User talk:Donner60

I will be offline until November 29, 2015.

New messages, questions, comments: Put at very bottom of page, see text of this section

Please put new messages at the very bottom of the page. Thanks. Donner60 (talk) 08:39, 13 December 2012 (UTC) To clarify, the new item should not be below this message and not below the repeated message after my introductory paragraphs but at the very bottom of the page after every other item on the page. It will help me to understand what you are talking about to add a section heading, identify the article you are concerned with (if your question or comment refers to a specific article), using a link, probably putting the article title in the heading, and sign your edit with four tildes (~~~~) so I know to whom to reply. Keep an eye on this page because I may just reply here if the answer is simple and does not seem to be time sensitive. When I notice an out of order question or comment, I will move it to the bottom of the page and provide a heading if there is none already. Donner60 (talk) 22:32, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia policies, guidelines; twitter, facebook; what Wikipedia is not; avoiding common mistakes

References to Wikipedia policies, guidelines, instructions, include:
Wikipedia:Manual of Style. Wikipedia guidelines on twitter, facebook: Wikipedia:Twitter. Wikipedia guidelines, policies on external links: Wikipedia:External links. See Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, which includes not a dictionary, a publisher of original thought, a soapbox or means of promotion, a mirror or a repository of links, images, or media files, a blog, Web hosting service, social networking service, or memorial site, a directory, a manual, guidebook, textbook, or scientific journal, a crystal ball, a newspaper, or an indiscriminate collection of information. • Wikipedia:Verifiability. • Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. • Wikipedia:No original research. • Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. • Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources. • Wikipedia:Citing sources. • Wikipedia:Notability. • Wikipedia:Image use policy. • Wikipedia:Avoiding common mistakes. • Wikipedia:Vandalism. • Wikipedia:Categorization#Articles. • Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Islam-related articles.

User Talk page guidelines

Excerpts Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines#User talk pages While the purpose of article talk pages is to discuss the content of articles, the purpose of user talk pages is to draw the attention or discuss the edits of a user. Wikipedia is not a social networking site, and all discussion should ultimately be directed solely toward the improvement of the encyclopedia.

Users may freely remove comments from their own talk pages, though archiving is preferred. They may also remove some content in archiving. The removal of a warning is taken as evidence that the warning has been read by the user. This specifically includes both registered and unregistered users.

There are certain types of notices that users may not remove from their own talk pages, such as declined unblock requests and speedy deletion tags. See Wikipedia:User pages#Removal of comments, notices, and warnings for full details.

User talk pages are subject to the general userpage guidelines on handling inappropriate content—see Wikipedia:User pages#Handling inappropriate content.

• Personal talk page cleanup: On your own user talk page, you may archive threads at your discretion. Simply deleting others' comments on your talk page is permitted, but most editors prefer archiving.

From the section Editing comments, Other's comments in Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines:

• Fixing format errors that render material difficult to read. In this case, restrict the edits to formatting changes only and preserve the content as much as possible. Examples include fixing indentation levels, removing bullets from discussions that are not consensus polls or requests for comment (RfC), fixing list markup, using <nowiki> and other technical markup to fix code samples, and providing wikilinks if it helps in better navigation.
• Fixing layout errors: This could include moving a new comment from the top of a page to the bottom, adding a header to a comment not having one, repairing accidental damage by one party to another's comments, correcting unclosed markup tags that mess up the entire page's formatting, accurately replacing HTML table code with a wikitable, etc.
• Sectioning: If a thread has developed new subjects, it may be desirable to split it into separate discussions with their own headings or subheadings. When a topic is split into two topics, rather than sub-sectioned, it is often useful for there to be a link from the new topic to the original and vice versa. A common way of doing this is noting the change at the [then-]end of the original thread, and adding an unobtrusive note under the new heading, e.g., :<small>This topic was split off from [[#FOOBAR]], above.</small>. Some reformatting may be necessary to maintain the sense of the discussion to date and to preserve attribution. It is essential that splitting does not inadvertently alter the meaning of any comments. very long discussions may also be divided into sub-sections.

Note that it is proper to use <nowiki> and other technical markup to fix code samples.

