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Thank you! Vanjagenije (talk)

Thanks for the help :)

... by adding tags to the Watching-Eye Effect article :) I hope I'll soon find time to expand on it properly.

Regards, Benedict VividImpression (talk) 20:31, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User:Cristinaclcardoso

Hi! My article, "Park Jimin (musician)" has been created, like you said yesterday. However, it was created as a redirect article to the page BTS (band). How can I change that? I tired editing the source and putting the html all over again but after a few hours it went back on being a redirect page. I tried everything, but it still doesn't work... I'm sorry to bother, I'm just new in Wikipedia and this is my first article and I there's a lot of things I still don't know so I was wondering if you could help me out with this problem. Thank you very much!

User:Mrooney2017intern

Hi Vanjagenije. You blocked Mrooney2017intern and Wikitempm for meat/sock puppetry. I think that {{no ping|The Legacy Agency}] may be connected to them in some wayl. The account had been dormant for almost 2 years, but shows up today to make this edit to Kathryn Tappen . The files added by the account were all recently uploaded to Commons by Mrooney2017 within the past week or so, and it seems a bit unusual for The Legacy Agency account to find them without having any prior knowledge of them. Should I add the account to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mrooney2017intern? -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:46, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Marchjuly: Yes, please. Vanjagenije (talk) 08:27, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Understand. I have added the account to the SPI. -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:59, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jose Jorge T

Hi Vanjagenije,

User:Jose Jorge T is a sock of Jose Enes. I know it's probably not that big of a deal, but the SPI was archived without anyone noticing this. Could Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jose Jorge T be moved to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jose Enes? I would move it myself but wanted to ask you first, just to be sure. Sro23 (talk) 23:03, 3 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Sro23:  Done, Vanjagenije (talk) 23:57, 3 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sock puppet investigation request on User:Cleaner880

Hi Vanjagenije.., I see you have blocked User:Jasper0070 as a sockpuppet of User:JournalmanManila. A new account has emerge User:Cleaner880 which has similar attitude, modus operandi and agenda, which is pushing POV, pushing irrelevant images with purpose was probably undue promotion to include Philippines in everything, despite it was irrelevant, not contributing to the quality of the article, and somewhat bordering peacockery. The example are Cleaner880's edits on the article Woman and Crown (headgear)‎, this user seems to support and retrieves Jasper0070's edits. Please do investigate whether he/she user is a sockpuppet of User:JournalmanManila or User:Jasper0070. Thank you very much for your time and kind attention. —  Gunkarta  talk  09:27, 5 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Gunkarta: No, I have not blocked any of those users. Feel free to open an SPI investigation. Go to WP:SPI and follow the steps explained at "How to open an investigation" (type "JournalmanManila" for sockmaster). Vanjagenije (talk) 14:27, 5 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Okay.. thank you for your time. —  Gunkarta  talk  19:48, 5 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@User:Gunkarta just because I'm pushing the wp:verifiability I had been dragged to this ? So this the way how you deal with other users opposed your way or idea ? No I'm not I'm just only new account here my only fault is to deal with people who disrupts Philippine related articles like I P trollings (WP:Disruptive editing) I like what Indonesian trolls do on Philippine articles I protest(Cleaner880 (talk) 15:56, 5 August 2017 (UTC))[reply]
He probably is because Cleaner880 reverted me here accusing me of being a sockpuppet of a user whom I endorsed to be blocked at the very same time Cleaner880 is being accused of sockpuppetry. I wouldn't say that would be an appropriate behavior of a user. (N0n3up (talk) 01:01, 6 August 2017 (UTC))[reply]

Maxxheth SPI

Since you're the most recently active admin SPI clerk, would you mind taking a look at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Maxxheth and the findings there? I would normally let things go until one of you finds time to get to it, but since there's an open AFD involved, I think action is appropriate sooner rather than later. If you're able to get to it, great; if not, no worries. only (talk) 19:48, 6 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sprayitchyo SPI

As I see here, you have a history with Sprayitchyo's sockpuppets. Can you take care of this (Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sprayitchyo). Regards -Aṭlas (talk) 12:30, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Tali Rush article

Hello , Tali Rush is a producer , so i write an article about her , search on google about tali rush , please don't delete my article , Thanks Amazigh2968 (talk) 12:54, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Amazigh2968: Being a producer is not a proof of WP:NOTABILITY. Independent reliable sources are needed to prove the notability (see: WP:42). Per WP:BURDEN, it is your duty to provide reliable independent sources to prove the notability of the subject. Thus, you should search on Google and provide such reliable sources. Vanjagenije (talk) 14:42, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Amazigh2968: Facebook, Twitter, Instagram are not reliable independent sources. Please read carefully WP:Reliable. Vanjagenije (talk) 21:28, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Clerk training

