Talk:List of vegetarians

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Adof Hitler Heavily Disputed! Embarrasment to Wiki

Is Adolf Hitler still in this list? o.O

It shows there are people with an agenda writing in here: Adolf Hitler ate many sorts of meat dishes, ate sausages & pigeons and even asked as his last meal to have meat - and ate it! Ohh yeah which was right before he killed his dog to test his suicide pill ..

Euhh which vegetarian would do that?

Also your own https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_and_vegetarianism & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Adolf_Hitler_and_vegetarianism#Recent_POV_edits page has many (and I KNOW some have even been deleted in the past) disputes of the claim:

> "Traudl Junge, who became Hitler's secretary in 1942, reported that he "always avoided meat" but that his Austrian cook Kruemel sometimes added a little animal broth or fat to his meals." = NOT an vegetarian!

> "All accounts by people familiar with Hitler's diet from 1942 onwards are in agreement that Hitler adhered to a vegetarian diet, but accounts of his diet prior to the Second World War are inconsistent in this regard with some stating he ate meat." = NOT an vegetarian!

> "Fritz Redlich noting that Hitler "avoided any kind of meat, with the exception of an Austrian dish he loved, Leberknödl (liver dumpling)" = NOT an vegetarian!

If you want to debate if he was or wasnt, or even about Nazi's writing animal welfare laws is one thing; but Hitler NOT being in the Disputed list embarrasses the whole of Wikipedia!

It is like writing a wiki article saying that coz they like them so much, pedofiles are NICE to children - puhlease come on ..

And to state that "Joseph Goebbels described Hitler as a committed vegetarian" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_and_vegetarianism) as 'proof' is VERY naieve: Goebbels was Reich's Minister of Propaganda & he lied about a lot of stuff, also about what they did to the Jews! The Red Cross even believed him! Your same page describes tha Nazi's antivivisectionism .. pardon!? They experimented on humans AND animals! Not really anitivivisectionist in my mind .. Pseudohistory! 83.232.236.169 (talk) 16:27, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia relies on professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources, not on what you personally insist on. Ian.thomson (talk) 16:33, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Did u read at all what I wrote?

Also your own https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_and_vegetarianism & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Adolf_Hitler_and_vegetarianism#Recent_POV_edits page has many (and I KNOW some have even been deleted in the past) disputes of the claim:

> "Traudl Junge, who became Hitler's secretary in 1942, reported that he "always avoided meat" but that his Austrian cook Kruemel sometimes added a little animal broth or fat to his meals." = NOT an vegetarian!

> "All accounts by people familiar with Hitler's diet from 1942 onwards are in agreement that Hitler adhered to a vegetarian diet, but accounts of his diet prior to the Second World War are inconsistent in this regard with some stating he ate meat." = NOT an vegetarian!

> "Fritz Redlich noting that Hitler "avoided any kind of meat, with the exception of an Austrian dish he loved, Leberknödl (liver dumpling)" = NOT an vegetarian!

That has NOTHING to do what I insist on .. Wikipedia's several OWN articles dispute Hitler was a vegetarian ... may be you should delete all that info from those pages then ..?

I didnt say 'delete him entirely' from the page; I wrote he should be on the disputed list. Your reply is inappropriate. So what is journalistic about vivisectors writing on pages on vivisection then? Advertisements for their own dangerous pseudo-scientific 'work'. But yes, I know of Dutch wikipedians also that repeat stuff in wiki articles that is NOT true but was still written by a journalist & "thus we can cite/reference them" .. that is NOT what Wikipedia was intended for! 83.232.236.169 (talk) 16:51, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Hitler is only disputed by those peddling an agenda. It would be "embarrassing" if Wikpedia started to succumb to it in the face of the compelling historical evidence to the contrary. Hitler himself identified as vegetarian and that seems to be sufficient if you are a famous scientist or a pop star, but strangely not if you are a mass murderer. If someone slips a bit of animal broth into your meals without your knowledge that does not invalidate your credentials as a vegetarian. I am sure many vegetarians have unwittingly eaten cheese containing rennet and drunk beer containing isinglass etc. As detailed at Adolf Hitler and vegetarianism:

• Traudl Junge, who became Hitler's secretary in 1942, reported that he "always avoided meat" but that his Austrian cook Kruemel sometimes added a little animal broth or fat to his meals. "Mostly the Fuehrer would notice the attempt at deception, would get very annoyed and then get tummy ache," Junge said. "At the end he would only let Kruemel cook him clear soup and mashed potato."
• Margot Wölk, who became his unwilling food taster in 1942, stated that all the food she tested for Hitler was vegetarian, and she recalled no meat or fish.
• On 12 January 1942, he said, "The only thing of which I shall be incapable is to share the sheiks' mutton with them. I'm a vegetarian, and they must spare me from their meat."

All sourced to reputable sources. It looks open and shut to me. Betty Logan (talk) 17:12, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Actually no, 'non-existing wikipedian' Betty Logan with no but only a red page yourself .. I have spoken to you before about Hitler's eating animals and you kept on going about agendas; YOU are the one with an agenda on Hitler being a vegetarian! You are writing YOUR opinion here which is not 'wiki'; on the wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_and_vegetarianism it is disputed that he was a vegetarian, WITH sources - so HOW can it be that another wiki page does NOT recognise the sources that are recognised there!? It makes no sense & thus you make no sense above. 2 wiki pages on the same subject say something different. YOU have an agenda on this subject & thus by wiki-law you should not even be editing this page, right? You cannot deny that Hitler's vegetarianism is being disputerd WIDEly: thus he can NOT be on the vegetarians list of UNdisputed ones!

I am not talking about a little broth that his cook slipped into his meals. When Hitler CHOSE his liver dumplings & fried pigeons to eat, and when he CHOSE to have his last meal WITH meat, NOONE slipped it onto his plate withOUT him knowing! Whe you CHOOSE to eat an animal corpse you choose to NOT be vegetarian: that is nothing UNintentional.

So, either THIS wiki page in unreliable; OR the other page is ..

So, the only thing I am stating is that Hitler should be on the Disputed list. His vegetarianism is being DISPUTED by one of your own pages! -With MORE than 1 reference on that page!

Moreover, when yr docters tell you to eat vegetarian for your healthg (& you then don't) you are NOT a vegetarian .. again: someone who abuses children canNOT say they are nice to children - believe me on that coz I was subjected to it when I was a child.

when we look at older Edits, some of the referenced materials have simply been edited way - by people with an agendfa on this subject - mainly you, if I may refer to the EditHistory of both of these pages. Long time wikipedians have even stopped being active on Wikipedia because of your edits on it! You should STOP yr agenda on this subjec right here.

83.232.236.169 (talk) 08:01, 9 August 2016 (UTC)