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Tough Solar

Did you try a search on Tough Solar? It leads to a whole family of unsourced ads for Casio products. Dozens of them, maybe hundreds. The whole lot should be speedy deleted. I don't even know how you would go about cleaning up this kind of mess. Kendall-K1 (talk) 16:08, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ouch. I just checked two randomly picked "articles" Casio CTK-401 and Casio EX-S20. Not much there, but I don't see which criteria_for_speedy_deletion would be unquestionably appropriate. I can also imagine that the same goes for other types of obsolete HP and TI calculators (and/or watches) though. Tough call. - DVdm (talk) 16:34, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I was thinking G11, but my guess is these would actually have to all go through AfD, and that would be impractical. I wonder if there is any kind of bulk AfD process. Is there a spam noticeboard or Village Pump section where someone would know? Or I could just try to ignore this... Kendall-K1 (talk) 16:58, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hm... perhaps opening a little section with a request for advice at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam? - DVdm (talk) 18:18, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Neutron Star

With due respect, I did not vandalize the pages but added relevant information on the topics. No need to be upset with me on undo it, unless you are sure you know better. Again, please do not be upset. I understand your concern. Thanks. Bfaster (talk) 03:07, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am not upset and I did not say that you vandalized. I am just making sure that Wikipedia does not get flooded (Special:Contributions/Bfaster) with promotional links to a special purpose account's personal work. References are supposed to link a particular part of our articles to a particular page in a book. If your book is indeed used to add content, then surely someone else will refer to it. Starting again while being logged out (Special:Contributions/173.74.73.150) is not a good idea. See WP:Sock puppetry . - DVdm (talk) 10:07, 29 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to a research survey

Hello DVdm, I am Qi Wu, a computer science MS student at the University of Minnesota - Twin Cities. Currently, we are working on a project studying the main article and sub article relationship in a purpose of better serving the Wikipedia article structure. It would be appreciated if you could take 4-5 minutes to finish the survey questions. Thanks in advance! We will not collect any of your personally information.

Thank you for your time to participate this survey. Your response is important for us!

https://umn.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_bvm2A1lvzYfJN9H — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wuqi333444 (talkcontribs) 30 November 2015 01:53 (UTC)

Please sign all your talk page messages with four tildes (~~~~). Thanks. - DVdm (talk) 08:30, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tidal force removal of edit

I only added examples of the abstractly numbered bodies, these examples were taken from the previous sentence. Editing in these examples I think increased readability. I might have misunderstood the first body to be the tidal water from the previous sentence, but I don't think I have. I reverted to my version. If the case is that I'm wrong I would like to know what the "first body" refers to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wojje (talkcontribs) 30 November 2015‎ 15:22 (UTC)

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Read the sentence that you are editing ([1]). It is about "the perturbing force on the Moon" (ON the moon) and a colon follows it. - DVdm (talk) 15:27, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I see. Thank you. Wojje (talk) 22:11, 30 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dropbox

I have e-mail traffic and result. You can see them at the link below in anonymized way:

https://www.dropboxforum.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/202835839-I-d-like-to-cancel-my-PRO-payment-and-get-refund-my-charge-?page=1#community_comment_205940256

If you wish, I may share e-mails with their headers. 193.140.70.19 (talk) 14:35, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Please sign all your talk page messages with four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your message. Thanks.
Email traffic, blogs and comments are not reliable sources—see wp:Verifiability. Furthermore, the comment you pointed to, does not back what you wrote here. - DVdm (talk) 14:46, 2 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry but I have not any personal problems with Dropbox. Dropbox has problems with LAWS. I've said I can provide my e-mail traffic. You said "No". I've provided a link to Dropbox forum. You said "No". What do you expect from me to prove Dropbox's lawlessness? A signed form from Dropbox saying that "well, yes, we do not care laws. Sincerely". How about this? In Wikipedia, some famous people has bad reputation texts. And you've guessed correctly, those texts usually have not any proof or are not from reliable sources. They are possibly gossips. Like humans, the companies may have bad reputation. Please do not delete my addition once more. If you do so, I will add them again until you give up deleting or make this topic controlled. I repeat once more: "I have not any personal problems with Dropbox. Dropbox has problems with LAWS".193.140.70.19 (talk) 17:13, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The source does not say that Dropbox has problems with laws. You got a final warning on your user talk page. If you add this one more time, you will get bocked. - DVdm (talk) 17:40, 7 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

My edit of the Danielle Renfrew article

I agree the way I edited the page wasn't very constructive whatsoever, but I had major issues with it. It made no sense, almost all of it couldn't be verified or even cited, and was legitimately a resume, not an article.

I didn't mean to just delete the entire article for no reason. I thought if I did, the "help create this page" notices would replace the page if it were deleted. Anyways, sorry about my mistake, but I seriously can't think of any reasons for that "article" to be up.

