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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Macrolancer (talk | contribs) at 11:30, 10 April 2017 (→‎Explain the reason: new section). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Here because I deleted your article? Read through this first to find out why.

If you do leave me a message I will generally respond here, unless you want me to reply elsewhere.

Aphmau Template

Hi! I recently created a template called Aphmau, and I saw that it got recently deleted for being an advertisment. Can you provide me a copy of the deleted template so I can update it to not be in violation? Also, I had a question about not being in direct violation. I used PewDiePie's PewDiePie Template to make the Aphmau template. What is the difference between the two for only the Aphmau one to get the advertising takedown. Thanks! Everything helps because I am a semi-new user to Wikipedia! :D Jamesjpk (talk) 17:18, 31 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is that you are trying to create a page for a non-notable person. The tag used for deletion of your template was misleading; WP:CSD#A7 would have been more appropriate; my apologies for not correcting that when deleting. I see you have also created a page for Aphmau, also since deleted. Yes, I could give you a copy of what has been deleted, but you would only be wasting your time trying to edit something that will ultimately never be allowed to exist, unless Aphmau becomes a notable person. Have a read of the notability guidelines to see what is required.
If you can find me 3 independent third party sources that demonstrate Aphmau's notability, I will restore both the template and your article so you can get it ready for putting into Wikipedia. Please note: the sources must meet Wikipedia's standards of reliability and independence (see Identifying Reliable Sources for more information). Remember - anything created by Aphmau (like her Twitter account or YouTube channel) won't count, nor will a fan wiki.
If you can't find anything that will indicate she will be a suitable topic, don't despair! There are MILLIONS of articles that already exist, so the chances are there are articles that need help that you already know a lot about. This directory helpfully lists all the major WikiProject topics; just scroll down the list and choose something you are interested in.
If you have any further questions, don't hesitate to drop me a note on my talk page, or go to the help desk if you need a quicker response - I'm not as active on Wikipedia as I used to be. Stephen! Coming... 09:58, 1 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You are kind of right about finding independant sources for her being hard. But, I bet this is possible. I will try and get back to you. If I fail and she isn;t notable enough now, can I go to someone in the future (other than you) and restore the deleted page? Jamesjpk (talk) 17:04, 1 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
By all means; Deletion Review is the place to go. Just follow the instructions on the page. Put as much proof in your request to demonstrate why Aphmau is notable. I would also recommend requesting that it is undeleted for placing in a User page (called userfication), so you can edit it to your heart's content until it is ready to move into article space. See also Wikipedia administrators willing to provide copies of deleted articles. Stephen! Coming... 14:31, 2 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]


An editor has asked for a deletion review of Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2017 April 4. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Jamesjpk (talk) 02:26, 4 April 2017 (UTC) (Thank you for giving me the steps to do this)[reply]

BLAZE KE Deletion

Hello,

I recently created a page on BLAZE, which is a subsidiary of Safaricom and the page was deleted. The reason was that I had not put the COI clause and the context was like promoting a brand . I revised the content and also put the COI under my user page but you deleted it. Could you explain as to why you deleted it? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bichwa254 (talkcontribs) 08:42, 5 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The page read as if it were promoting BLAZE, and in addition there was nothing in the article to show there was anything notable about it. Stephen! Coming... 11:04, 5 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your sig

Could you fix your sig so that it links to your user account rather than to StephenBuxton? Even though StephenBuxton is a REDIR it means the AdminHighlighter tool doesn't work on your sig, and it's caused LesTP to leave a message at User talk:StephenBuxton. Thanks, Cabayi (talk) 11:09, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Will do, I wondered why he posted there! Stephen! Coming... 11:11, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, all looks good on your latest sig below. By the way, "again I urge you to write about the company" may be missing a "not"? Cabayi (talk) 11:35, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I've updated Wikipedia:Changing username#Other things to consider:. Does it look OK and is it consistent with your experience? I hadn't altered my sig so it's one side-effect I didn't hit when I changed username. Cheers, Cabayi (talk) 11:46, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Much appreciated for the heads up on the errors (I've amended them now). Your addition to WP:CHU looked good; I tweaked it a little to clarify it a bit more - hope that's ok. Stephen! Coming... 14:36, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, the tweak looks good. Cabayi (talk) 21:23, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Scepter Publishers Content

Hi Stephen

Thanks for the work you do. I apologize for not adhering to Wikipedia guidelines. I'm learning.

Is there any way to retrieve the content that was deleted?

Did it not pass a standard for notability?

Thank you. Sorry to cause problems.