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Please put messages, questions or comments at the very bottom of the page. If you put them here (immediately before or after this paragraph), as some people have done, I may either not see them or more likely not see them very promptly. That will delay any reply from me to you. To clarify, this should not be below this message but at the very bottom of the page after every other item on the page. It will help me to understand what you are talking about to add a section heading, identify the article you are concerned with, and use a link, (if your question or comment refers to a specific article), probably putting the article name in the heading, and sign your edit with four tildes (~~~~) so I know to whom to reply. Keep an eye on this page because I may just reply here if the answer is simple and does not seem to be time sensitive. When I notice an out of order question or comment, I will move it to the bottom of the page and provide a heading if there is none already. Donner60 (talk) 22:32, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

If you put something here or other than at the bottom of the page despite the above request, and can not find it, and assuming it was not vandalism or abuse, it is probably at the bottom of the page under what I think is an appropriate heading, probably related to an article name in the comment. ..................….

Disambiguation link and bracket bot notifications

I occasionally get one of these notices. I fix the link or bracket, then delete the message, as the messages state is permissible, instead of further cluttering up these pages. Donner60 (talk) 05:13, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
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Niraj Goel

Hi Donner60 apologies in advance for any process errors I make in my communication. I know from direct real world experience that the current comments on Niraj Goel's page are lies. The person in question has paid for weak news content to boost their google search for the purposes of defrauding investors. I say this not to slander but to protect potential victims. If actual facts (the edits I made) are valued less than supported lies I suggest that defeats the whole ethos of Wikipedia. Kind regards, facts are great. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Factsaregreat (talk • contribs) 03:33, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

You removed many positive statements about Niraj Goel without any showing that they were erroneous. Then you added negative content without a single citation. If these are really such well known facts, surely you can cite some reliable, verifiable source that can back them up. Otherwise, all we have is your word for it and no one knows if your edits are made because they are true or because you have some sort of grudge against this person. As information, you may find the following pages have useful information about Wikipedia: Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources, Help:Footnotes, Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:No original research, Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, Getting started; Introduction to Wikipedia; Wikipedia:Simplified ruleset; and Wikipedia:Simplified Manual of Style. Help:Contents provides guidance and links to pages were help can be requested. Also see Wikipedia:Teahouse. Thank you. Donner60 (talk) 03:54, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Fine, I will just have to wait until the "mainstream" media reports the case. Easy enough to arrange. The facts are erroneous and the sources are laughably weak. The "Times of India" and "Indian Diaspora" are pay for play rags and those are being used to support 90% of the claims including him being a billionaire. A former employee was tasked with creating the page in the first place - hardly impartial. For various reasons what has happened is being kept under the radar. Don't take my word for it though, please feel free to contact anyone at his associated companies, as well as the MAS and CAD authorities in Singapore. I respect the wiki process so won't make any further edits but the reality is the system has been gamed and he is using the front of wiki respectability to help him steal money from people. Whether you believe what I say or not the page is full of lies, which in my mind outweighs an ethical concerns sources. Kind regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Factsaregreat (talk • contribs) 04:19, 15 October 2015 (UTC) I'm still waiting for a reply. Disappointing you prefer "valid" lies to actual truth.

I did not think your comment called for a reply. You make a few other unsourced comments and conclude that you will wait until there are mainstream reports. That seems to leave the matter where it is for the time being. I repeat that at this point it is your word against sourced content or previously unchallenged content that is not shown to be wrong. You make allegations against certain publications (at least one of which is a rather well known source) but do not back this up by any source, even a biased one. Wikipedia does not work by contacting people to get other unsourced reports, if that is what you mean. Again, see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons, Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources, Help:Footnotes, Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:No original research, Wikipedia:Neutral point of view among the pages I cited above. I suggest you wait until you can cite a reliable, verifiable, neutral source before further editing the article or further carrying on a discussion which can only lead to the same conclusions unless sources are cited. Donner60 (talk) 09:03, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Sources don't make something truthful they just make it sourced. I know Bloomberg will be writing it up soon so will come back to edit then. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Factsaregreat (talk • contribs) 21:18, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

OK. Donner60 (talk) 22:55, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Adeiny Hechavarria misunderstanding

Hi, I got a message saying you removed an unsourced link from the page Adeiny Hechavarria that was from this IP address but I don't ever recall making an edit to that page. I've never even heard of Adeiny Hechavarria.66.87.82.228 (talk) 02:18, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

There are several possibilities including that someone used your computer during an unguarded moment, someone hijacked your internet access in a public place and a few others. A few unexplained edits have been reported in the past. There is no doubt that this IP address was used because the identification process is automated. If it does not happen again, I would not worry about it. Donner60 (talk) 02:47, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Question about editing

Can I be on this site if I'm just a normal uk citizen earning a normal wage in a normal job? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.216.226.73 (talk) 21:38, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

