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JL WOOD

Hi, I added a lot of citations, especially book citations which I hope help keep the page alive. I was hoping that you would take a look and see how it's shaping up and if you think that I should resubmit it. Thanks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:J_Luke_Wood Normanbockwell (talk) 19:36, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

With rare exceptions, notability should be established by so-called independent reliable sources, which means reliable sources not associated with the subject. Nearly all of the references are to books or papers by Wood. Only two of them are independent of him, and only one addresses his work in detail. Please read our policies on notability and reliable sources. Also, please ask for advice at the Teahouse. If you resubmit the draft as it is, I will decline it as showing no material improvement, and will explain to you again that your sources need to be independent of the subject. That is, tell what others have written about him, not what he has written. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:11, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I'm glad I asked before submitting. So, should I keep the books and citations but add the independent sources, or should i delete the books altogether? I'll also jump on teahouse.Normanbockwell (talk) 00:08, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest adding the independent sources, and moving the books to a Books section of the article. Robert McClenon (talk) 21:35, 2 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

22:50:15, 31 March 2016 review of submission by Uchu RRFisher


I applied to th AIAA for consideration for an advisory committee position, and without approval or disapproval I did get the comment that my bio was not visible in the Wikipedia, Exact ontemproaries, Edward Weiler, Chris Scolese, James Green, - all of the same department and serving the same agency are listed with basic bactual information. Using these examples I have tried to create a parallel bio free from value adjetives contining only verifiable information concerning period of intense and notable developmdnt for the NASA scientifc research program. I was completely unaware of the policy concerning autobiography - so I stuck to the facts only. I would like to be identifable and factually documented, but do not participate, out of preference, in various forrms of social media. If I have made an error of procedure that disqualifies the addition of my bio, perhaps you could help me make appropriate changes to th ms to make it more acceptable.

Thank you for your attention in this matter, Uchu RRFisher (talk) 22:50, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I will ask for the advice of other experienced editors at the Teahouse. If your draft biography is an autobiography, some of them may be able to help neutralize it. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:18, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

05:55:51, 1 April 2016 review of submission by Snowyplayer


The reference errors have been fixed. (Snowyplayer (talk) 05:55, 1 April 2016 (UTC))[reply]

Ooty article-request your early mediation and dispute resolution

Hi User:Robert McClenon, Please resolve the dispute regarding Ooty article on DRN at the earliest. Being a challenger of un-sourced, biased content, I can not keep debating continuously and endlessly. Regards,--NitinBhargava2016 (talk) 07:14, 3 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

14:33:32, 3 April 2016 review of submission by Pk1416


Dar Robert, thanks for reviewing my post. Your comments are great to help me improve my post. Could you kindly elaborate on what to do. How to format the references? Why footnotes, which header? This is my first wikipedia entry and I am clearly struggling but eager to learn and approve. So I'd really appreciate you taking the time to eplain in more detail what needs to be changes in order to get approved. thanks and have a good sunday

Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (policy). Legobot (talk) 04:23, 4 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

BAAITS

Hi Robert, you recently commented on my BAAITS article that I need to add more reliable sources. I have two on there, so I understand that's a low number. I'm wondering what your opinion on the two that I already have is thought? What I mean is: do you think that the ones I do have are reliable? I think they are good, but I just want to make sure that going out and getting similar sources is a good way to proceed from here? Thank you! Stayhomegal (talk) 01:28, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I will ask for the advice of other editors at the Teahouse. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:57, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

How I got it all wrong

This statement should be made to the ArbCom, not to me. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:18, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Robert,

