Talk:Liturgical music

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The page on Gregorian chant says there is little relation between Christian and Hebrew liturgical music. Can anyone reconcile this?

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The article appears to be based on an article in the Catholic Encyclopedia (1913), though the notice is misplaced and it would be better if there were more sources and inline citations.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 05:28, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Merge with Church music

"Liturgical music" and "Church music" seems to be the same concept, and none of the two voices shows what the differences between the two denominations may be. On Encyclopædia Britannica there is only one item, "Liturgical music, also called church music". I therefore suggest that Church music be merged here. --BohemianRhapsody (talk) 07:49, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

The church music article is about ten months older, and has consistently more than double the page views except for a few spikes over the past two years. Church music also has many more inbound links. It's likely a difference between common Amercian English usage and technical usage. The Canadian Encylopedia does not have an individual entry for either but has several denominational or sectarian "church music" articles such as http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/protestant-church-music-emc/ . Church music seems the right place. Walter Görlitz (talk) 08:04, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

I strongly disagree that Church music and Liturgical Music be merged, as they are not identical. "Liturgical Music" is a subset of "Church Music". In other words, all Liturgical Music is Church Music, but not all Church Music is Liturgical Music. I suggest that each article reference the other in a "see also" note, or at the very least, continue to include the Liturgical Music article and refer readers to a section of Church Music called "Liturgical Music". In practical usage, at least in the US, "Church Music" refers to anything used in any Christian church, in a service or not; while "Liturgical Music" would imply something definitely intended to be used in a service of worship, and perhaps even required. "Liturgical Music" means music composed to texts for traditional Christian liturgies, i.e., musical settings of texts (often required texts) for rites in more liturgical churches, e.g., Roman Catholic, Episcopal, Orthodox, Lutheran, while "Church Music" would mean those and also a lot of music which is not by any means part of an historical liturgy, such as music used for Baptist, Quaker, Pentecostal, non-denominational, and other non-liturgical churches, which do not have a set or required form of worship. "Church Music" can even be used to mean music composed for events not even a service of worship, such as religious education classes, concerts, or even music with secular texts used to teach music reading. While it is true that these non-liturgical church usually develop a plan for their worship services (usually called "worship", not "service") which can be considered as a liturgy, they are rarely (if ever) designed like the traditional liturgies required by most of the liturgical churches mentioned above, and people attending their "worship" would object to the term liturgy if it was ever used. "Liturgical Music" would always mean something composed for the traditional liturgies, even if the music is performed in other settings. There are more hits on "Liturgical Music" because people searching "Liturgical Music" are more likely to be seeking scholarly knowledge, and want to avoid an overwhelming amount of music and information which will be useless to them if they search "Church Music"VirginiaSMoe (talk) 15:26, 22 July 2017 (UTC).