I made a reply and left a list of links to helpful Wikipedia advice and policy pages on your talk page. Donner60 (talk) 02:47, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Question about External Link Section

I have observed few organization pages having social profile links such as Facebook & twitter. Can I remove such links? Please help me with what kind of tag should be used so that, it will get auto deleted in case any one tries to add such links violating wiki guidelines

--Deepak HM 06:15, 16 October 2015 (UTC)Deepakhmwiki — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deepakhmwiki (talk • contribs)

Please see Wikipedia:External links especially in the Links normally to be avoided section in particular for a listing of social media sites to be avoided as external links:

"10. Social networking sites (such as Myspace, Facebook, LinkedIn, and Instagram), chat or discussion forums/groups (such as Yahoo! Groups), Twitter feeds, Usenet newsgroups or e-mail lists."

"11. Blogs, personal web pages and most fansites, except those written by a recognized authority. (This exception for blogs, etc., controlled by recognized authorities is meant to be very limited; as a minimum standard, recognized authorities who are individuals always meet Wikipedia's notability criteria for people.)"

Although the official guidelines are in Wikipedia:External links, the essay in Wikipedia:External links/Perennial websites has a useful explanation. Wikipedia:External links/Noticeboard and a few pages linked on that page are pages where questions about external links can be asked]].

I know of no way to tag a page to automatically keep such links from being added again. As far as I know, pages simply needed to be watched or recent changes to pages need to be watched. You might want to ask your question on the noticeboard.

You also may find the following pages have useful information about Wikipedia: Wikipedia:Notability, Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources, Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:No original research, Wikipedia:Neutral point of view,Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, Getting started; Introduction to Wikipedia; Wikipedia:Simplified ruleset; and Wikipedia:Simplified Manual of Style. Help:Contents and Wikipedia:Questions provide guidance and links to pages where help can be requested on various subjects Thank you. Donner60 (talk) 07:20, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Espresso Martini

What 'factual error' am I supposed to have introduced to the article? 85.229.48.166 (talk) 21:32, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

In anticipation of the questioning you expected, you explained the edit and I missed it. Sorry for the mistake. I rolled back my edit to your version and deleted the message on your talk page. Donner60 (talk) 21:40, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Lumber River

The name of the Lumber River is Lumber River, it is not the Lumbee River. What was included was not inncorrect http://www.rivers.gov/rivers/lumber.php

2602:306:BD5B:44E0:D824:F9E2:131:FD3C (talk) 01:57, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

My mistake. I should have checked that instead of relying on a recollection which you have shown is incorrect. I will roll back my edit if it has not been corrected and will delete the message on your talk page. Thanks for pointing this out. Donner60 (talk) 02:24, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Steatoda

Regarding the size of the Steatoda species - I actually have a false widow sitting here in a pot that I caught last night in the toilet & was trying to find info on it and straight away found that the size details are incorrect. The one sitting here which has been identified by true spider keepers and multiple pictures has a 30-35mm leg span, way over what is stated on any of the Steatoda sp. pages. I can TRY sort out a picture of a tape measure under it, just getting it to sit still for long enough is a bit of a nightmare let alone with its legs out-streched showing the full size but can give it a shot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lenette 001 (talk • contribs) 10:57, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

I have been offline for several days due to illness and travel. In answer, I think this would be original research contrary to Wikipedia editing guidelines. You should cite a reliable, verifiable source for the fact that these can grow to larger sizes. I think one of the cited articles actually says something about these possibly growing to 3 cm., but, sorry to say, I did not take note of it and could not readily find the story. So I can believe your change but I still think you need to provide a source - and that such source can be found. Please see Wikipedia:Citing sources; Help:Footnotes; Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources, Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:No original research, Wikipedia:Neutral point of view,Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, Getting started; Introduction to Wikipedia; Wikipedia:Simplified ruleset; and Wikipedia:Simplified Manual of Style. Thank you. Donner60 (talk) 02:53, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Disruptive?