Thanks for your comments at ANI and ArbCom. Despite the tone, I still found your comments useful and helpful. However, I have come to explain to you how I got it all this wrong. Firstly, the problem with me about contents creation is that I'm always too impatient to read through the contents and sources before inclusion. Meanwhile I often create a lots of articles. I think I'm just too overzealous! I sometimes mistakenly add the correct source to a different statement. This is what I mean, sometimes, I unintentionally add a source for "statement A" to that of "statement B" and the source for "Statement B" to that of "statement A" due to impatience, making the sources and the contents to appear fake or OR. Secondly, the sockpuppetry is another concerning issue. Honestly, the very first time I joined Wikipedia, I thought it's a social media of some sort where I can put my shameless biography. My first account was blocked and I reopened another account and that was also blocked. I thought the best way to address the reason why the article was deleted is to create another accounts with some unrealistic claim of significance. That was also blocked. I'm not aware of block invasion otherwise I would have follow due process. So, I went to declare my new account to User:RHaworth who permit me to continue editing but not to write about myself. I started writing about notable Nigeria-related topics and at the same time reading the basic policies and guidelines which seemed difficult to understand at that time. This difficulty to understand policy led to the first ANI in 2014. The allegation includes incivility and copyvio. I pleaded and I was not blocked. Since then, I never repeat any of these behavior. Also, I never thought a claim of ACADEMIC will give an impression of dishonesty. I only felt its an informal claim and that is what I take it to be. In fact, I'm not even aware of WP:HONESTY and WP:EXPERT. All of these with the recent recreation of my shameless autobiography amount to a gross misconduct which is enough for an indef block or ban. This I know! The mobbing by the community is simply because they are unhappy with the entire issues. This caused many of them to lose confidence in me as a result. I know the community has brought out my worst contributions and I'm 100% ready to fix the rest under the mentorship of User:Cullen328 and user:Irondome and anyone willing to help. Above all, I need to be rehabilitated. Please I need help, in any capacity you can help. Wikic¤l¤gyt@lk to M£ 20:06, 6 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

15:25:48, 7 April 2016 review of submission by Dantunkuran



Hello Mclenom. How do you request for the deletion of the other page?. Thank you

Katie Rodan at WP:RMTR

Hello Robert. The style of this article is promotional, though the person seems notable. If you are familiar with AfC, why not do whatever fixup you think is appropriate and then approve it in the AfC way? I am unsure if RMTR is supposed to bypass AfC, though I know little about the mechanics. I declined the move just so the status is clear, but will restore it if you are sure this is an OK procedure. The product article at Proactiv looks legit and some experienced editors have worked on it. Maybe one of them would be willing to help. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 03:08, 8 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I am familiar with AFC. I reviewed the draft via AFC. It appears that you and I had different opinions. I was not trying to bypass AFC, but I cannot accept an article via AFC without a technical move if its title already exists as a redirect. I will review the article again as to tone and will provide feedback to the author. (Notability is established.) Thank you. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:13, 8 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I deleted the redirect and moved the article to Katie Rodan. It still has some AfC headers on it. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 13:36, 9 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It no longer has AFC headers. If any editor editor has issues with it such as a promotional tone, they can either tag it or revise it. (There shouldn't be any notability issues. We can agree that the subject is notable.) Robert McClenon (talk) 15:51, 9 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 04:32:40, 8 April 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Sarovaram11


Hi Robert! This is with reference to my article The Label Life, that was rejected (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sarovaram11/sandbox). I'm attempting to edit it and I wanted to clarify the reasons for rejection so I know I'm on the right track while making the changes. 1) The language - needs to be more neutral and objective (does this mean not using phrases like 'celebrity stylists' and so on) 2) Sources - I've tried to restrict them to articles from magazines and newspapers (Indiatoday, vogue and open, the magazine - among others) could you guide me on what other sources I should be looking for?

Apologies if these questions sound silly, it's my first time and I thought it was ready as I put it on the New Contributor's Help chat before submitting for review. But I clearly missed a lot, anyway, it's all a process right?

