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Michael, According to the Jimmy Eat World website, the album ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR was released in 1994, not 1995. Please do some more fact-checking.

Also, please do not include to-be-announced albums. Include them after they are released.

Thanks,

cprompt

Michael,

False attributions of comments on talk pages is a bannable offense. Also, the validity of the information you've entered into the Grammy pages has been called into question. Entering fake information, if that's what you're doing, is also a bannable offense.

It's very important if you want to stick around and help with the wikipedia, that you answer inquiries on your talk page, and that you work in a positive and co-operative fashion.

Jimbo Wales 12:01 Mar 10, 2003 (UTC)

Michael, what is your source for the release dates of albums? Usually I can find no information on exact dates. On the only occasion I have, the date I found was different from the one you added to the article (see Talk:Public Affection). -- sannse 21:33 Mar 11, 2003 (UTC)

Michael, your antagonistic behavior is beginning to really annoy people. Please be more friendly. If you'd like, you should join the wikien-l mailing list to discuss these issues before it gets out of hand. It's simply unacceptable to answer legitimate content questions by saying "It's none of your business." Come on, now, why be that way? Jimbo Wales 14:45 Mar 12, 2003 (UTC)

The quality and accuracy of all Wikipedia articles is everyone's business. In fact, it's our only business, since our mutual aim is to create high-quality, accurate article here. This is not an "opinion board", but a project to create a free encyclopedia. We are all accountable to each other.

I hope you will feel comfortable working with us, and please tell me what I can do to make your "stay" here more pleasant and rewarding. --Uncle Ed 14:55 Mar 12, 2003 (UTC)

Could you perhaps explain your reasons for blanking this talk page? If not here, then somewhere else? We just want to talk with you - it doesn't matter where... Martin
What-fucking-ever Michael

Hey. Please don't add junk to articles. Writing "George Washington had sex with women and touching other peoples penises." on 1751 is not on. -- Tarquin 23:55 Mar 13, 2003 (UTC)

Yeah, he did have sex in 1751 (i'm serious). Really, i'm serious girl or boy. Look it up from the opposite sex. A guy named peter knows.


What has that porn site got to do with George Washington? -- Tarquin 00:05 Mar 14, 2003 (UTC)

I said go to the opposite sex you idiot! that's where you'll find his evacuation sex.

Yeah. I clicked that link. The link you've type above is http://www.firstgaytime.com . It appears to be a gay porn site. You might want to quote what it is you're referring to. -- Tarquin 00:14 Mar 14, 2003 (UTC)

It was a joke. I was kidding. Of course didn't let girls suck George Washington's penis and let his wife suck on her friend who is a girl's vagina.

Fair enough. But please don't play jokes on article pages. People come to this site all the time, every second of the day, looking for information. We don't want them to find things like that in articles. It also makes extra work because someone (me in this case) has to clean in up. cheers. -- Tarquin 13:28 Mar 14, 2003 (UTC)


What source are you using that tells you Crass recorded demos in 1976? It has been pointed out on Talk:Crass that they didn't. Could you please explain why you think they did if you are going to keep adding that information to pages. --Camembert

Also, why are you adding links to non-existent images such as on Slowhand? --Camembert

I am not -- Michael

Dear Michael: Welcome to The Wikipedia and I hope you enjoy your stay here. I saw that in only one day you have about 20 collaborations (pages and edits) done. That must be a record.

Down to business: I saw that you want your page about a music album not to be edited, as you stated it yourself. You will have to get used to having your articles edited. Why? Because as much as we want to be, none of us here are the know-it-all of the world and someone else with valuable information will probably come and add it. Not only that, but wiki-people also want encyclopedic like phrases on the site. For example, when you said The next year, they released feeding the 5000 in 1980, someone will probably change it to In 1980, they released...'

I hated getting edited at first, no secret about that. But I began to think that if it is a good edit with valuable information that I did not have, then why not? I get mad when people put things that make no sense. But I realized that if they add good info I didnt add, then my article looks better.

Other than that, good to have you here. Enjoy and I hope to read more of your articles soon.

God bless you!

Sincerely yours, Antonio Pink Head Martin

Fine

Please don't change my userpage. And please check your facts before you add them to the Wikipedia. Thanks, Tuf-Kat

Well, I'm sure you'll delete this and all, but at least it will be in the history. Please don't make duplicate articles under alternate capitalizations (e.g. Toys in the Attic, Toys In The Attic). In case you don't know, you put a the text #redirect XXX and clicking on the link will automatically take you to the article entitled XXX.

Do you make up information to add to articles? You seem to have an amazingly high proportion of simply incorrect additions. Would you mind doing some additional fact-checking?

Thanks for taking the time to delete my suggestions, Tuf-Kat

OK -- Michael

I like beans. -- Stevertigo

Me too -- Michael

Please stop adding utterly incorrect information to pages such as Album of the Year. It's getting to the stage where people are going to revert your changes even without checking them simply because much of your information is demonstrably inaccurate. Camembert


Michael, you're going to have to reply to people when they talk to you here. THis is how Wikipedia works. -- Tarquin 17:52 Mar 15, 2003 (UTC)

OK! Fine! - Michael

Michael, I don't think it's appropriate to mention KROQ on the articles about bands. Bands such as Crass or Rainbow have their music played on radio stations all over the world; we're not going to list them all. -- Tarquin 00:49 Mar 17, 2003 (UTC)

I know we're not going to list Crass or Rainbow on our subject called History of KROQ. But, I like it when that page is there.
Wikipedia isn't about what we might 'like', it's about what is true, accurate and relevant, and 'KROQ' have sod all to do with Crass quercus robur 09:11 Mar 17, 2003 (UTC)
Fine!