AychAych (talk) 14:55, 8 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, OK. The way to go, is to bring this up at the article talk page, or to go for article deletion. See wp:AFD. Good luck. - DVdm (talk) 15:00, 8 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Suppressing my speech doesn't make your wildly unbalanced Pro-trump article any better, friend

Friend, please stop deleting my contributions, which are merely suggestions on a Talk page as to how you can improve an article which reads like an advertisement for the Trump campaign, not a serious encylopedia article. Please, that article is hideously unbalanced and deleting anyone who points this out is not a reasonable way to proceed. Thanks. 2600:1017:B42C:4945:E5C4:EDC4:4041:1433 (talk) 08:45, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. Speaker's corner is over here. Wikipedia is not a soapbox. Even if I agree with everything you say, Wikipedia needs reliable sources. If you continue the way you have edited up to now, you will be blocked, and you will accomplish nothing here. If you try to follow the rules, you have a chance of making a possibly lasting contributing. Good luck! - DVdm (talk) 08:50, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not soapboxing. There are plenty of references but you have the article under lock and key. How about this (with 4 references) and exceedingly neutrally worded:
" Trump has been widely accused of fascism by both Republicans and Democrats for his proposals such as requiring Muslims to carry identification cards, creating a national registry of Muslims, and barring further Muslims from entering the country, as well as for his descriptions of Mexicans as "drug dealers" and "rapists," and his calls to deport approximately 25 Million Mexican-Americans, including full American citizens of Mexican descent born in the United States whose families did not emigrate legally."[1][2][3][4]

References

  1. ^ Lee, MJ (November 25, 2015). "Why some conservatives say Trump talk is fascist". Retrieved December 7, 2015.
  2. ^ Walker, Tim (November 26, 2015). "Donald Trump labelled a 'fascist' by Republican presidential rivals after mocking disabled reporter during campaign rally". Retrieved December 7, 2015.
  3. ^ Jerde, Sara (November 21, 2015). "Jim Gilmore: I Don't Agree With Trump's 'Fascist Talk'". Retrieved December 7, 2015.
  4. ^ "Jeb Bush adviser just comes out and says it: Donald Trump looks like a fascist". November 20, 2015. Retrieved December 7, 2015.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1017:b42c:4945:e5c4:edc4:4041:1433 (talkcontribs) 09:04, 9 December 2015‎ (UTC)[reply]
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So you better list those references on the article talk page (not here), and wait for response from the other editors. You could also add a properly sourced piece of text directly to the article, but make sure the tone is neutral (wp:NPOV) and the references are relevant (wp:V). - DVdm (talk) 09:03, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
That page is owned by paid staffers of the Trump campaign. They're going to suppress it, destroy it, or not add it. They will not let anything even slightly negative be said about him. You are the last hope, friend. Do the right thing. 2600:1017:B42C:4945:E5C4:EDC4:4041:1433 (talk) 09:14, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Please indent talk page message treads—see wp:indent. Thanks.
If you think that the page suffers from inappropriate ownership, you can find what to do at Wikipedia:Ownership of content. DVdm (talk) 09:23, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
If you agree with my position, and I've found you 4 references like you asked, and I've worded it neutrally, why not just add the text, since I cannot? That article is crazily slanted to have no mention of Trump being widely called a fascist for saying that Muslims should be banned from the country. I've supported with references (all from republicans, so no calling me partisan.)2600:1017:B42C:4945:E5C4:EDC4:4041:1433 (talk) 09:31, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Please indent talk page message treads—see wp:indent. Thanks.
I can't judge the reliability of the sources, and I'm not inclided to edit an article about such a controversial subject. Best to be patient and see what develops on the article talk page. Try to be unemotional about it. If that is impossible, try to at least look unemotional. If that is impossible too, take a break. Emotions are orthogonal to encyclopedic writing. - DVdm (talk) 09:50, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Grow

Grow up you moron. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.81.119.48 (talk) 10:31, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ok - DVdm (talk) 10:39, 9 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Archive bot test message

Just a test to make sure the archival bot still works after the talk archive header updates. - DVdm (talk) 10:39, 10 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the replacement of "Lead" with "Pumba"

Hi, thanks so much for your message! 10 years on Wikipedia... wow! You must have pretty significant editing privileges. Would you mind changing the title of the Lead page to read "Pumba" please and thank you? Again, I, a mere neophyte, am honored to have received a message from a Wikipedia veteran. Pbtimon (talk) 16:26, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Thank you for your work to reduce the scourge of vandalism. Kind Tennis Fan (talk) 06:47, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relativity

