Talk:USS Fitzgerald

Ships Start‑class

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Ships, a project to improve all Ship-related articles. If you would like to help improve this and other articles, please join the project, or contribute to the project discussion. All interested editors are welcome. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.ShipsWikipedia:WikiProject ShipsTemplate:WikiProject ShipsShips articles
Start	This article has been rated as Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.

Military history: Maritime / North America / United States Start‑class

This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.Military historyWikipedia:WikiProject Military historyTemplate:WikiProject Military historymilitary history articles

Start

This article has been rated as Start-class on the project's quality scale.

This article has not yet been checked against the criteria for B-class status:
Referencing and citation: not checked Coverage and accuracy: not checked Structure: not checked Grammar and style: not checked Supporting materials: not checked	To fill out this checklist, please add the following code to the template call: \| b1<!--Referencing and citation--> = <yes/no> \| b2<!--Coverage and accuracy --> = <yes/no> \| b3<!--Structure --> = <yes/no> \| b4<!--Grammar and style --> = <yes/no> \| b5<!--Supporting materials --> = <yes/no> assessing the article against each criterion.

Associated task forces:
/
	Maritime warfare task force
	North American military history task force
	United States military history task force

Ship's crest

Is "crest" the usual terminology for the badge/coat of arms in the USN? Heraldicly it's of course not correct, as is especially clear here when the article ends up talking about the (heraldic) crest as part of the coat of arms as part of... the ship's crest. If it's the predominant usage in practice though, we're probably stuck with it. If not, wouldn't it be much clearer to say "badge", or something? Alai 16:49, 9 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The collision

... should be at the bottom of the history section. If anywhere yet, because it's too early to report on this incident in an "enclopedia" - which this obviously is not. 98.194.39.86 (talk) 01:56, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Getting run into by a container ship, with serious damage, some berthing compartments flooded, multiple serious injuries, and 7 sailors missing? Do you think this is not worth mentioning in the article about the ship? Edison (talk) 02:37, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- He said it was "too early" and did not say "not worth mentioning", clearly he doesn't know that Wikipedia has become the place to find concise and summarized info about current events (I use it so) and he is thinking about old-style encyclopedias. --DelftUser (talk) 12:02, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Damage to Starboard would indicate that the Destroyer did cross the Boxcarriers course from the left and thus was in a "give way" position. ( Going further all parties have to actively avoid a collision even if the rules are broken .. ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.57.204.183 (talk) 16:52, 25 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Damage to starboard can also be done by an overtaking vessel approaching from the starboard quarter and thus the Cargo could be the give way vessel. The difference between a Crossing and an Overtaking situation is a matter of whether the other vessel is approaching at 22.5 degree abaft the beam, or less. This is a matter of investigation to determine and damage to Fitzgerald's starboard side does NOT in itself confirm that it was the Give Way vessel. Way too much speculation on the behalf of idjits who only think they know what they are talking about because they took a few seconds to look something up on the internet without real understanding of the matter.

Cg23sailor (talk) 06:34, 27 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think the collision should be in the Lede. Makes the article read more like a newspaper and less like an encyclopeida.2001:AC8:23:6:0:0:0:1E (talk) 17:24, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

ACX Crystal

Particulars on this vessel can be found at http://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/details/ships/shipid:722169/mmsi:548789000/imo:9360611/vessel:ACX_CRYSTAL

Kablammo (talk) 02:07, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Brad Lendon of CNN[1] and other sources are confusing gross tonnage with displacement. We should stick to the marinetraffic.com site linked above. Kablammo (talk) 12:23, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

And the BBC gets it wrong too. Somehow I expected better from the BBC. Kablammo (talk) 01:28, 18 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

And The Guardian Kablammo (talk) 17:33, 18 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 2 external links on USS Fitzgerald. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 08:16, 17 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If you're adding to the Collision section, consider adding to the Collision article instead

Hi, all. The June 17 collision has its own Wikipedia article; if you're inclined to add info to the ship's page, consider making the edits to the collision page instead. PRRfan (talk) 17:21, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]