Hi. Can you please tell me how my most recent edit to Hell in a Cell (2015) is disruptive? I directly quoted that from 411mania.com. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thatwweguy 619 (talk • contribs) 02:33, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Deleted my message, added comment and links on sourcing and footnotes. Donner60 (talk) 02:43, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Change in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Leslie_Goodwin

Hey Donner

I just got your message regarding my "test". It actually was a wrong citation. "Possibly 2nd class" even tho in the original it's "Probably 3rd class":

Number 4: http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/description-of-recovered-titanic-bodies.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:1205:5020:5F70:A984:D9B5:728D:131F (talk) 21:13, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

I am deleting my original message on your talk page because you were actually trying to correct an error. However, it seems to me that you need to cite the more specific web page of http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/titanic-victim/sidney-leslie-goodwin.html. The general page that you referred to on my talk page does not appear to contain enough information to support the change. Assuming you agree, please make the change (but not in all capital letters) and add this more specific citation. If you do not agree, let me know so we can consider it further. Thank you. Donner60 (talk) 21:26, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Colonial India

Deleted uncivil and uninformed message but left reply and helpful links on user's talk page.

Thank you for giving a polite answer. I understand that I have acted not in a civil manner previously, and I would like to apologize for it. I understand that there are rules and I wish to follow them. What disturbed me was that after a mistake was bought into attention by my horrible editing, the same mistake was put back again. But I really appreciate you replying in a polite manner which I didn't expect. I am extremely sorry for my previous behaviour and for all the inconvenience that I have caused you. I will go through each and every link that you have posted and will make sure I don't repeat this behaviour of mine again. Thank you for being patient. I really appreciate the way you have handled the situation. Sorry again for my misconduct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soumo1989 (talk • contribs) 02:42, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Left this message on your talk page; copied here to keep the threads together.

I appreciate your reply. If we are making our best efforts as editors, it is to explain Wikipedia to new users and to bring them in to make constructive edits in the future. That does not work if one does not try to explain the many policies and guidelines which most people would not know exist unless they are told about them. There is no need to argue with people who are trying to act in good faith. We need to all be on the same page and try to understand and work out any differences. I am always glad when someone becomes more familiar with the project and continues to work on it.

While we may give some presumption to existing text, there is no doubt that sometimes it needs to be modified or replaced and, if challenged, citations need to be given.

I actually did take a few minutes to research this issue and found this: Wills, Jr., John E. The World from 1450 to 1700. New York, Oxford University Press, 2009. ISBN 978-0-19-533797-6. Page 39. "After the conquest of Goa, Albuquerque had encouraged his men to marry widows of fallen members of the Muslim garrison; we might wonder what the ladies thought about being treated as part of the conquerors’ loot. Albuquerque’s action often is seen as a sign of a relatively relaxed Portuguese attitude to racial mixing, and the result all along this coast and in Sri Lanka was the emergence of a substantial “Indo-Portuguese” population, mixed in racial heritage and Catholic in religion, uniquely blending heritages of culture and custom." Retrieved October 29, 2015.  – via Questia (subscription required) . Of course, we do not know whether the original author got the idea for the disputed language from this or from some other source. It may, or perhaps may only partially, support the sentence at issue. Also, I think you may be more concerned with a more limited group of people who seem to be included by the general language and perhaps should not be. Donner60 (talk) 03:15, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Halloween cheer!

Happy Halloween!

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Hello Donner60:
Thanks for all of your contributions to improve Wikipedia, and have a happy and enjoyable Halloween!
    – --I am k6ka ^{Talk to me!} _{See what I have done} 00:01, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Send Halloween cheer by adding {{subst:Happy Halloween}} to user talk pages with a friendly message.

Hey Donner60! It's been a while since we chatted, so I wanted to wish you a spooooooooky Halloween! --I am k6ka ^{Talk to me!} _{See what I have done} 00:01, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! Donner60 (talk) 09:48, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Boole

Hi. Yes i just made a minor edit (delink) then a vandal interjected, Everything seems to be in order. The article probably needs a 24 hour lock. Cheers.RyanTQuinn (talk) 03:40, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. Donner60 (talk) 09:06, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Anna Rezan

Remove Anna Rezan page. It does not belong on Wiki. She is a no name actress, looks like it was written by her PR person. Very, very bad bio. Homemade crap Bellatarr (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:02, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Remove Anna Rezan page. It does not belong on Wiki. She is a no name actress, looks like it was written by her PR person. Very, very bad bio. Homemade crap Bellatarr (talk)

A page cannot be deleted simply because a reader/user/editor does not like it or like the subject of the page or because it is poorly written. (I can agree that the page is not up to Wikipedia quality and has some puffery, at least, but that is cause for someone who is interested in improving the article editing the page, not for its deletion. I have tagged the page for cleanup.) The article has sources which appear to be neutral and reliable. I am not an administrator and cannot delete the page in any event. The page does not meet the criteria for criteria for speedy deletion. I checked a source and it was not copyrighted. If any material violates a copyright from any other sources, that material could be deleted without going through a deletion process. The source of the copyrighted material should be identified in the edit summary or on the talk page with a mention in the edit summary so the removal can be verified as legitimate. See Wikipedia:Copyright Problems and Wikipedia:Copyright violations. Otherwise, if you wish to have the page deleted, you must proceed under the procedures shown in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. For criteria, see: Wikipedia:Deletion policy. Given the subject's notice by the sources cited on the page, I think you might have difficulty establishing she is not notable under the general notability guidelines but you are welcome to try. See Wikipedia:Notability (people).