I saw your refutation of Dingle's refutation of Einstein's special relativity. I haven't tried to check it, but am quite prepared to accept your version. I'm writing just to comment on a curiosity that seems to be of similar nature: someone called Ludwig Essen D.Sc., C.Eng., F.R.S., I think a respected experimentalist, wrote a 2-page article in the prestigious peer-reviewed scientific journal "Wireless World" (some sarcasm here) for October 1978 proving that special relativity was incorrect. Consider two clocks in motion relative to one another. An observer at A will see the clock ticking at B slower than his own clock. But the observer at B sees more ticks. Therefore ticks have gone missing, which is absurd, therefore relativity is false, proven by the loss of ticks. I wrote a letter debunking this (very simple and understandable by any non-expert), but it wasn't published. I've just searched and found it, but haven't reread it; my comments are from memory. Best wishes Pol098 (talk) 13:42, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Herbert Dingle and Louis Essen (Louis, not Ludwig), same story . Cheers! - DVdm (talk) 14:19, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, thanks for that, thought it was just a weird crackpot article, didn't realise that it was from someone notable (I'd also remembered name wrong), or that the WW article had been the subject of discussion (I didn't follow it up after writing my letter). The loss of ticks argument is embarrassingly obvious, I thought this was just someone technically minded but not into theory. Best wishes Pol098 (talk) 16:27, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
The thing is, during the greater part of their career both men were respected physicists, but just a few years after their retirement somehow lost their mind. Indeed it is just a weird crackpot article. Funny and sad at the same time. - DVdm (talk) 16:51, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas from 50.179.194.186

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50.179.194.186 (talk) 17:00, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

On what point would you like a source added, re: Leon Nieman/Colghosz

Dear sir or madam,

I observed your, that is, wikipedia's, article, on W.H. Mckinley's assassin. I notice you (as per norm) request a source for well-established material. I can accommodate, but request specifics. Could you please be more specific as to what matters you would prefer to see substantiated by a source (the altered material is all contained in a single, modest paragrah, of completely new generation--the text, that is, the content being uncontroversial 100-115 year-old history). The altered section was 'legacy', obviously it's bizarre that the ascension to office of a new and near-radically different political leader to the office of the US presidency, one of the most famous such men in US history, was not mentioned there, nor a brief summary of those consequences. That it happened is uncontroversial. That his influence extended at least through the 1912 election into the policies promised by the Democratic candidate in that election to fend him off is likewise uncontroversial, though I said nothing at all so specific. Would you desire more specific language? Do you desire evidence of a policy shift from 1901, as described. Do you desire evidence that the source of this national political shift found its legs in TR assuming the presidency? Do you desire evidence that Csolghosz's shooting of a bullet into the sitting plutocratic president W.H. McKinley effected Roosevelt's assumption of the presidency? I believe that part is stated elsewhere, without citation. Please let me know what you found needing sourcing--all changes are encompassed in a newly generated, perhaps four line paragraph, and all are extremely easily substantiated. For example, in less time than it took to wrote this, I could have given between two and four sources. You will of course understand that since nothing written is controversial or outside basic knowledge of the the political period, it is for this reason I request specifics on what you desire sourcing of. Sourcing on any of the mentioned issues, or anything else written there can easily and quickly be provided, by, say, historians, journalists, the organizers of President Obama's 'Osawatomie Speech', given in the same place and in homage to TR's speech of the same name, in the same place, 100 years earlier. Just tell me what you want cited. I note, however, that you requested exactly and only 1 citation. RA 69.200.228.170 (talk) 10:30, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Re "...more specific as to what matters you would prefer to see substantiated by a source...": you added unsourced content ([2]). Wikipedia needs sources. See this archived talk page thread. - DVdm (talk) 11:14, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Things that are not in question, are well-established historically and amid the scholarly community and more, do not require citation. This is a rule of scholarship. You refuse to actually post words in response to my query, while directing me to a mangonel page I have not looked at in months, but which is just as wrong and full of misinformation as when I first saw it, not even including the three, not two, sources of power for such medieval engines (but which obvious yet easily soluble and uncontroversial problem I am unable to correct because you revert my posts). I posted above an extended description of all aspects, plus context, in the brief paragraph I added to Cszolghosz's page--noting that none of it required citation because. You do not respond. Instead, you quote back at me text you've quoted at me time and again, that 'unsourced content' must be sourced. If you are a genuine scholar, you know how disingenuous this is--shall I point out the sky is blue during the day, and shall you then require of me a source? That is roughly equivalent to the situation we presently are in--I have noted previously that you do not even read my content before discarding it. The assertion that in my contribution to 'encypclopedia' (since, as you put it, my writing is 'orthogonal' to encyclopedia is sheer nonsense, since the text of encyclopedias must still be written separately, without citations that the sky is indeed blue, at least until dead night.