Please don't move albums, or anything else, to subpages (e.g. Mötley Crüe/Shout at the Devil). The Wikipedia software doesn't support subpages, so it should be put at the most easily-linked to title, Shout at the Devil. Tuf-Kat

Along the same lines, what's your source for saying that Motley Crue formed in 1979? A quick search shows that the year was either 1980 or 1981. What are your intentions here, Michael? You've done an enormous amount of work, but much of it is littered with questionable facts that you don't provide support for. -- Stephen Gilbert

I saw this information from a fan website about Mötley Crüe, sir

Well sir, do you have a link, sir? My quick and dirty Google search shows a pretty even mix of 1980 and 1981 as the year, but no mentions of 1979. -- Stephen Gilbert

Copied from Nevermind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols talk page;

Removed

"Four songs previously appeared on 1976's live EP, The Mini-Album, which was recorded live from July 13 through July 30." from Nevermind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols;

Michael, please do a modicum of research before adding to these entries.

There was no 1976 live ep, the mini album is one of a slew of 'semi official' and bootleg releases of recordings of demos and such like that appeared long AFTER the Pistols ceased to be a creative force (it's called 'cashing in', Micheal). The tracks on the mini album were in fact demo's recorded with producer Dave Goodman from July 76, October 76 and possibly Jan 77, BUT WERE NOT RELEASED UNTIL MUCH LATER AS A SEMI-BOOTLEG!!!

The Pistols did not release ANYTHING before the single "Anarchy in the UK" in November 1976, it was their debut, and much awaited and anticipated at the time, I remember, I was there!!!!! Their next release was "God Save the Queen" in May 1977, in between THEY DID NOT HAVE A RECORD CONTRACT!!!.

There may be a case for adding a page to wiki devoted to Pistols bootlegs, but these should not be confused with the band's 'official' output, which is what counts in terms of chronology and an understanding of the history and context of The Pistols and the wider punk movement in which they existed, and the sociology of what was going on in the UK in 70's.

Sorry for the shouting but Michael is really exasperating me with his attempts at rewriting the history of UK punk. quercus robur 11:29 Mar 20, 2003 (UTC)

A few suggestions:

  • As several people have already requested, please do some fact-checking. Simple things like release dates are easy to find. Do not make them up.
    • You seem to use some very different definitions of genres than others. Do you really classify Rush as punk and Fugazi as emo? If so, your POV should be represented; if not, then please refrain from describing them as such.
  • A self-titled album is not called Self-Titled. It is called The Ramones, Fugazi or something similar. Please refer to self-titled albums with their title.
  • Please do not make duplicate articles, like at Fugazi and Fugazi (band).
  • Please do not use subpages, like at Coal Chamber/Dark Days.
  • The word is performed, not preformed.
  • BAND makes contact to RECORD LABEL does not make sense in English. As you've probably deduced by seeing others change it, please use BAND signs to RECORD LABEL or BAND signs a contract with RECORD LABEL.
  • Please do not put the recording of albums in the year in music pages unless the recording was otherwise significant. That will make the lists of events much too long to be useful.
    • Similarly, please do not add when people like Rivers Cuomo go to college to the year in music pages. (1988 in music)
    • Do not randomly place bullets under unrelated bullets (1988 in music).
  • In English, the word blockbuster is not a synonym for popular. It is superlative, and means extremely popular. (1988 in music -- Time Odyssey was not a blockbuster)
  • Please use complete sentences (e.g. see my fix at Nothing's Shocking)
  • The subject of an article should be bolded on its first occurrence only.
  • Please don't erase all or part of talk pages. (e.g. Talk:Crass)

Thanks, Tuf-Kat

Yes sir, I will not erase Talk:Crass.

e.g. means for example, so you need to not erase any talk page at all. Tuf-Kat
And do you agree to follow my other requests? Tuf-Kat

Alex Lifeson's Victor was released in 1996 [1]. Please check your information with a reputable source before posting it. -- goatasaur

Good evening. I see you have deleted a stack of talk page comments again - please do not do this. I see you have kept adding incorrect info to articles again and then readding it even after its incorrectness has been pointed out - please do not do this. I don't know how much patience other people have left with you, but I have none, and if you carry on editing the way you are doing now I shall be sorely tempted to revert all your edits on sight. I hope the remainder of your weekend is pleasant. --Camembert

I agree - I'm getting fed up too. Michael, you are going to have to realize that this is not your personal playground and if you continue to do sloppy work and continue to ignore the wishes of other contributers then we will revert all your changes as soon as you make them. Please understand that we only wish the best for the project and will defend it when it's quality is being reduced by any single member. --mav
Just as a note to future readers, Michael blanked this talk page mere minutes after Mav left this last comment and a few hours after semi-agreeing to my request above. Tuf-Kat

Michael, since English does not appear to be your first language, I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt on the issue of complete sentences, and I will assume you have difficulty writing sentences. First time making movies from 1991-2003. is not a sentence because there is no subject, nor a verb. A sentence needs to have a person or other thing which does an action. For example, Alan Cummings began making movies in 1991 has a subject (Alan Cummings) which does an action (began making movies; note making can not be a verb alone, it requires a helper such as began or is or has been). Giving a timespan (such as 1991-2003) in this case doesn't work because the sentence is about the beginning of his acting career, which occurred in 1991 and not 2003 or any of the years in between. Thank you for trying to write in sentences... Tuf-Kat

Please don't include see alsos that are not obviously related unless there is an explanation for why the link is relevant. In addition, please don't make lists of similar artists and such (like at Alan Cummings). See Talk:Fiona Apple for the reason why. (I know this last request has no consensus, but no one has argued against my reasoning, so I am treating it as such) Tuf-Kat

Yeah, yeah, yeah. WHAT FUCKING EVER! - Michael
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