiji. Leith Fadel claims government forces have taken Makhoul, far north of Baiji. I am skeptical of this claim. The newest Amin Akh (pro-government) map shows a big Iraqi advance as well, supported by reliable news reports here and here. I think the ISIS fighting in Al Mazraa should be shown on our map. 2601:C7:8303:22DC:1DB4:BFDC:1999:782E (talk) 02:08, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
- I will make the update right now. LightandDark2000 (talk) 04:01, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
Reportedly, Iraqi Army and Shiite militias took most of Baiji, in particular the city center and Tamim neighbourhood. "The Islamic State is said to be holed up in just a pocket of the city [..]" [2].Schluppo (talk) 19:47, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- Another reliable source says here about Baiji being fully taken: http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/10/21/world/iraq-forces-driven-islamic-state-fighters-key-refinery-town-baiji-baghdad/#.VibGHCsps-Y --Damirgraffiti |☺What's Up?☺ 22:54, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
fuck america
Please Add Roads to the maps of Irak, syria, etc
Following the news about civil war in Irak and Syria, we hear about important roads and Highwys. But we don't see them on the maps to get better oriented. Please someone add roads and highways also to the maps. Thanks! In Persian: با دنبال کردن خبر ها در باره ی جنگ درونمرزی در عراق و سوریه و .. ما همواره چیزهایی در باره ی راه ها و شاهراه های مهم میخوانیم ولی آنهارا در نقشه پیدا نمیکنیم و نمیتوانیم جا های یاد شده را بهتر بیابیم. پس خواهشمندم که راه ها و شاهراه هارا هم به این نقشه ها بیفزایید. سپاس.
Why Husaybah is red?
I really don't think, that Husaybah on the iraqi-syrian border is in the hands of the government... please put it back to black. In some news, there are reports about some explosions due to the rain in a certain town called Husaybah al-Scharqiyah ("East-Husaybah" - not eastern Husaybah), but it is surely not Husaybah on the border and surely not in possession of government. http://altaghier.tv/2015/10/29/الامطار-تفجر-35-بيتا-ملغما-وعشرات-العبوا
Ramadi
According to ISW, ISF have entered into central Ramadi. We can change Ramadi to contested if it's possible.
http://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/iraq%20SITREP%202015-11-02.pdf
--Damirgraffiti |☺What's Up?☺ 01:31, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
Dibis
According to Reuters, Peshmgera have already regained control of Dibis per http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/03/us-mideast-crisis-iraq-violence-idUSKCN0SS28X20151103--Damirgraffiti |☺What's Up?☺ 13:15, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Sinjar
Sinjar is currently under a full siege, and all the areas around Highway 47, from Syria to the outskirts of Tel Afar (at Sinu) are under Peshmerga control.
See [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8] for starters. This U.S News article confirms that the road has been cut from both sides. Want more sources? Find them yourselves; there's an entire Internet out there, and stop reverting. LightandDark2000 (talk) 11:27, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
The map has been edited multiple times without using any reliable source. It looks like Peshmerga have advanced to south Sinjar, and this is not the case as many sources report fighting north of the main road, as north as Hardan here, here, here, here. Also a reliable map is provided by De Syracuse here. 8fra0 (talk) 12:07, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
- Most of those sources are outdated in some way. Most maps, even the most accurate ones are not always right, and usually contain a mistake or two. Also, suicide bombs/car attacks do not count as actually contesting villages/towns, as those attacks can happen many miles from an active frontline. LightandDark2000 (talk) 12:11, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
- How can they be outdated if they are updated just a few hours ago? They are of course more updated than your sources which are not neutral, not reliable and also older. So please revert the changes you have made, you have even broken the 1RR rule today. 8fra0 (talk) 12:22, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
- News articles are consistently more reliable than map sources. There are 3 listed above that all corroborate the changes made. The one village that wasn't mentioned I reverted. But the rest has solid proof above. (As for your question, people domake mistakes, and not everyone receives the latest frontline news immediately.) LightandDark2000 (talk) 12:25, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
- This is a wikipedia page, not LightandDark2000 webpage, you have to discuss your editing and you can't break the rules. I asked you like 10 times to provide reliable sources or to revert you editing. NONE of the sources you provided is reliable: "the road from Sinjar to Talafar has been cut" does not mean that you can edit 10 villages between Sinjar to Talafar to Kurdish control. 8fra0 (talk) 12:36, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
- News articles are consistently more reliable than map sources. There are 3 listed above that all corroborate the changes made. The one village that wasn't mentioned I reverted. But the rest has solid proof above. (As for your question, people domake mistakes, and not everyone receives the latest frontline news immediately.) LightandDark2000 (talk) 12:25, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
- How can they be outdated if they are updated just a few hours ago? They are of course more updated than your sources which are not neutral, not reliable and also older. So please revert the changes you have made, you have even broken the 1RR rule today. 8fra0 (talk) 12:22, 12 November 2015 (UTC)