Other Wikipedia policy or guideline pages that may be useful to you in editing or writing for Wikipedia include: Wikipedia:List of policies; Wikipedia:List of guidelines; The five pillars of Wikipedia; Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources, Help:Footnotes, Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:No original research, Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, Getting started; Introduction to Wikipedia; Wikipedia:Simplified ruleset; and Wikipedia:Simplified Manual of Style. Help:Contents provides guidance and links to pages where help can be requested. Please remember to sign your messages on talk pages (but not article edits) by typing four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. Thank you. Donner60 (talk) 09:06, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

User MetlifeWP

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Incidents#Gibberish_edits_by_disruptive_but_well_meaning_editor. Thank you. You helped clean up MetLifeWP's nonsense edits, so I thought you might like to comment on this. Andyjsmith (talk) 14:23, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

References

I'm new on Wikipedia....having trouble adding refs...haven't figured it out yet.....I have the refs — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcbstudent (talk • contribs) 04:25, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

I left some links on your talk page to Wikipedia pages that give help and guidance for editing and writing for Wikipedia. In particular, as to references, see Help:Referencing for beginners; Help:Footnotes; Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources and Wikipedia:Verifiability. Donner60 (talk) 04:38, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

I'm still having trouble adding shpack landfill refs...I'm working on it...Please know as creator of the page I think you did a great job...If you want to help me add the refs it would make the page even better....I'd like to start by adding links to the original NRC investigation report; the link for Oak Ridge's 1981 report; Bechtel's 1984 report; obituaries for Vannevar Bush and Carroll Wilson.....on the clean up section of the article there is new info....the site clean up was completed in 2012 50,000 cubic yards of contaminated material shipped to Clive Utah....Shpack site is also now covered by Energy Employees Compensation Act relating to cancer victim compensation — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcbstudent (talk • contribs) 18:38, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

I left this message on your talk page: I did not create the page. I only came across your edit while reviewing recent (which is to say almost current) changes. It seems you have put much additional work into it and others have also made some edits. I encourage you to review again Help:Referencing for beginners, Help:Footnotes and perhaps even Wikipedia:Avoiding common mistakes because it seems you are still having some problems with footnote and reference formats. Since I am not familiar with the references, or even the article as a whole, unless I come across a problem that seems to need immediate correction, I will leave it to you and the others who have worked on the article to finish the work on it. If you have a more specific question, especially about the citations, let me know and I will try to give an answer as best as I can as promptly as I can. Donner60 (talk) 01:38, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Hey

On the WITS Academy page, It's Peter Lopez, not Peter Dager as Harris. Read the end of WITS Academy credits.

-OmgBunnies

OmgBunnies (talk) 01:06, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

I have deleted my original message on your talk page and left some useful links to Wikipedia guideline, policy and style pages on your talk page in the event you are not familiar with them. I hope you will continue to contribute to Wikipedia. Donner60 (talk) 04:39, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Re: November 2015

Hi,

My edit of 'Gallipolli, Apulia' was not as a test but instead was intended to be a meaningful addition of content referring to an oft-visited location in the city.

Thanks! Techguy248 (talk) 02:28, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

I have deleted the message on your user page because your comment indicates you are in good faith. I have not restored the edit because the individual mentioned is not shown as notable with a link to a Wikipedia article about him (and the mention does not appear pertinent in any event). I left some links to Wikipedia style, guideline and policy pages which can be useful in writing for or editing Wikipedia. Donner60 (talk) 02:39, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Litótrofos

Hi, Donner60. I did realized that I was using the English version of Wikipedia til I got the message that was needed to be translated. I have already transferred all the information written to the Spanish version. Thanks for your great job, and sorry for the inconvenience. I just wanted to erase the input. Have a nice evening. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mario j vaughan (talk • contribs) 02:20, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

