Talk:Algiers expedition (1541)

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- ... that in the 1541 Algiers expedition (pictured) Holy Roman Emperor Charles V lost more than 100 ships and nearly lost his life?
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I launch a Request for comment about the Algiers regency's flag in 1541. --Panam2014 (talk) 23:29, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

According to others academic sources, the flag was different:

Alexandre Rang, Histoire d'Aroudj et de Khaïr-ed-din. « le déploiement d'un grand drapeau national formé de trois bandes de soie, rouge, verte et jaune, et orné de croissant d'argent » [1]
Nadir Assari, Alger: des origines à la régence turque. « A l'époque turque, le drapeau d'Alger était formé de trois bandes de soie rouge, verte et jaune. » [2]
Marius Bernard, L'Algérie qui s'en va. « Rien n'y manque, pas même la longue hampe où flotta si longtemps l'insolent drapeau de la régence avec ses trois bandes horizontales, jaune en bas, rouge en haut, vert au milieu. » [3]
Sander Rang,Ferdinand Denis,Jean-Michel Venture de Paradis, Fondation de la régence d'Alger: histoire des Barberousse, « ; c'était du haut de ses vastes terrasses sur lesquelles flottait l'étendard rouge, jaune et vert ». [4]
Mouloud Gaïd : L'Algerie sous les Turcs, p.58 : « Le grand drapeau d'Alger, formé de trois bandes de soie, rouge, verte, jaune, se déploya majestueusement au-dessus de la porte »"

--Panam2014 (talk) 23:29, 9 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support (Summoned by bot) I am fine with the flag being added to the infobox. L3X1 (distænt write) )evidence( 20:50, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm also fine with the flag being added to the infobox. The majority of the sources cited above must be discarded for two reasons :
- the flag they describe is not the one used in 1541, but the one used later. It's like trying to impose the actual US flag for some thing that happened between 1777 and 1795.
- According to WP:AGE MATTERS, "newer secondary and tertiary sources may have done a better job of collecting more reports from primary sources and resolving conflicts, applying modern knowledge to correctly explain things that older sources could not have, or remaining free of bias that might affect sources written while any conflicts described were still active or strongly felt".

Moreover, Mouloud Gaïd has based his work on Algiers expedition on Galibert's work (first published in 1834), so WP:AGE MATTERS applies too in this case. --Ms10vc (talk) 17:37, 24 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]