Thanks very much

Sarovaram11 (talk) 04:32, 8 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Sarovaram11 (talk) 04:32, 8 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I will try to answer and to get help from other editors at the Teahouse. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:36, 9 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wikicology arbitration case opened

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A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Hello Mccleone. I am confident with people like you Wikipedia would be more reliable. This is your 2nd rejection of my page. i have tried again. Please check Dantunkuran (talk) 13:27, 9 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 15:06:08, 9 April 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Dantunkuran


Hello Robert. Another editor informed that the other black draft with the name Abdulbaqi Jari has been deleted. You may take a look at the page i am creating now.

Thank you

Dantunkuran (talk) 15:06, 9 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Formal mediation has been requested

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Request on 22:14:56, 9 April 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Biolprof


First, thank you for you amazingly quick response to my submission of UNC13A as an article for creation. I am a WP Teaching Fellow/University Professor and have a student that would like to expand this article, but I don't want her to be held up by the AfC process. I can have her work further on this stub, but my understanding is that the Wikipedia:WikiProject Molecular and Cell Biology has a project to create a stub for every human gene/protein with the expectation that the stubs will be fleshed out as our knowledge improves. The style guide for these articles is found here. The content of the article I submitted was automatically generated by the GeneWikiGenerator following WP style guidelines. I thought I should be able to automatically send it to WP from the Biogps site, but since I could not, I submitted it as an AfC. Many similar stub articles with just one or two references have been created, some generated by a bot. (For example: ALDH16A1). My response to your specific comments:

  • my understanding is that WP:MCB has determined that every human gene is notable. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong, but the related genes UNC13B and UNC13D each have a page and neither was created with much more information.
  • The broken link to the reference has now been repaired. Apologies that I missed this.
  • Entrez Gene is a definitive reference for all human genes and is cited following the first sentence of all gene/protein articles that I am familiar with.
  • "(C. elegans)" is included as part of the name for the human protein in Entrez Gene/NCBI web site and was included in the WikiGeneGenerator text, but it is not included in the WP pages for the UNC13B and UNC13D homologs, so I have deleted that.

One additional comment: if you still think this article should not be approved, would you consider asking someone from the WP:MCB for a second opinion. Thank you for your consideration. Biolprof (talk) 22:14, 9 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Biolprof (talk) 22:14, 9 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

10:18:41, 10 April 2016 review of submission by Longfamily417



Thank you for your recent feedback.

I have modified the first line so that it is not self referencing. I also removed the reference to the Ottawa Citizen circulation size.

Regarding the performance analysis section, what do I do to put it in paragraph format?

Regarding your rejection, what other writing recommendations would you make for it to be acceptable? Perhaps I simply cannot write this kind of article myself? I would have thought the published research would have stood on its own since it was independently reviewed and went through a peer reviewed process.

Interested in your advice.

thanks,

David

A barnstar for you!

The Writer's Barnstar
Hello Robert.

Please guide me so that i can finish creating the article i am currently creating. Please point the errors so that i can know where to specifically correct. The Wiki Nigeria project has only 53 people, which mostly have not been around for some time. 

  I intend to create many articles to help enrich searches from Nigeria. This is my first one, i will definitely improve after succeeding on this one.

Thank you Dantunkuran (talk) 12:19, 10 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Impostor

Hi,

I thought you ought to know that the barnstar you received was left by an impostor, not by me. Adam9007 (talk) 15:24, 10 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I am aware that the impersonator spelled their user ID differently than you do, and was blocked as an impersonator, and is probably a sock-puppet for a banned user, and was probably trying to fool me into supporting them in some controversy. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:35, 10 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm just hoping that people don't mistake me for him, or think he's a sockpuppet of me or vice versa. He forged my signature and copied my user and talk pages. Adam9007 (talk) 17:38, 10 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The admins know which of you is which. Don't worry. They blocked him, not you. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:52, 10 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Mail

You've got mail. — TransporterMan (TALK) 19:24, 10 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Closed dispute

Hello, Can you please explain what you mean by "the filing party has not listed any of the other parties"? Thanks 24.197.253.43 (talk) 04:50, 11 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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