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"needs better references"?

Why is Luke Rosiak from The Daily Caller:

not a good reference? --87.156.225.84 (talk) 13:47, 31 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

According to WP:NEWSORG: "News reporting from less-established outlets is generally considered less reliable for statements of fact." Since this is a WP:Biography of a living person, we need to have a higher standard of sources, especially for information that could be considered contentious, including a lot of The Daily Caller's reporting on this individual. FallingGravity 01:51, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for responding! Both articles from Andrew C. McCarthy (a senior fellow at the National Review Institute) are based on articles from Luke Rosiak in The Daily Caller. Rosiak was the investigative reporter. I got the impression, but may be wrong, all others are reprinting/processing his work.
Daily Caller links about Imran Awan
*http://dailycaller.com/2017/02/04/exclusive-house-intelligence-it-staffers-fired-in-computer-security-probe/
The Daily Caller launched on January 11, 2010. It is now seven years old. When is a medium established enough to be quoted in the WP? --87.156.235.82 (talk) 08:22, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It isn't just about age, it's more about their commitment to fact-checking and correcting mistakes. The National Review has such a reputation, but the Daily Caller doesn't have that at the moment. (P.S. I've collapsed the list of links you've provided, since they may be useful for research but could also be considered linkspam.) FallingGravity 15:51, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Kimberley A. Strassel from WSJ - Aug. 3, 201: "... According to an analysis by the Daily Caller’s Luke Rosiak, who has owned this story, ..." - Indisputably Rosiak is the reference ;-) --87.156.232.221 (talk) 20:01, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Giraldi/The American Conservative

@FallingGravity: Why did you deleted with no explanation or commentary: [1] ??? Philip Giraldi is a former counter-terrorism specialist and military intelligence officer of the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) - he is a good references. --87.156.232.221 (talk) 19:52, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, first I was in a hurry and forgot to provide an explanation, which I'll provide here. Whether or not he had a security clearance could be relevant for this article, but the phrase "and it is not even certain that they were in any way checked out before being hired" doesn't tell us anything about how they were hired except that there is currently a lack of public knowledge. FallingGravity 21:03, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
My motto: "stick to what the source says" ;-) The Awan brothers had complete and direct access to information of three extremely sensitive committees: The House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, the Homeland Security Committee and the House Foreign Affairs Committee. The access to the information they had, along with their known or suspected affiliations to such groups as Hezbollah has shaken government insiders with knowledge about the case. --87.156.232.221 (talk) 22:14, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]