I hate to keep pestering you about this. You said you should have more time in a few weeks when we last spoke about month ago. Any chance we can get started soon? Sir Sputnik (talk) 02:45, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Since it's been a couple of days, I'd like to make sure you've actually seen this post. Could you confirm please? Sir Sputnik (talk) 04:27, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Talk:Zapad-2017 exercise

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:Zapad-2017 exercise. Legobot (talk) 04:30, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User:Somebdy

Hi Vanjagenijie. Somebdy has re-added non-free content, etc. to their user talkpage and will likely continue to do so everytime it is removed. The account is a confirmed WP:SOCK which means that it will almost never be unblocked and it is the sockmaster who has to request to be unblocked, right? Maybe talk page access can be removed as well to prevent any further re-adding of the inappropriate content?-- Marchjuly (talk) 22:11, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Is it possible to take some decision about this sock[1]? Because the more time he is getting, more damage he is doing and has become a constant trouble. So I am requesting a quick block as enough evidence here [2] and here [3] in my opinion I have provided.-Umair Aj (talk) 21:23, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Is there something that we can do to stop this[4] fellow? I have provided more evidence of his sockpuppetry here[5] -Umair Aj (talk) 09:37, 12 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think that the link to the archive is missing from the case header page. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:00, 12 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Article Page; Athanasius of Alexandria..... His Study and Learning......

Dear Vanjagenije,

In the Page: Athanasius of Alexandria, the early Study section is without references throughout...... This section I did not write.... Only one quote claimed to quote from Cornelius Clifford's work.... I can check if that is correct as all those books are at my hand..... Do I bother....???

[ I need encouragement....]

MacOfJesus (talk) 13:41, 12 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to add citations to the article. Vanjagenije (talk) 13:53, 12 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I have located the exact quote and put it in ....Sozomen was quoted ... I found the exact reference and place in Cornelius Clifford...... However, the rest I could not find as any of the manuscripts I have do not show more detail of his education and study..... I doubt that a reference can be found as it may be conjecture....
MacOfJesus (talk) 21:25, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]


I have located an account of the famous Cathectical School of Alexandria but the wording and claims of the involvement with Athanasius I cannot find. Hence, I cannot verify it's credibility..... Other accounts avoid this and show each wanted to quote Athanasius as supporting them.... Hence, I think that the statements in the Article Page: Athanasius, should stay: "Citation Needed"... MacOfJesus (talk) 21:38, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

172.58.136.31

Could I please have talk page access revoked for user:172.58.136.31 as well as have her edits made invisible? 99.53.112.186 (talk) 20:44, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I revoked their talk page access. I see no reason to WP:revdel their edits. Vanjagenije (talk) 20:47, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Their edits contain pornography. We have kids using this site. 99.53.112.186 (talk) 20:47, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
That pornography is readily available from Wikipedia's sister project Wikimedia Commons. Kids can find it there more easily then to dig thru edit histories of pages. Vanjagenije (talk) 20:49, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am no admin, but I would suggest a longer block, I know IPs can't be blocked indefinitely, but only 2 days? this seems short for a vandal who had 30 edits revdel'ed and then put porn on their talk page after being blocked, I've seen users blocked for months for less severe vandalism. Tornado chaser (talk) 21:09, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Tornado chaser: The duration of block for an IP has nothing to do with the severity of vandalism. The IP is dynamic and may be assigned to different person within several hours. There is no point to block it for longer time if it will be assigned to a different person soon. If we notice that the IP is static, we block it for longer. (It's obviously dynamic in this case.) Vanjagenije (talk) 21:15, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Makes sense, I diden't know about dynamic IPs, I thought the IP would just start adding porn again in a few days. Tornado chaser (talk) 21:18, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Tornado chaser: He probably will, but with different IP address. He was already doing that few days ago ([6], different IP from the same IP range). But the range is busy, I can't block the whole range as that would also block many good willing editors. Vanjagenije (talk) 21:24, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hercules123! new account

Hi. I've noticed a few more disruptive Littlemixfan!, a possible Hercules123! new account. It looks like a WP:DUCK. 183.171.183.158 (talk) 17:06, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Proper place to report sockpuppetry is WP:SPI, not my talk page. Also, be sure to leave some evidence (WP:diffs) when filing SPI case. Vanjagenije (talk) 17:07, 14 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) An investigation was opened at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Hercules123!. livelikemusic talk! 00:09, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

May i ask how am i doing similar edits to Hercules123! because i don't know what kind of edits he/she does? Littlemixfan1 (talk) Use {{re|Littlemixfan!}}
to reply to me
17:42, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback - blocked user without malicious behaviour

Dear Vanjagenije, MolecularPlant here. I had some problems accessing the full capabilities on Wiki and you requested my IP to look into it as indeed you guys didn't find anywrongdoing on my side. (here's a link to my talk page). My IP address is 213.189.165.72. Thanks a million for the help! —Preceding undated comment added 19:54, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User Aergas propably Pob3qu3

Hello, it seems strange that the user aergas, who was involved in personal conflicts in the article of Mexicans of European descent, two years later comes the user pop3qu3 who makes the same editions, the same messages in the same pages. The user pob3qu3 removed references and reliable content to add doubtful content supported only by three sources that contein about racism in Mexico. Regards--Linderloop (talk) 00:37, 17 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Why you delete Thai team pages in 2017 Thaileague 5 tournament Northern Region ?

