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Shooting of Alton Sterling

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WP:NOTNEWS Cases of death at the hands of law enforcement become notable when there is a landmark legal decision (whether innocent or guilty), or a great amount of demonstration. The sources say around 100 local demonstrators. This is not in the same magnitude as the similar deaths of people like Michael Brown, Eric Garner or Mark Duggan which clearly pass the 10-year test '''tAD''' (talk) 09:07, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep The shooting has been getting a lot of media attention and it's the most publicized police shooting in the US so far this year. It has gotten a lot of talk among people online, and it's also caught on FILM, and the protests look pretty strong in number. I don't see this as non-notable at all. If it does become unheard of soon, then it's understandable to find it a candidate for deletion. It is also possible this officer could be charged with a crime, and that could result in a long and widely publicized trial. So why are you immediately wanting to get rid of this page? Cyanidethistles (talk) 10:49, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • There is no deadline, there is nothing to say that this will not be a notable item, and if deleted it would be recreated. You have literally said WP:TOOSOON by adding that nobody has been charged. The current sources say 100 local protestors. That is nothing compared to the nationwide aftermath of the deaths of people like Garner, Brown and Duggan. "talk online" is not a sign of notability. '''tAD''' (talk) 10:55, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • Unfortunately a large number of people are killed by law enforcement in the United States, so much so that Wikipedia has an article for every month. It is far too early to know if this will be one which stands out. "the protests look pretty strong in number" is original research when the maximum per the sources is 200, in a city of a quarter of a million, and compared to the aforementioned cases which had nationwide protests. The 200 in total is nothing compared to how there were 2,000 arrested alone in the unrest after the death of Duggan, in a country where urban unrest is at a lower scale. '''tAD''' (talk) 11:15, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
So why did shootings like Shooting of Samuel DuBose and Shooting of Dontre Hamilton stay? The first one got quite some national media attention and probably even less protesting, but it's NOT nearly as notable as the Brown or Garner incidents. The Hamilton shooting is probably very unknown to people outside of Wisconsin, and I've heard very little of it on national news, yet it's still here. Cyanidethistles (talk) 11:09, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS The existence or lack of existence of a page on another subject is not a reason why any other page should exist or not exist. All articles are created by human editors and subject to review at any time '''tAD''' (talk) 11:15, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Law-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 15:22, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Louisiana-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 15:22, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Clear Keep, very much in the news, very much not a trivia news cycle tidbit.(mercurywoodrose not logged in)50.193.19.66 (talk) 15:45, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep or merge - There is a listing for this incident here to which "Shooting of Alton Sterling" can be merged. For this reason, I am opposed to deletion. I also oppose a "Snow Keep" at this time, as this AFD is controversial and has been supported by one person. --Jax 0677 (talk) 15:48, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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