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Asperger's?

Why is there a separate section for Asperger's while it isn't even a diagnosis anymore. There's only Autism Spectrum Disorder.

Efficacy

This page should be reformatted to reflect the DSM-5 as the current order is too cumbersome and disorganized. Also maybe there should be a list of movies where the metal disorder is of a main character of the movie, and another list for those movies that portray mental disorder but by a non-main character (and as such is only a small part of the movie as opposed to a greater part of the movie such as if one of the main characters portrayed a mental disorder) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuzad (talk • contribs) 14:44, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Redundancy

Either this page, or Mental illness portrayed in media is redundant. One should be removed or the two should be merged.

Donnie Darko

Why is Donnie Darko on the list? Richard kelly said on the DVD commentary of the film that Donnie was not mentally ill and only was perceived by others to be.66.146.59.114 (talk) 22:24, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Category?

Would this not work better as a category? Unless there is something substantial to say about this as a subject, it seems to be merely a list of related films, i.e. a category. In fact, it seems closely related to [1]. Cheers, Doctormatt (talk) 06:56, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Or a list?GuySperanza (talk) 19:30, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, this page suites better for a category. Actually I couldn't find any suitable category for some films which features mental illness, such as Bipolar disorder. ʂaɳɖaƙɘɭʉɱ ʈaɭƙ 02:31, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Additional movies to add?

I think you should add the movie The Swimmer (1968). It certainly deals with a main character dealing with some form of mental illness.

Also, I would consider adding the movie The Rain People (1969) since that involves a main character with mental instability although that was caused by physical trauma and not necessarily by an illness.

Thanks G2thef (talk) 06:41, 27 September 2008 (UTC)g2thef[reply]

Also, Prozac Nation with Christina Ricci. No debate there.


Numerous examples spring to mind of "Movie Madness" (entry title proposed) with "Mental Illness In Film" as their theme: One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest; Rain Man; Sling Blade; Dr Jekyll And Mr Hyde; The Color Of Night; Play Misty For Me; Fatal Attraction; Psycho; Primal Fear; The Swimmer; Sunset Boulevard; The Three Faces Of Eve; Vertigo; Spellbound; Basic Instinct; Single White Female; The Silence Of The Lambs; Regarding Henry; Marnie; As Good As It Gets; The Number 23; Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind; Forest Gump; Away From Her; On Golden Pond; The Notebook; Mommie Dearest; The Cable Guy; Who's Afraid Of Virginia Woolf; One Hour Photo; etc.. ChApogee (talk) 18:31, 14 December 2014 (UTC)chApogee — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChApogee (talk • contribs) 17:14, 14 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Way too broad

One can argue that even Passchendaele or Patton deal fundamentally with mental illness even if there is no dialogue to support that conclusion, as certainly the main characters suffer from issues of some sort related to mental function. Really, who doesn't? Was Anakin Skywalker really a well man after becoming Darth Vader? Where does one draw the line? The mention of John Rambo in this article suggests that isn't a fatuous question. 139.48.25.60 (talk) 18:56, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect that one inappropriate listing might be Fight Club, judging by the description in its article. But since I've seen only a few minutes of this film, I'll defer to someone who has seen the whole thing. I also agree regarding Rambo and some of the other films of mayhem. I think the thing to do, if a film clearly is not principally and bona fide about some aspect of mental health, is simply to delete it from the list. Nihil novi (talk) 03:08, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If you ever see the rest of "Fight Club", you'll find that it's completely appropriate. Whether it contains a realistic depiction of a disorder may be another story, but mental illness is a central theme of the movie. John Rambo (his post-traumatic stress disorder was the driving motive behind the events of "First Blood") is also a fairly explicit example. Where I'd take exception is that list of characters where mental illness is used to comic effect. A couple of them are tagged as "dubious", but I don't see a single good example in the bunch. In fact, that list is so bad (Joey Tribbiani? Are you kidding?) as to make me wonder whether it's the work of a vandal.GuySperanza (talk) 19:23, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You may be right. Try making some changes! Nihil novi (talk) 20:25, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Temple Grandin?? Autism is not a mental illness at all 118.210.14.71 (talk) 11:40, 15 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mental illness for comedic effect

The first two sentences are tagged as dubious. As I see it, they're OK, they just need a citation. Where it falls apart is the list of examples. The only goofier thing than those characters themselves, is the idea of trying to present them as examples of mental illness. This should be a list of characters who are explicitly mentally ill. For a starting point, consider "Crazy People" (numerous patients' conditions are played for comedy), Cpl. Klingler in "MASH" (malingerer with faked symptoms), Jim Carrey's multiple-personality character from "Me, Myself and Irene", Bobcat Goldthwait's depressive/suicidal character in "Bachelor Party", and nearly every male character in "There's Something About Mary", including the developmentally disabled Warren.GuySperanza (talk) 19:40, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why not give it a try? Nihil novi (talk) 20:21, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Inception

Perhaps I'm remembering Inception incorrectly but I can't remember any real instances of mental. Maybe Mal, but I'm not too sure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wickedxjade (talk • contribs) 10:29, 30 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am Sam?!?