I explained why — Preceding unsigned comment added by IncredulousAtonomy (talk • contribs) 02:25, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	thank you for reverting my mistake Jonnymoon96 (talk) 03:37, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I have deleted my original message on your talk page since you obviously made a mistake (also shown by past history). The barnstar is appreciated although I must say that a simple thanks and explanation would have been enough. Happy editing. Donner60 (talk) 03:52, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi

Hi,my name is Marco chali,can you help me to put my info in wikiPedia,coz i dont Know how put all those details,sorry for anythin bro, Thanx Marco M Chali (talk) 03:43, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

It is curious that you know how to create user and user talk links without creating the corresponding pages so I suspect you know more than you say you do. It is also curious that you found this particular page, which is not on any help page, with your first edit. Donner60 (talk) 03:47, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Your Fitness Club - Koregaon Park

Hey Donner,

      Greeting of the Day,

            i have Edited the Koregaon Park Wikipedia Page with More Information Like Health Club Or Gym where People Can do Workout Daily.. I have Taken the Membership from the Your Fitness Club in Koregaon Park Branch & i love the place & environment .. !! Worth of Time & Money

Hope other People will also Enjoy this

Thanks in Advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.63.226.135 (talk) 04:45, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Your only addition is #Your Fitness Club. Even if this was a proper addition, it gives the reader no real information. As information about this not being a proper addition, please see Wikipedia:External links/Perennial websites#Twitter. Also, please see Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion and Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a directory. I will put some other helpful links on your talk page. Donner60 (talk) 04:55, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Editing page on Bifurcation Theory

Hi Donner60, you removed my edit on the page for bifurcations because you thought it was a test. It was not a test and the edit I made was a needed correction. The page lists a Neimark bifurcation but in fact the most used convention is Neimark-Sacker. Try googling Neimark bifurcation to see for yourself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.207.109.159 (talk) 23:46, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

In view of your explanation, I deleted my message on your talk page, left some helpful links to Wikipedia pages if you are not familiar with them and rolled back my edit so that yours is now the last edit to the article. I hope you will continue to contribute to Wikipedia. Sorry for my misunderstanding. Donner60 (talk) 23:56, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Editing page on Wolf–Rayet star

Hi Donner60, you removed my edit on the page for Wolf–Rayet stars because you thought it was a test. It was not a test and the edit was a needed correction. The page lists the latitude of the Wolf–Rayet star Gamma 2 Velorum as northern but in fact it is southern. Try googling Gamma 2 Velorum to see for yourself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.10.181.234 (talk) 23:52, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

I am sorry for the mistake. I deleted my message on your talk page, rolled back my edit so that yours is now the last one on the page, and left some links to helpful Wikipedia pages in case you are not familiar with them. I hope you continue to edit Wikipedia. Thank you for your contribution. Donner60 (talk) 00:13, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. Just working to make Wikipedia better one word at a time. :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.10.181.234 (talk) 00:26, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

editing on Portola California

can you redo the posting? here are the sources...

Ronald "Jake" Jacobson http://freestyle.usskiteam.com/freestyle-programs/athletes/development/aerials https://usagym.org/PDFs/T&T/National%20Teams/tt_1314_srnationalteam.pdf

Tucker Larrieu http://tuckerlarrieu.com/ http://xgames.espn.go.com/xgames/athletes/3893026/tucker-larrieu

Mario Rodriguez http://www.wmubroncos.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=206293164 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.89.251.168 (talk) 03:21, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

I left a message on your talk page in which I explained that I would add the Mario Rodriguez entry but gave reasons why I could not add the other two. This should give you an example of formatting. I left comments which state what would be satisfactory sourcing to add the other two. I left some links to Wikipedia pages which can help you to write for or edit Wikipedia. Donner60 (talk) 03:49, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

here are more links to prove those two people

Ronald "Jake" Jacobson https://www.usagym.org/pages/athletes/athleteListDetail.html?id=126517

Tucker Larrieu http://www.hookit.com/members/tucker158/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.89.251.168 (talk) 03:44, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Just got your new message as I was posting my message above. I will check these and get back to you. Donner60 (talk) 03:49, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

I left this message on your talk page: I will piece together the additional information that you provided. I think that the three entries will be acceptable with this information. I hope you will review the pages above and contribute to Wikipedia in the future. Donner60 (talk) 03:53, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Editing page on Samaritan Hebrew

