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The article could be improved by reorganizing some of the sections, adding better transitions, and perhaps moving some information to separate articles. That being said, I do not think the article is necessarily too lengthy; it just needs better editing. Several other city articles covering cities of similar size and importance as Indianapolis are just as long, and some are even longer.

I don't think the list of neighborhoods is silly, but I would pare it down to remove some of the more obscure neighborhoods.

The sections on crime and law enforcement could be combined and greatly scaled down.

I don't see a problem with covering some of the details of Unigov in the main city article, especially since it has had such a major impact on the history and development of the city; the main article should at least provide an overview and mention current efforts to expand Unigov. The specific Unigov article can provide a detailed examination of the city-county consolidation.

I agree the Klan section could be scaled down and there could be links to the other articles which cover the history of the Klan in Indiana.

Indiana Avenue and the African-American community which thrived along it made up an integral part of the city's cultural and social history. I think Indiana Avenue and its related jazz and blues musical heritage should be mentioned in the main city article and then a separate article could cover the topic in greater detail.

Finally, I don't see a problem with the history section of the main article as it simply provides an overview of the growth and development of the city. I do agree there should at least be a brief reference to Eli Lilly & Co and the major impact the company, the Lilly family, and the Lilly Endowment have had on the growth and development of the city and state (and the nation and the rest of the world to a certain extent). As for Stephen Hilbert, while he and his wife TomiSue are certainly colorful individuals, they most certainly do NOT deserve to be mentioned in a scholarly overview of the history of Indianapolis. --Kangaroo1 18:14, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The list of neighborhoods is just silly. I never heard of half of them when I was living in Indy.

The whole Klan thing could be summed up in one or two sentences, with links to the KKK, DC Stephenson, and Madge Oberholtzer articles, possibly expanding those if there's unique information here.

Same with the Unigov section. There's already a Unigov article - why isn't all that stuff there?

The section on Indiana Avenue should be extracted into a separate article and possibly expanded. The Slippery Noodle should probably be mentioned.

There's way too much history in this article, and the history that's here seems arbitrarily chosen. For example, there's not a mention of James Whitcomb Riley in the entire article (not even the Children's Hospital), and the only references to Eli Lilly are in the context of the museum and the company. Also, any discussion of the recent history of Indianapolis really isn't complete without a discussion of Stephen Hilbert and Conseco.

Well, living in Fountain Square until a couple years ago, I know exactly where every single one of the neighborhoods that are listed in this article are. Maybe you should go outside sometime and stop making articles about how computers used to be expensive and were really slow (OMG BILL GATES SAID 640kb OF MEMORY IS ENOUGH FOR ANYBODY LOLZORZ, HE WAS SO WRONG, I HAVE 2GB AND IT STILL HASN'T MADE ME COOL). Triikan 17:09, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Are there any ideas as to how the Indianapolis page should be scaled down?134.68.176.190 21:58, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder if the Indy images could be moved to WikiCommons so that we can use them in some of the foreign-language articles?--69.245.192.52 02:48, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, that was me (forgot to log in). --69.245.192.52 02:50, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The previous edit seemed to imply that the "golden era" (1890-1920) of Indianapolis was due to the absence of the Klan. More likely, it was due to the prosperous situation caused by the employment surge led by the discovery of the large natural gas deposit in the 1890s. The natural gas was squandered by 1915, and I'm sure this is a bigger factor in the end of the "golden age" than the rise of the Klan. I shouldn't have to mention the following as a disclaimer, but I know somebody has already been offended: I do not condone the Klan. I am not being racist and I am not trying to downplay the atrocities committed by the Klan. But I'm pretty sure that the "golden age" had less to do with the absence of the Klan than the availability of free energy did. For more information on the natural gas deposit, see http://www.centerforhistory.org/indiana_history_main9.html or google for "indiana history natural gas". --Shamashmuddamiq

Merge Fountain Square?

There is a proposal to merge the Cincy part of the article Fountain Square with this one. I disagree and have described my reasons on its discussion page. --Tysto 13:06, 2005 August 4 (UTC)

Picture

Couldn't we get a real picture of the skyline as the intro picture? To be honest, it's pretty sad that we have an article on a city in which many hundreds of thousands of people live, work, and visit everyday that has an artist's conception as the main picture. bob rulz 06:27, 18 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Daylight Saving

I understand the move to daylight saving has been confirmed from April 2006. Can we now show the time zone during this period is UTC -4 hours? Auswide 9:59, 19 November 2005 (UTC) - Done, entered into article on 22 December 2005.

