User talk:czar

I am obsessed by the plain facts:

writing them literally down

is all the poetry I can.

Know that I esteem my editorial independence. Even as

an editor professionally connected to Kickstarter

I reject payment to edit or advocate on anyone's behalf.

Declarations

· Assisted edits done as user:helsabot
· My original contribs are dedicated to the public domain.
· Selected articles

Development of Grand Theft Auto V

Hi czar. Sorry to bother you, but I'm not sure where else to turn with this. There is an edit war taking place at the Development of Grand Theft Auto V article (I am a big part of the problem, I'm ashamed to admit), and I don't like how it's playing out. Another editor, Mainline421, continues to claim that my edits are "disruptive" and that I am showing ownership, but fails to provide any reasoning as to how or why. Despite this, he continues to claim that the issue has been discussed on the talk page; when discussed on Mainline's talk page, still no proper reasoning was given. On more than one occasion, he has agreed to reach a sort of compromise between our opinions, retaining pieces of both our edits in order for the edit warring to stop, yet still continues to revert my edits entirely. I've also explained every one of my edits previously, but with no response. I'm a bit lost, and participating in edit wars is the one thing I don't want. If you could help in some way (even if it is just by telling me to stop), I would truly appreciate it. Thank you. – Rhain1999 ^{(talk to me)} 23:17, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's always best to bring an edit war to a more public forum—usually helps to diffuse any of the back-and-forth. WT:VG is typically a good venue. I left a note on the talk page and will keep an eye on it. A discussion of each individual point of contention is a logical next step. The article should revert to its last stable version while the new changes are discussed on its talk page, but I suggest that an uninvolved party (such as myself) be the one to make those changes (though involved parties can help identify the last stable version). My general advice/opinion in these situations is to ask whether each successive response is a step towards de-escalation. czar 23:40, 15 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hitwicket

Hello Czar,

Our wiki page "Hitwicket" was recently marked for deletion as the article lacked significant coverage from reliable sources. Our game 'Hitwicket' is the most popular cricket management game in India & in a lot of cricket playing nations. We do have a lot of reliable sources to back up our significance. We were recently funded by Chennai Angels a month back & the news has even been updated on their wiki page as well (reference point 7) . Link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chennai_Angels

Please refer the following links which we want to add to our deleted page to provide coverage from reliable sources.

Kindly review these links & undelete the article "Hitwicket" so that we can add all these links for references in the article.

(Keertisingh25 (talk) 14:30, 16 December 2015 (UTC))[reply]

@Keertisingh25, here's what I can do: I could restore the page to a draft area where all of the unsourced content would have to be deleted and rewritten with citations to reliable sources. Alternatively, you can just start a draft and write fresh from the reliable sources. The article should not enter the main article space with unsourced content. Keep in mind that per our conflict of interest guidelines, you would need to declare the nature of your interest in the subject on the article's talk page. Most companies leave the writing of WP articles to unaffiliated editors. Re: the sources, I removed the duplicates from the list above and struck the sites that should not be used as sources. "Reliable" source means that it has a reputation for reliability, like The Hindu, not sportskeeda.com, which is a platform for self-publishing fans. Might there be more coverage of Octathorpe than Hitwicket still available? The majority of the above coverage is about the investment from Chennai Angels—it would seem that a natural place to start would be a paragraph about the investment process and rationale on Chennai's own page rather than a dedicated page for Hitwicket. czar 14:44, 16 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Czar, Please refer two additional links were in we were covered by The Business Line & Bangalore Mirror to talk about our game, its strategy & offline meet ups where users of Hitwicket have met each other to discuss the game, something very unique just to Hitwicket unlike other online games.

http://www.bangaloremirror.com/bangalore/others/Beyond-the-realm-of-online-gaming/articleshow/44881150.cms http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/blink/work/bl-ink-live-cricket-matches-virtual-cricket-and-cricket-based-mobile-apps/article6937357.ece

It would be good if you can restore the page to draft area & we will delete unsourced content & rewrite with citations to reliable sources.

Keertisingh25 (talk) 07:42, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Keertisingh25, it's live at Draft:Hitwicket. Please do not move it out of draftspace without a review from another Wikipedian. czar 14:23, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Czar. Keertisingh25 (talk) 08:22, 18 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A few questions

If you get a chance, please see this. The deadline in Jan 5th. Thanks again for your help. -Thibbs (talk) 11:38, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
PS - I'm digging the minimalist ambiance provided by that Zabriskie piece. I don't know him in particular, but I gained something of an appreciation for ambient music over my many hours of late-night reading during my school days. Sadly the mere presence of Wikipedia's sound clips seem to crash Firefox v3.6.28 for me every time so nobody using that browser can edit this page or any other with embedded sound clips. Why am I running such an out-of-date version of Firefox? Well it's the most advanced version that can operate on Mac OS X Tiger... You can mark my devotion to the ancient rickety non-touch-screen antique down to equal shares of nostalgia and laziness... -Thibbs (talk) 11:38, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I'll have more time for this next week czar 14:23, 17 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Avrich