Hi Donner60, I changed from: "in Holon (in what today has become the State of Israel) or in Schechem (i.e. Nablus, located in the West Bank, in the area known as the Palestinian territories)" to: "in Holon (in the State of Israel) or in Schechem (i.e. Nablus, in the State of Palestine)" in order to render the sentence perfectly balanced and as NPOV as possible. The latter seems less distracting too. I didn't see this edit as a problem since the entry "State of Palestine" already existed in WP, even though I'm aware that this status is not recognised by everyone. And finally, the phrasing "in what today has become the State of Israel" sounds like defining Israel something recent or artificial. In other words: none of the two nations was correctly described. If you agree, could you please restore my editing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.73.132.144 (talk) 03:32, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

I agree. I have restored your edit, deleted my original message and placed some useful links on your talk page in case you are not familiar with them. Donner60 (talk) 03:49, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for both things! --151.73.132.144 (talk) 03:53, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Erik Bergquist

I am Erik Bergquist and very little of that information is varifyable - besides screen credit for Fast and The Furious. Please do not put up unverified or incorrect info about me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hazlnut (talk • contribs) 04:29, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Your message to me a few minutes ago seems to refer to my message of six days ago. I checked the article in view of your message and current blanking of the page and found that only one of the sources exists. I suggest you not blank the entire page if your edit is questioned again, since a bare minimum of information is apparently true. Page blanking is a red flag for reviewers. I will not revert your current edit or edits in view of the lack of verifiable sources due to dead links and your concern but I can only speak for myself. (I am not an administrator.)

If you are unable to get the article changed through the editing process, which sometimes happens, please see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Help. Also relevant may be Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons, Wikipedia:Deletion policy and Wikipedia:Articles for Deletion. Donner60 (talk) 04:48, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Jatli

hi donner 60

those information was passed to me by my grandparents as i am the resident of that village since birth 56 year old please reconsider and remain the changes on the page of JATLI — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.68.74.193 (talk) 03:04, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

I deleted my original message on your talk page. I added further comment and explanation on your talk page. I also added links to helpful Wikipedia pages. Donner60 (talk) 03:16, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

New citation for your approval

Still working on removing speculation from my first submission, per your directions. Wish to add the following brief passages, cited from hard historical sources: From Historical Papers and Addresses of the Lancaster County ..., Volumes 26-27: From Page 234: 2.--John Grubb, son of Henry of Stoke Climsland, settled at Upland, Chester County, Pa., before 1679. He married Frances Vane. ... 3.--Peter Grubb, the first, son of John and Frances Vane Grubb. .... (End excerpt from Source) Camikympy22 (talk) 04:24, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

This looks like a good source. I have left a detailed reply on your talk page. I am sorry I did not see the comment there earlier. My reply is not complete. I will reply further as promptly. Thank you for your work on this and your patience. Donner60 (talk) 04:54, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

Ringtone External Link Edit

Hi Donner60,

I'm Nick. Nice to meet you :) Just wanted to drop a note about the link you censored on the Ringtones page as advertising / marketing. I'm the researcher, developer and designer of the of the blocked resource. The site was developed commercially, but I think it's genuinely awesome and adds value to the Ringtones page and the Wikipedia community. It wasn't posted on Wikipedia for any commercial gain, though I confess it would be cool to have something i built to be on Wikipedia! Visitors to the resource can access audio files of Monophonic and Polyphonic ringtones from the the most popular cell phone models since 1983, listen to the top 10 ringtones for purchase from 2005-2013, and listen to pre-cell phone "ringtones" like what the first phone call sounded like and the ringtone a crank phone made. I really hope you'll check it out and reconsider. It's a truly unique site and it continues to grow with the help of submissions from users in the spirit of Wikipedia itself. Please let me know your thoughts. Any communication is welcome :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:4A:4200:F700:D472:3BC9:22DD:31BE (talk) 16:22, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

I will look into this further and get back to you soon. My first thought is that it might be best to get another opinion or two. Donner60 (talk) 02:19, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

I have looked at this again. Even though the linked page arguably could be an external link, I believe the page would better fit and be less controversial as a footnote to statements in the History section of the Wikipedia Ringtone page. This may require the addition of a sentence or two to that section to make a better fit. I will try to do that tomorrow (actually now later today) unless you wish to do so before I get to it. (By the way, if I get tied up on Saturday, I will be offline for the next 7 or 8 days as well.) I have taken into account that SAS does not sell ringtones, there is no direct link to the SAS page (though I suppose few people do not realize they can get to a page by clicking on a logo), that iTunes already is mentioned in the Wikipedia article and that no sales pitch is made on the SAS ringtone page. I was concerned that the ability to link to iTunes might be considered advertising but the lack of affiliation and of a sales pitch seems to me to make the inclusion non-controversial. I now agree that the linked page adds some value to the History section of the article. Donner60 (talk) 06:11, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Super! Thanks for the consideration Donner and taking the time to review the resource. The iTunes links on the page are only for users to be able to play the ringtones (no commercial value) & SAS does not sell ringtones. Always interesting to have a conversation with a Wikipedia moderator BTW. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.94.16.230 (talk) 04:38, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

