Talk:Woodstock

Media Coverage section

I was surprised there was no mention of coverage by ABC and NBC who both had crews there as shown clearly in the film. Is this a deliberate omission or a case of no one getting around to writing about it? Just curious.THX1136 (talk) 20:04, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

I don't see how it could be a "deliberate omission". This is the encyclopedia that anyone edit, and if someone felt strongly about it I'm sure it would have been added. If you feel it's important, I think a brief mention in "Media coverage" section already in the article is appropriate. But keep it's importance commensurate with the other information discussed in the article. A sentence is probably sufficient, well sourced of course. I'm not challenging what you saw in the film, but I've seen the film many times and have no memory of media that I clearly identified as NBC or ABC. Maybe that's just me. Sundayclose (talk) 21:54, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

The instances I was referring to is the crew talking with Michael from ABC. I will admit that it an assumption on my part as the lead reporter looks similar to one employed by ABC at the time. There is also footage of a crew talking with Kornfeld with the mic in view with a NBC logo on the "block" that is used on the body of mics to id the broadcaster. No worries either way. I have no direct memory of specific media coverage of the event. I thought something as remarkable as Woodstock was would have surely had television coverage also. It doesn't need to be mentioned, but if I can come up with a good citation/source I'll add a modest mention if it seems appropriate. Thanks for your response.THX1136 (talk) 19:58, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Beatles / John Lennon

I'm quite sure they were invited too, but declined obviously. Lennon, as a solo artist, seems to have seriously considered it. But why did the story disappear? It was in it, once.

Do you have a source of this rumour? warpozio (talk) 20:10, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Here's the story straight from the mouth of Michael Lang in 2012, one of the organizers: [1] At the very least, they wanted John and lobbied very hard for him to appear. Lang even mentions a telegram where Apple offered the entire Plastic Ono Band, but that it all went to nil because of Nixon. This 2009 book on Woodstock [2] mentions that the organizers were trying to get all the Beatles, but that it remains unclear whether the band considered coming. While not giving a definite source, this website[3] obviously quotes Artie Kornfeld, sounding like Kornfeld met John in person in Canada in the summer of 1969 and that John really wanted to be there but said that Nixon didn't let him. It's also not true as some people have claimed that Nixon wasn't president by the time of the festival, as he had been in office since January 20th, 1969.

Also see my entry in the talkpage archive with sources that George *WAS* at the festival but didn't appear on the stage, that John and Yoko were indeed in Canada just a few weeks before the festival, and how no Beatle made any recording at Abbey Road for the time of the festival. In fact, no Beatle appeared at Abbey Road during the entire August of 1969 prior to the 20th, all recordings that took place all month for the Abbey Road album up until then were only orchestral overdubs done by George Martin. --2003:71:4E23:7B30:B4EA:9F0F:E1B8:706B (talk) 05:35, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

There's a difference in meaning of the words "wanted" and "invited". One of your sources says they "wanted" Lennon. Your second source says nothing. Your third source is unreliable. Sundayclose (talk) 21:04, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Our article section here is titled, Declined invitations *AND MISSED CONNECTIONS*, so the difference between wanted and invited is irrelevant, really. Also, the 2009 book confirms that some form of communication occured between the festival organizers and EMI/Apple over it. With that out of the way, unrealiability of one source is not enough for exclusion if a rumor is well-known and attested or acknowledged in other sources, see for instance our Paul is dead article on that. In fact, the two sources of Lang and the 2009 book confirm not only the existence of the rumor but that the organizers very hard wanted Lennon and, if it could be managed, all The Beatles to be there, and that obviously some form of communication occured between them and EMI/Apple over it.

The only thing really unclear here is whether the band members really considered performing there or even knew they were being asked about it. Kornfeld as the only source that says John really wanted to play there may be unreliable, but again, due to the aforementioned that's not enough for excluson as we have other sources on the entire affair (except as to what the band members themselves had on their minds), and all that combined reeks to me like Kornfeld can very well be included with a caveat as to why his claims can be considered dubious.

I mean, c'mon! I've already busted the reasons originally cited for the deletion of The Beatles at the section which at the time were the two claims that a.) Nixon supposedly wasn't President in the summer of 1969 when in fact he was, and b.) that John and Yoko weren't in Canada during that summer when in fact they were. And now you're coming up with even worse excuses which if held up would mean we'd have to delete articles such as Paul is dead. And even more reasonably so than the fact that the organizers were trying to get at least one or even all of The Beatles to perform at Woodstock, while Paul is, in fact, very much alive. --2003:71:4E6A:B409:F0C2:BF33:943F:4CCD (talk) 14:17, 24 January 2017 (UTC)

Creedence Clearwater Revival playtime

The 'Planning and preparation' section states that Creedence Clearwater Revival played starting from 3.00 AM. But later on, in the listing of when each gig played, they're listed as playing from 12:30 AM to 1:20 AM. At least one of these statements must be false. 2001:981:4B0C:1:651F:15C6:233E:79BB (talk) 13:42, 5 September 2016 (UTC)