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KnightWarrior25

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01 July 2016

– A checkuser has completed a check on relevant users in this case, and it is now awaiting administration and close.

Suspected sockpuppets


The latest detected sock of KnightWarrior25 was blocked on 4 April 2016. ArghyaIndian (now moved to Spartacus!) is editing the same military and weapons related pages which KnightWarrior25 himself and all of his other socks used to edit. After MBlaze Lightning was blocked, ArghyaIndian stopped editing and resisted the temptation to edit but he lost this resistance after he saw an RfC filed by me at Talk:1971 Bangladesh genocide#RfC: Addition of content about Biharis and different figures regarding people killed and women raped, he came back just to vote on that RfC on 19 April 2016. Not to mention that during that time between blockage of MBlaze Lightning and the RfC, he kept editing using proxied IPs from different regions. If you see the pattern after his starting to edit again from 19 April 2016, almost all of his edits were to attack me out of revenge because of me getting his previous sock blocked.

MBlaze Lightning was blocked behaviorally and no CheckUser was run thus Spartacus! avoided detection that way. He was also editing from only a mobile device initially. It gave me an impressions that he is purposefully avoiding the user of a computer as he might have used the computer to sock using his other sock accounts, see addition of 10,157 bytes using a mobile device

Behavioral evidence

There is only one day left before this SPI goes stale. 3 July 2016 will be the 90th day. There is much more evidence out there but due to being busy with life I could not collect more than this before this 90 day deadline. User should be blocked behaviorally. I am requesting that CheckUser be run on an urgent basis if user cannot be blocked behaviorally. Also, there is a strong possibility that user was using multiple devices for socking so you might want to consider the behavioral evidence with overall location of the user (Spartacus! mostly used mobile and I believe the device he used might not have been used by his other socks) Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 11:52, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment:@Bbb23: and other CheckUsers: What about behavioral evidence presented here? I did express my fear that CU might not be able to match him as he seems to be trying to keep this account segregated to one type of device. Can someone check the behavioral evidence and decide based on that? Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 19:53, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rebuttal to the comment by Spartacus!: The SPI is not frivolous as claimed by Spartacus! but rather meets all the requirements of filing an SPI. It has enough behavioral evidence in it. Someone getting away by segregating their devices does not mean that there is something wrong with the SPI.

Spartacus! claims that he was copying the editing style of Volunteer Marek and using asterisks. What about MBlaze Lightning, who was he copying? Or are they both happen to be fond of VMR's editing style? If we accept that he was copying VMR's editing style then what was his criteria on choosing a string to wrap? Copying a style is one thing but deciding which random text to wrap is another thing. Then, what was need to copy someone else's editing style. Was he trying to hide behind another editor's editing style by imitating them so its hard for others to figure who they really are? This argument totally does not make sense to me. It seems to me that Spartacus! is finally accepting that my initial charge of meat-puppetry was correct. Did he get the whole comments from VMR which contained those asterisk wrapped strings? More importantly, did he also get this edit from VMR?, which contained instructions such as Edit-- Https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1971_Bangladesh_genocide And from "During the nine-month to "END"remove and copy/paste this. Ok? He voted on that RFC after 17 days of break which was raised after a conflict between me and VMR. Was he brought there by someone and instructed by someone and then provided with comments with asterisk wrapped strings and edits because this is a clear cut case of meat-puppetry right there and should be taken care in this SPI so I do not have to open a separate case.

Here is the case why the suspicions were raised about usage of mobile device to avoid getting detected: He is accepting in this edit that he only edits from mobile and he messed up his notepad and messenger stuff which is clear indication that he uses notepad to assemble his edit using a computer then uses Facebook Messenger and sends that edit to himself on messenger then goes to his mobile device and copy/paste it from messenger to Wikipedia. Why would someone go to such as hassle if he is not hiding something? Here are his exact words from this edit: I accidently messed up my notepad and messenger stuffs. If you see the link "en.m." Yes that's mobile web link and that link I copy/pasted in my notepad (I make my edits from mobile only) and copy/pasted old version lead in notepad and pasted there but some that sort of stuffs also got pasted. Or did he receive the text from someone else in the messenger and accidentally copied the instructions when copying to Wikipedia? About his claim about WP:OUTING, can he point out when he told me what his real name was? Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 07:51, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Further rebuttal: Its not a big deal that you reverted yourself. A smart socker will do that especially when he knows a CU cannot catch him. Example: Check User:Adilswati and User:Power22, how they nominated their own files for deletion on Commons. I will provide the diffs if anyone in doubt. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 09:23, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by other users

Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims. The SPI is completely ridiculous and has no merit as well as attempt of harassing two users at the same time by filing frivolous cases and digging past history of users and connecting it with the user (me) who the filer wants to get rid of. This user has persistently harassed me during my initial days at Wikipedia and now has opted a different way to do so ( WP:HOUNDING ) as want to get rid of editors who don't share his pakistani POV. This sort of hounding needs to stop now, for that a BOOMERANG block should be in order as well as admonishment to the filer that they need not to focus on others, and rather on their own contributions to Wikipedia. This is not the first time the filer has called me a sock puppet, as admins can see in this AE request which was declined as frivolous. The evidences being provided *for me* here are copy/paste with some modifications of the AE request [1]. Admins can go through my statement and consider it as my same reply to this frivolous request. My account and IP were recently caught in an autoblock as acc to Ponyo my IP is dynamic IP. It seems like Ponyo did made a CU check on me [2], if the patrolling CU feels that the above request is even worth the time to waste upon, then they should run a check and after the result comes negative, I request a boomerang block to be issued to the filer for blatant [[WP:HOUNDING] and WP:NPA. SheriffIsInTown, TripWire, FreeatlastChitchat, Towns_Hill all are tagteam buddies with over the top pro-pakistan bias and all four hunt in pairs, with two Freeatlast, towns_hill recently got indefinite topic-banned and it seems to me that SheriffIsInTown is having troubles with digesting this that his two buddies have indefinitely t-banned for their battleground approach and POV editing ofcourse and now he want to level the score (this also speaks to the WP:BATTLEGROUND mentality of the filer) and that is why he filed this frivolous request. Anyway, my reply to some of the points of filer which I think need to reply (as they seem new to me/not copy/pasted from previous cases) are-

  1. reason behind me using star shaped marks b/w some of the words (although I have stopped using it now and am using < u > formats instead) is actually I copied this sort of editing style from Volunteer Marek who often uses star shaped * marks. VM was the editor who was the main participant at 1971 RFC and he stopped the filer along with his TAG teaming buddies attempt to convert a NPOV article into POV coatrack that matched with their POV. To the filer shouldn't this make me a sockpupet of VM as well? ROFL.
  2. The filer is using very bad words, for ex: "MBlaze Lightning was blocked behaviorally and no CheckUser was run thus Spartacus! avoided detection that way. He was also editing from only a mobile device initially. It gave me an impressions that he is purposefully avoiding the user of a computer as he might have used the computer to sock using his other sock accounts" & "Not to mention that during that time between blockage of MBlaze Lightning and the RfC, he kept editing using proxied IPs from different regions. If you see the pattern after his starting to edit again from 19 April 2016, almost all of his edits were to attack me out of revenge because of me getting his previous sock blocked." & "The latest detected sock of KnightWarrior25 was blocked on 4 April 2016. ArghyaIndian (now moved to Spartacus!) is editing the same military and weapons related pages which KnightWarrior25 himself and all of his other socks used to edit. After MBlaze Lightning was blocked, ArghyaIndian stopped editing and resisted the temptation to edit but he lost this resistance after he saw an RfC filed by me at Talk:1971 Bangladesh genocide#RfC: Addition of content about Biharis and different figures regarding people killed and women raped, he came back just to vote on that RfC on 19 April 2016."

My reply to these are- Who is he to tell me which article I should edit or not? This is getting really ridiculous! A block is needed here for this sort of hounding. I am here to improve the articles whom I have interest on, and I will continue to do so! To the filer, thousands of Wikipedian edit aviation related articles, does that make me a sock of them as well? ROFL. As for the patrolling admin or CU, feel free to check my contributions thoroughly and If you think that this report is even worth your time to look at/­run a CU check then please do so and speedy close it with WP:NPA and WP:BOOMERANG block (to the filer). I also edit West Bengal, Bangladesh, Afghanistan related pages and have even created one article on List of Afghan active aircrafts which seems like KnightWarrior25 or any of his socks including the latest one MBlaze never even touch these topic areas. As for me using proxy IP(s) to edit 1971 Bangladesh page or related page, to CU, please ask Check User Ponyo, he can confirm you that I am committed to this identity. My IP is dynamic IP and I cannot edit with my IP bcs of autoblocks. As for me using mobile device, I did use my computer as well (when necessary), and who is he (filer) to say what device I should use to edit Wikipedia? He himself using mobile device for all his edits, does this mean that he is a sock as well (perhaps it looks like, anyway). As for my edits on 19 April, LOL to admin please see the AE statement of myn in the link I gave above, needles to say anything more now! As for the filer saying he has more (frivolous) evidences to present but being busy in life, LOL this user only comes active to Wikipedia to file frivolous cases against users whom he think don't share his bias POV. He's digging my editing history from February and saying he don't have time to collect more evidences! ROFL. That's it, I request patrolling CU to (if the want) run a check & after the result comes negative, issue blocks for WP:NPA, WP:HOUNDING. Note that the user is calling me again and again by my real name *Arghya* which itself enough for a WP:OUTING block. Spartacus! (talk) 14:15, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