I have added a sentence to the history sentence and used the ringtone web page as a citation. You should feel free to edit the sentence or paragraph, of course, if you think of an improvement. Donner60 (talk) 05:02, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Cemile Sultan

Why it is forbidden to wrote her children and descendants? I give the source you can see... https://archive.org/stream/GenealogyOfTheImperialOttomanFamily2005#page/n13/mode/2up

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Nalanidil (talk • contribs) 00:04, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

I deleted my original message, left an explanation on your talk page and provided useful editing links. I will restore your edit and properly footnote it, but I cannot say that others will not review it for other reasons. Donner60 (talk) 00:14, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Valencian Community

Hi Donner60,

I am wondering why you decided to revert my edit made to Valencian Community Wikipedia page?. Adding an informative colloquialism never can create harm. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.84.2.66 (talk) 02:16, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

"Vaginal Wart". Seriously? Donner60 (talk) 02:26, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Valencian Community

What did I do wrong?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.84.2.66 (talk) 02:22, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Again, you changed "Valencian" to "Vaginal Wart". Seriously? I will consider any further such sarcastic postings on this page as vandalism. Donner60 (talk) 02:26, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Conversion of non-muslim places of worship into mosques

Actually, I removed one of my own original contributions. An entire section of edit was removed indiscriminately and I restored it, removing a disputed section referring to places of worship that were not, in fact, converted to mosques. I don't see how that warranted removal of the entire edited section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CD15:A770:3401:8514:6BCB:851B (talk) 02:58, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

I deleted my original message on your talk page in the manner prescribed by Wikipedia guidelines (strike through) because it was in error. You have pointed out that the edit was part of a series of edits intended to improve the article. I saw it as a stand-alone edit and did not notice the prior edit. I saw only the last changes with the program I used (not an excuse) but should have look at the list of edits more carefully. Sorry for the mistake. I hope this will not discourage you from continuing to edit Wikipedia. I have restored the article so that your last edit is now the last edit to the article. Please review this to be sure that it is the final version that you intend and, if not, make any other changes accordingly. I added some useful links to Wikipedia format, policy and guideline pages to your talk page in case you are not familiar with them. Donner60 (talk) 03:09, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

SENPAI NOTICE ME IM UR BIGGEST FAN I LOVE UR CONTRIBUTIONS 2 THIS FABULOS WEBSITE SND I LUV U A MIOLLION!!0010100000000000000 merpmerpmerpmerp — Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.107.193.203 (talk) 00:16, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

HI, thank you for the information you posted for me on my talk page. It is very helpful and it will take me some time to look through the links you provided. I do not know what this tmeplate is you mention, "I am leaving the help template in place" so I cannot delete it, but I hope that the information you provided stays visible to me on my talk page so I can reference it. thanks again for your help. Klossoke

ArbCom elections are now open!

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Shpack landfill

I am still have trouble adding even the simplest references such as those from the Wall Street Journal's Wastelands series pertaining to radioactive waste sites linked to the cold war. There is a problem with Wikipedia's un-editability not me. In the mean time this site was contaminated with 85 tons of uranium linked to a thousand cancer victims or their survivors who have been compensated under the Energy Employees Compensation Act. You may be concerned about my inability to add references to a non-functional HTML package, my concern are all the people who died. The unedited article is a feel good, sanitized version of the facts that doesn't come close to conveying the facts or magnitude of the environmental problem that existed. I'd just as soon pay somebody to re-write this article.....JCB student — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jcbstudent (talk • contribs) 03:07, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

When I go to edit on the shpack landfill page none of the links shown below appear as an option. The info below taken from Wikipedia instructions on editing

There are different templates suitable for different types of sources:

{{cite web}}: Empty citation (help) for references to general websites {{cite news}}: Empty citation (help) for newspapers and news websites {{cite book}}: Empty citation (help) for references to books {{cite journal}}: Empty citation (help) for magazines, academic journals and papers