Pretty sure that Sam had a mental handicap. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.116.216.83 (talk) 03:37, 27 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I hope movies other than in English is also fine

I hope movies in other languages such as Hindi and Tamil are fine. So, I added 2 movies, 3 (2012) and Ghajini (2008). Feel free to remove them, if authors found it is not relative. But allow me, they are great movies which describes the situation through unimaginable emotional tales. Thank you. ʂaɳɖaƙɘɭʉɱ ʈaɭƙ 02:29, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Suicide

I would like to remove suicide, because it is not a mental illness. Please comment! Lova Falk talk 18:03, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge with List of films featuring mental disorders

These seem to be similar ideas and could be combined Jackson Peebles (talk) 19:54, 21 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I would support merger of "Mental illness in film" with "List of films featuring mental disorders", if
1. the resulting article took the title "Mental disorders in film", which is more concise and terminologically precise;
2. the disorders were reconciled, with inclusion in the merged article of some disorders from "List of films featuring mental disorders" that are absent in "Mental illness in film", e.g., "histrionic personality disorder" (again, I prefer the overall classification found in "Mental illness in film", because it is simpler and more direct, and avoids certain controversial diagnostic bundlings, e.g., of post-traumatic stress disorder as an anxiety disorder);
3. the film entries within the disorders were reconciled between the two current articles.
It would also be desirable to provide an expanded introduction, based on information from published sources, on the character and history of film portrayals of mental disorders.
Nihil novi (talk) 23:03, 24 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent points. I italicized "disorders" only to suggest a change of "illness" to "disorders", as has been done in the sister article's title. The "Mental illness in fiction#Motion pictures" introduction could indeed be adapted for the merged article, especially if a more specific reference (if only a "passim" and publication information) could be provided to "Hockenbury and Hockenbury, 2004". Nihil novi (talk) 18:57, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Mental disorders is better in the title than mental illness, because many people say that autism, ADHD and personality disorders are not mental illnesses; they are however, undoubtedly mental disorders. Jim Michael (talk) 01:33, 12 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Done

"General list"

Could someone please explain the meaning and purpose of the "General list" that has been added at the top of this article?
Do all of its film entries duplicate entries found in the article's diagnostic listings? Some (e.g., "A Beautiful Mind) do.
Nihil novi (talk) 01:12, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The current "General list" of 24 random films, released between 1957 and 2012, at the top of the article, duplicates those films' entries in the diagnostic categories that follow and does not provide any sort of representative cross-section of films.
It differs from those films' categorized listings only in including IMDB ratings.
I propose eliminating the "General list".
If IMDB ratings are deemed helpful and accurate, they could be added to the films' categorized entries.
Thanks.
Nihil novi (talk) 21:29, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]
An almost identical table appears in "Mental illness portrayed in media: Movies", where it may serve a useful purpose. It serves no discernible purpose in our article on "Mental disorders in film".
I have therefore deleted it here.
Nihil novi (talk) 09:23, 23 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Any objections to adding Red Band Society to Eating Disorders?

Seeing as there are TV shows in here (like 13 Reasons Why), does anyone have any objections to adding the show Red Band Society to the sections Eating Disorders as Emma on the show had Anorexia Nervosa? --Hiway202 (talk) 07:35, 3 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If the anorexia nervosa is a substantial feature of a major character, I don't see why the Red Band Society couldn't be included.
Thanks.
Nihil novi (talk) 10:13, 3 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Calling out Dissociative Identity Disorder with outdated references and information

I think it's unneeded to call out DID with 1 citation, and saying that it's "one of the most controversial" diagnoses (judgement call) backed by an outdated article (2008) that predates the current 2013 DSM-V standards. There's plenty misinformation and dispute about DID which is far more suitable to be consolidated under the page for that disorder so that it does not need to be kept up-to-date in 2 places. Simply list the films and keep opinions, with or without a citation, out of it. The shaky nature of the film depictions of disorders (it's mainly a list, so possibly still uncalled for here) is sufficiently portrayed by the mention of 50 First Dates and a fictional style of amnesia — a fair and factual example of a specific movie that inaccurately portrays illnesses for the sake of a story arc without further demonizing or targeting a specific disorder and with no need to keep references up-to-date. Leave the controversy as to whether DID is real or not to its page where people can monitor its accuracy and there are boundless citations. The Crisses (talk) 18:00, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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