What sort of (ridiculous) evidences u talking about? ROFL. Picking out onesingle word from edit summary and presenting it here as "◾Poor grammar: Spartacus! (Founded that page)" LOL!
Who r u to say which device I should use to edit Wikipedia? In your desperate attempts, now you are crossing your limits, and the consequences will not be pleasant if you will continue to WP:HARASS me.
How about a CU check on you and TripWire as I can say that, you both geolocates from same location and you using a mobile to avoid CU. You will be exposed quite soon anyway. Spartacus! (talk) 07:28, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This is completely ridiculous! I was not bought by VM or anyone else to the RFC. This is clear cut case of WP:NPA. The filer has made same accusations in past and has reported me to WP:AE and WP:ANI regarding my edits to the RFC! Both AE and ANI cases were declined as frivolous with no actions. Here are the links of AE and ANI of sheriff's bullshit accusations and my reply to them. AE and ANI. After sheriff noticed possibility of BOOMERANG block he stopped filing AE/ANI cases about me. To the filer, I only activated my email few days back to change my username then your bullshit accusations of meatpuppetry has no merit. Infact, you are yourself in cahoots with banned users. Here is the link to the RFC and anyone can see VM was using star shaped marks to highlight certain main words/points, As far as I know, I only used star shaped marks once (noticing VM) to highlight certain words, as I didn't know about the other formats like ( < u >, etc ) as being a new user that time. About my first comment on the RFC- as I explained in my AE statement, my first comment on the RFC "REJECT; The above users belongs to a club of Pakistani POV pushers, who wants to show that..." was actually I copied it from the IP who made that comment on WikiProject Bangladesh. One more thing (for clarity), I started editing from February and the user:MBlaze_Lightning whom the filer is calling me a sock of (Lol) was blocked on April and he actually reverted me on a lot of articles like Excalibur rifle, Advanced Light Torpedo Shyena, etc. and second warn/welcome twinkle message I received was also from him! Regarding WP:OUTING, every pakistani or Indian knows that "Arghya" is a real name and sheriff himself knows it very well. Spartacus! (talk) 08:58, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"Its not a big deal that you reverted yourself"- enough is enough, to closing CU/administrator, I request to issue WP:NPA or WP:BOOMERANG block to the filer for persistently calling me a sock after CU results. Bbb23 you made a check on my account / IP, Ponyo made it as well (seems like when I was autoblock yesterday), I request you to keep the details (which only a CU can see) confidential and please do not disclose where I geolocate from as the above battleground mentality user might ask you on your talk page. Spartacus! (talk) 09:42, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'm convinced Spartacus! is the same person as KW based on these:

  • Comparison of these edits [3] by the confirmed KW sock, MBL, with the same signature editing started by Spartacus! [4] on indian military equipment.
  • Use of double past tense as Sheriff pointed out [5]. This is a Key KW give away made by all of his socks [6] [7] [8] and quoted in the last SPI as well which got MBL a duck block.
  • The extensive personal attacks, replies to replies and waste of everyone's time [9] that followed on MBL's talkpage after the block are similar to what is seen in attempts to WP:SOUP this SPI.

These giveaways convinced me and made me comment in support at the last SPI as well which turned out to be spot on. This is WP:DUCK behaviour which was endorsed by QEDK last time for the exact same. --lTopGunl (talk) 13:41, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Spartacus! edits Bengali Wikipedia with Bengali edit summary. Stop wasting your energy. And many users use the same ISP...... Example- Kichappan, Digitalravan. M Blaze Lighting can't read or write Bengali. LOL. Cactus Killer (talk) 14:00, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You want to say that If I edit indian military equipment, and any article related to military then I will automatically become sockpuppet of KnightWarrior and his socks? I seriously didn't get your second and third point but I get it why you commented here. You both are in cahoots off-wiki to get me blocked but your all wet dreams will be badly crushed when the case will be thrown to the archives. If the CU results proves that I'm unrelated to KnightWarrior25 and his socks then you have no right to call anyone a sock based on your whims. When a CU runs a check, they check everything from geolocation to the devices /gadgets we use to edit Wikipedia. All these pro-pakistani editors are commenting one by one to get me blocked because they want to get rid of editors who don't share their bias POV. It is completely ridiculous, these all bias pakistani editors are commenting here so that they prove that this fake case is true. Pinging CU @Ponyo: as when I was autoblock they helped me! I will request Ponyo to tell anyone that which ever IP I use always remain caught in autoblocks and that I have not edited any article other then my this account. Spartacus! (talk) 14:14, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I think this comment alone merits a WP:NPA block for accusing other editors even if we were not considering the sockpuppetry, even if we were not considering the repeated inflamatory commenting from Spartacus! above. I'm not going to reply to your accusations and I suggest Sheriff should avoid it too. Admins here are experienced enough to see through it if you stop making it this much WP:TL;DR. Such WP:BATTLE mentality will get you blocked on its own. --lTopGunl (talk) 16:26, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

  • Spartacus! and MBlaze Lightning are Red X Unrelated.
  • MBlaze Lightning is  Confirmed to KnightWarrior25.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:43, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • SheriffIsInTown and Spartacus!, your comments are becoming very difficult to follow. Both of you, but Spartacus! more, are straying way off topic into personal attacks and inflammatory rhetoric. It's not helpful. As an aside, SheriffIsInTown, what makes you think that this "SPI" is going to become stale imminently? You said the same thing on another editor's Talk page, and I'm not sure what you're referring to. Also, the issue of devices is irrelevant. Whatever devices are being used by editors is clear to me when I run a check. I don't need to have editors express their opinions as to their usage.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:01, 2 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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