Moved to User talk:73.139.123.15

Public forum

Which public forum for an undeletion discussion should I go to? I think Banana (video gamer) clearly met GNG and was missing a bunch of Chinese languages sources were ignored in the AFD.--Prisencolin (talk) 00:36, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

WT:VG, for instance. But the idea is that when a deletion discussion closed mere months ago, it should go back to discussion (or to the discussion participants) before unilaterally overturning the agreement. czar 00:41, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I just submitted it to deletion review, hopefully that was the right place.--Prisencolin (talk) 00:48, 19 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

VG series reviews

I came across your edit to Module:Video game series reviews doing broken ref patrol this morning. The change to default status for GameRanking reviews caused them to disappear from a number of articles, and cite errors to pop up in those articles for unused refs. I've fixed some by adding the "gr=" tag but I'm out of time this morning. If you have time please take a look, otherwise I'll get around to it eventually. Cheers. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 16:25, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nice—thanks. We're discussing at Template_talk:Video_game_series_reviews#GameRankings czar 18:12, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Season's Greetings!

Hello Czar: Enjoy the holiday season and upcoming winter solstice, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 18:57, 20 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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update

Got them! Thank you so much! WhisperToMe (talk) 20:08, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mentions not working?

Hey Czar, sorry to bother you, but you might know.... I've found two cases today, just back-checking my talk page contributions, where someone Pinged me and I didn't get a notification... any ideas why that might happen? The last mention that I got notified on actually was when you replied on the Desi article. -- ferret (talk) 22:25, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Ferret, did you get this one? And do you have diffs for the ones you missed? Not a bother at all. The ping templates have changed a few times without letting everyone know so there's still a bit of mystery. czar 22:51, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I got that one. The two diffs I know of are here, which looks like a bare user link (Should mention, yes?) and here (As well as the next diff). Maybe being edited interfered? -- ferret (talk) 23:01, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

These two didn't send because the author needs to sign in the same edit. In the first case, the editor added the ping in a subsequent edit but didn't sign it again (could have replaced their sig). In the second case, the editor used a nonexistent template redirect {{yo!}} and in their edit correcting the template (to {{yo}}) didn't sign their signature, so it didn't send. Both cases were fine in the end, but they just needed to resign their posts to actually send the ping. czar 23:28, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't know that it was tied to signing. That actually makes a lot of sense. Need to keep it in mind for my own pinging. -- ferret (talk) 23:40, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

SNAFU Con

I respectfully have several issues with the movement of this article to Draft.

Primary source, if you are referring to animecons.com, parts of it are considered reliable by WikiProject Anime and manga. I do agree sourcing could be better on several parts, but I feel even with the sources you deemed "local", this article meets notability, weakly yes.
You also didn't even finish the cleanup work properly, several links still pointed to SNAFU Con's moved page.
A message on my talk page would have been a nice courtesy. It was rather unpleasant finding the article was moved with the message "uses mostly unreliable, primary, and local sources → not ready → send through AfC".
I would prefer to see this go to AFD. This article will more than likely get no work in draft and be deleted after whatever period that happens.

For the time I have restored the page and marked the page with notability. I look forward to working with you on this issue. Esw01407 (talk) 23:53, 22 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Esw01407, when an editor adds content, the burden is on them to prove that the content is worth adding. I sent this back to draftspace because I don't think it would have passed Articles for Creation review, and that is the incubation space where an editor would walk through what it needs in order to stand on its own. I have no interest in taking it to AfD or deleting your work—I want to see it improved and we have a process for that. Please restore the draft and work on it there until another editor has reviewed it. czar 04:28, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Season's greetings!

Hello Czar: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Esquivalience ^t 21:13, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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GR

Can you fix King's Quest (2015 video game)? I don't want to violate 3RR. Both GR and MC have a single review for PC, so the last revert rationale is silly. -- ferret (talk) 00:47, 24 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Ferret, agreed and fixed. Thanks for your help mopping up czar 01:03, 24 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I had a reason to use rollback for once. This IP-hopper has been tailing Dissident93's WP:VG/GL edits as well. -- ferret (talk) 01:06, 24 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Moving my page (Dragon Coins) to a draft

I recently saw you move my page dragon coins to a draft, it doesn't need to be a draft, I want other people to also work on the page so that the page won't be a stub. I am planning to revert it as making a draft of dragon coins won't help the it in anyway. Ae9000ae (talk) 10:25, 24 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Ae9000ae, if you want help, you can reach out at a noticeboard like WT:VG, but the article in its current state is not ready for mainspace. It would need many more references from reliable, secondary sources. This all said, the burden is on the adding editor to make the article/contents presentable—articles, especially messy ones, do not magically de-stub. czar 16:59, 24 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Actually it is ready for mainspace, I sourced it with help, also it provides information that is ready for mainspace, etc. Ae9000ae (talk) 19:36, 24 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]