Demographics

Under Demographics, I added the City of Indianapolis Population by year history from 1850 thru 2000. JeffreyAllen1975 04:39, 25 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Nap Town

I've lived in Indy all my life and I've never heard the phrase. Don't remove it I guess, just kind of strange that this wiki will make it more popular.

I didn't live in the city, but growing up in Indiana I never heard this phrase either. Cmprince 21:32, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As do I, and I've never heard it before. Seems somewhat derogatory, so more discussion on it might be needed. 152.228.228.41 03:39, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I live in Indy and have heard the term before. "Nap town" was popularized by late 90's party club advertisements (refering to their clubs as "Nap town's finest") and announcers on the radio station WTLC and early 96.3 broadcast. The term is most commonly used among youths as a shortened "cool and hip" way of reffering to IndiaNAPolis, similar to people refering to Chicago as "Chi Town" or Atlanta as "ATL." It is by no means a derogatory phrase, and more of a "Hip-hop" fad. Amdsupport 05:59, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I heard it plenty of times growing up there in the 1970s and 1980s, most often in a dismissive way by people from larger cities. Veronique 06:08, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm willing to bet that the people in larger cities (or any other cities for that matter) are indifferent to the term because its use within certain groups (mainly youths); the term is not nearly as popular as "Hoosier" or "Indy" and I'd be hesitant myself to use the term in anything above informal conversation. Amdsupport 07:15, 25 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

These days it isn't derogatory at all. It is starting to become a heavily used term, though. Just another way of abbreviating Indianapolis. Daniel 06:02, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

the term was often used in the past to describe the city in a derogatory manner -- ie: it was a boring sleepy town with no nightlife. after the colts were brought to the city and circle centre mall was built the term wasn't used nearly as much. during the late eighties and early nineties the term was most often used in media reports about the progress of the city and how it was shedding it's "naptown" reputation. Randella 02:03, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Google's "nap town" listing shows MANY, MANY references to Indy. Growing up in Fort Wayne in the 1970s/1980s and going to Ball State in the 1980s and 1990s, I heard "Naptown" many times - usually from people from Central Indiana. Davodd 06:28, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Klan Mayor

John Duvall

Sorry Hoosiers but this guy made things so my family had to leave Indianapolis.

Please vote in the population poll

In the article List of United States cities by population, Indianapolis's population is listed as 784,242 instead of 794,160. This is because the editors have decided to use the census balance figures rather than the actual city populations for consolidated city-counties. So despite it being billed as a "list of cities", it doesn't actually list Nashville or Indianapolis, but instead lists their "balances". If you have an opinion about this, please make it known in the poll. Thanks. Kaldari 19:14, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Too long?

The Indianapolis article seems overly long. I think a good area to trim down would be the 'Cultural Features' section. A mention of each cultural district/feature and maybe one sentence about each should be sufficient. The cultural district section should then be spun off into its own article and linked to this section.

Also, the cultural section is somewhat incorrect. The city has officially named 6 cultural districts -- Monument Circle and the War Memorial Plaza are not among them. While I think those sections are fine (perhaps expansion of the Monument Circle section), a distinction should be made between the "official districts" and the "interesting features".

Cultural Districts:

http://www.discoverculturaldistricts.com/alldistrictsmap.htm

Indianapolis Prize

I'm not sure what would be the right place for this text, but the introduction is not it, so I am removing it. L. Pistachio 04:48, 20 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Indianapolis Prize is the world's leading award for animal conservation. The Prize includes a $100,000 cash award and the Lilly Medal, which are presented every two years to a conservationist who has made substantial contributions toward the sustainability of an animal species or group of species. Selected by a globally-renowned nominating committee and jury, the finalists for the 2006 Indianapolis Prize include Dr. George Archibald (cranes); Dr. Holly Dublin (African elephants and other IUCN-listed species); Dr. Iain Douglas Hamilton (African elephants); Dr. David Meche (wolves); Dr. Roger Payne (whales and other cetaceans); and Dr. Simon Stuart (amphibeans). Award-winning actress Jane Alexander is the host of the 2006 Indianapolis Prize Gala. Honorary Chairs include Harrison Ford, Ted Turner, Roger Sant, Senator Richard Lugar, and Senator Evan Bayh.