You are indeed achieving your objective, sir or madam, DVDm, of chasing me off this site via harassment. I hope that satisfaction is worth the continuing gross inadequacy of occasional pieces I've been correcting without problem for a decade, just doing my part on minor little matters, as desired by an encyclopedic project like this, but with your continued harassment and baseless reversions--I say again, facts completely uncontroversial in nature REQUIRE NO SOURCING--as should be obvious from, like, any article.

But before I go, and don't ignore this, what are your qualifications, as a scholar, DVDm, other than diligence in eliminating minor corrections by myself? I have three degrees and, I don't know, a decade, doing formal scholarship in the English-language academic system. What have you, as qualification to eliminate anything I write, as qualification for threatening to ban me? Don't wait for the translation, answer it now!69.200.228.170 (talk) 20:12, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(talkpage stalking) What part of WP:PROVEIT is unclear to you? As you claim to be an expert, a word of advice: Wikipedia articles are not scholarly articles. Our citation standards are actually more strict. You might wish to read WP:NOTBLUE for further elaboration. Paradoctor (talk) 20:29, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
And see wp:EXPERT: "Wikipedia has no formal structure with which to determine whether an editor is a subject-matter expert, and does not grant users privileges based on expertise." - DVdm (talk) 21:02, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yeh, I'm not going to read that. Writing the uncontroversial truth for the benefit of others and challenged by none (well, a few nutters), interests me. Censorship standards (Excuse me: citation standards....though of course I note I am routinely reverted, only by you, only ever by you, for articles that otherwise are not cited at all. But if I make an obvious correction, I must cite. Cute. #instititional-decline

And you constantly suppress my work...then when I come to state the obvious objections, i.e. you have suppressed inarguably accurate information...you accuse me of "talk page stalking". Right. Islam, also, is above criticism, yes? As well as any actions taken in the world by name of Islam? That also would be "talk page stalking"

Ridiculous. You are suppressing wikipedia contribution while claiming privilege not to be challenged on the matter. Further, this is a secondary way of justifying that you prefer to suppress minor, uncontroversial edits by me (suppressed by you, often clearly having not read them, or not knowing the subject), based on a doctrine that there is no official way of assessing whether you have any qualifications, something you hide behind, seeing as you have not the qualifications to assess accuracy. Tell me, why do you object to my alterations to articles which are nascent stubs which HAVE NO CITATIONS before I get to them. By your standards, shouldn't you be eliminating the entire article (often uncited completely, but a good starting point), rather than simply blocking my modest revisions to the grossest of their inaccuracies?

Very well. You refuse to present qualifications as a scholar. In contrast I have such. But moving on, What qualification do you have to suppress, selectively, as noted above, anything written from this IP--a uniformly counterproductive activity. No matter what I write, or where, or how uncontroversial, you 'revert' it. Something about this smacks of bias to me. I say now as I have said before: get off my back, and send another editor, without a vendetta, to check my work and see if it's in some way unobjectionable. I record all that I write here, and all that you baselessly delete. Again, find someone else--I'm too old, and too qualified to be "taught a lesson" by you for correcting simple problems. I seek only to do what I've always done here: correct obvious mistakes and make modest additions within the mainstream of scholarship, scholarship so mainstream it needs no justificatin--according to the rules of scholarship. No one has ever had a problem with this before. Ever. Why would they? Again, I am suddenly faced with a new situation; I have changed one word, ONE WORD, in this encyclopedia, that, to my knowledge, aside from all the other minor revisions by you, demanding sources on pages that have no sources otherwise, being censored away. You overreach. Now, as I've said before, and for the last time, get off my back--if my contributions need oversight (they probably don't, but extra eyes usually help), send someone else.

I will ask: do you have an official position in this encyclopedia? On what basis do you simply revert all written here (almost universally minor revisions to bring wikipedia articles within the mainstream of scholarship), and on what basis do you view that as some sort of positive contribution, as opposed to being censorship? Again, it needs no citation to state the sky is blue, therefore why do you require one? Why is wikipedia giving false information as to the power source of medieval war engines, refusing to include the noncontroversial fact that such engines were powered through three, not two, mechanisms? I will guess your answer: blah blah blah citation. You already know mine. Citations of the uncontroversial are both unnecessary and an irritating waste of time. Further, I level again to you the charge of harassment and censorship on noncontroversial subject matter, presumably for the satisfaction of your own ego in winning a pointless intellectual argument, the casualty being only a few modestly and uncontroversially improved articles.

ALL of your suppressions ignore the fact that much of wikipedia's content is unsourced (and often the better for it, as with any encyclopedia). Do we live then in China, where any statement or argument in a paper must by justified by the statements of a communist party elder? An equivalent to this appears reasonably close to what you desire--at least as regards any contribution by me--again, even to articles otherwise utterly and completely without citation. Even minor edits to such work by this IP you revert. This has gone to the point of absurdity. -RA69.200.228.170 (talk) 22:25, 21 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]