LesTP 11:03, 8 April 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by LesTP (talkcontribs)

I see that you are connected to Scepter Publishers as a contractor, and as such I STRONGLY recommend that you do not write an article about the company for reasons of Conflict of Interest. The article, as you had written it, was written in the style of an advert (quoting mission statement, their vision, and many other phrases that would not look out of place in advertising copy). Because of this, I will not be restoring the article, and again I urge you to not write about the company. Besides, having an article about the company is not not necessarily something to aspire to.
I would also urge you not to go around adding links to Scepter Publishers, as that will be considered spamming, and may result in you getting blocked.
If you believe that you are able to write about Scepter Publishing in a neutral manner, then I recommending putting a request in to Deletion Review. You MUST be up front with your connection to Scepter Publishing: read the policy on being a paid contributor. Stephen! Coming... 11:26, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I'll use the wizard. And write it in a collaborative manner. Is there a way to access the deleted content? I do believe Scepter Publishers passes the standard for notability. It's founding Director, Fr. Joseph Muzquiz, is on the road to sainthood. In its history, it's published many important works of historical value that impact people every day. Look at all the references to Scepter Publishers, Scepter Publishing, Scepter Publications (the correct way to refer to it is: Scepter Publishers or merely Scepter). Before I do a deletion review, can we come to a resolution? I would like access to the old content so I can rewrite in an encyclopedic fashion.

I had found a copy of the articles of incorporation from 1952 (which I had posted), showing Venerable Fr. Joseph Muzquiz as the founding Director. He was one of the three original priests of Opus Dei, and personally sent by St. Josemaria Escriva to the United States.

Before you deleted the page, I had removed all the offending links, and was in the process of rewriting it in a neutral style per your request. I will disclose my affiliation with the organization.

I think it is an important page because of all the references to Scepter Publishers, Scepter Publishing, Scepter Publications in so many places. LesTP 14:43, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

LesTP,
  • Please sign your contributions on talk pages with ~~~~ rather than typing in your username and time manually. It adds links to your user account and talk page and is recognisable to the wiki's tools.
  • Your argument that the article should be recreated because there are so many links to Scepter would carry more weight had you not added so many of the references yourself.
  • Your argument for the company's notability, that Escriva sent Muzquiz to the US where he founded Scepter is known as WP:INHERIT and is not generally accepted. Expecting Scepter to be notable at two steps removed is not going to work.
  • WP:DRV is the route to getting the text back, it's a review before getting the text back, not after.
Regards, Cabayi (talk) 15:02, 8 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It wasn't my intention to argue. I was just trying to be helpful. Those links are all still there and were made by others with the incorrect name. They've been there for years.

Would you consider restoring it to draft space for improvement, please? I will follow the guidelines you suggested. LesTP 21:47, 8 April 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by LesTP (talkcontribs)

LesTP, By "argument" I meant "a reasoned case", not "bickering". The reasons you're advancing aren't convincing. And I'll repeat, WP:DRV is the route to getting the text back, it's a review before getting the text back, not after. Regards, Cabayi (talk) 10:52, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
LesTP Just to let you know, I had accidentally omitted the word "not" from the sentence urging you not to write about the company. I have inserted it now, but I draw your attention to it as extra emphasis that you really shouldn't be writing about this company. Stephen! Coming... 14:16, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
LesTP In answer to your other question, could I reinstate your text in Draft, as was suggested to you at Request for Undeletion? The answer is still no. This is because you have a conflict of interest, and I believe you to be acting as a paid writer for this company, and to make things worse, you still have not formally declared your connection to this company. You need to go to Deletion Review (sorry about the incorrect link above; that has been corrected now) and state your case. You also need to declare your connection with this company at WP:PAID. It is vitally important that you do declare these, or you run the risk of being blocked from editing and the page being deleted. Stephen! Coming... 14:31, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I was just getting ready to respond to you when I saw your messages. What you're telling me, what you've told me, and what I've learned is that it's best that I not write the page. Or if I enlist the help of a third party to correct all the errors and start a stub that I disclose my affiliation. Also we have to make a better argument regarding notability, because inherent notability does not count on Wikipedia. Is that it? So it's probably best not to request a review to get the content back because it needed to be rewritten anyway. Thank you for your patience. LesTP 14:49, 9 April 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by LesTP (talkcontribs)

Why does it say my posts are unsigned? I add the tildes each time? Apologies for the troubles. LesTP 14:58, 9 April 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by LesTP (talkcontribs)

LesTP, My best guess is that on Special:Preferences you've put the plain text "LesTP" in the Signature box. Blank the box & save your preferences so that the default sig will be used. The default contains links to your user page and talk page & will be recognised. If it's not that I'm stumped. Cabayi (talk) 21:20, 9 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Explain the reason

Please Explain the reason why you deleted the page Rentseeker.ca? Have you checked notability?