These team are real team which play in 2017 Thaileague 5 tournament Northern Region. The bottom level Thai league system. You see this linking of Thai league system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_football_league_system. These team are not out of league. --Aquaelfin (talk) 05:07, 17 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]


sorry I weak English i want to talk thai language พวกคุณเถียงกันเรื่องอะไร?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Seetun (talkcontribs) 05:36, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

New sock of user:Yahadzija

Hi, (pozdrav kolega),

It appears as user:Yahadzija made an another sock: User:Poglavar. So, I saw that you are already engaged with this matter, and maybe you could do what you think it appropriate. Thanks in advance, hvala i pozdrav. --C3r4 ((ask me)) 12:45, 17 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

SPI Clerk training

It's been a week since I first posted this. Given that you still haven't responded, I can only assume you didn't see my first post, so I'll repost this here in the hopes that it's more visible this time. Sir Sputnik (talk) 15:10, 17 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I hate to keep pestering you about this. You said you should have more time in a few weeks when we last spoke about month ago. Any chance we can get started soon? Sir Sputnik (talk) 02:45, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
Sorry, I'm really busy. Maybe I'l have more time soon. Vanjagenije (talk) 15:25, 17 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Are you able to give me a little more concrete of a time frame? When you say soon, are we talking days, weeks, months? I'd like to think it's not your intent, but kind of feels like you keep putting me off every time I ask about this. Sir Sputnik (talk) 16:01, 17 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
What I'm hoping that we could agree to a more fixed schedule for this, with the understanding that it can change if it has to. Given that it's been over a year since I first put my name forward for clerk training, I get the impression we're not actually going to get this off the ground without some better scheduling. Sir Sputnik (talk) 16:28, 17 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Vanjagenije, I see that your the right person to take care of SPI cases. I have been waiting for a while now so could you please take a look at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Snowsleeping and decide if the 2 accounts that I suspected are socks? Thanks. TheNewSMG (talk) 17:57, 17 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@TheNewSMG: SPI process is heavily backlogged at the moment. You have to be patient. Vanjagenije (talk) 18:16, 17 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Requested checkuser but take your time with taking a look at my case. Thanks! TheNewSMG (talk) 12:30, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sock puppet investigation request on a new group of DeniseJZ

I have added a new users that are probably new users of DeniseJZ's sock farm at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/DeniseJZ. Can you take a look at it, whenever you have time. Sundartripathi (talk) 04:20, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Никита-Родин-2002

Another sock case which was mistakenly reported by EvergreenFir have to merge those diffs at the main SPI page, have a look on the view history record, thanks. SA 13 Bro (talk) 16:36, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Gashi (tribe)

Hi,

I moved Gaši to Gaši (tribe), but when I wanted to created its talkpage I noticed that Gashi (tribe) was deleted by you and that I should first contact you before recreating it. I have intention to recreate this talkpage by addition of related WP tags. Can I do it?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 10:35, 26 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Antidiskriminator: Why did you move it? The title was WP:PRECISE enough, it didn't need any disambiguation. Vanjagenije (talk) 14:25, 26 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I moved it because I concluded that Gashi is the most commonly used name. Since Gashi article has already been created to cover only the surname and since Gashi article already had red wikilink to Gashi (tribe) in its "see also" section I decided to move Gaši to Gashi (tribe). But when I wanted to create its talkpage I saw the notification about deletion of that article, so I approached to you.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:20, 26 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Antidiskriminator: I deleted it when I deleted the article (it was created by a blocked user). You are free to recreate it. Vanjagenije (talk) 01:18, 27 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 14:03, 27 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
Thanks for trusting me! I am promising that I will not harm any tool of Wikipedia that causes me block once again. You deserve Best Unblock Barnstar but this seemed most perfect. Currently If you think I am misusing Wikipedia, please see my contributions. Nice admin work, Keep It Up!! SahabAliwadia 12:23, 26 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Problematic user

Hi, you have recently unblocked a user however the user is continue to disruptively editing as you can see here. --Saqib (talk) 16:32, 26 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You need to see these warnings left by this user on my talk page: User_talk:Saqib#August_2017 and Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:Saqib_reported_by_User:SahabAliwadia_.28Result:_.29. --Saqib (talk) 11:12, 27 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Talk:British Somaliland

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Talk:British Somaliland. Legobot (talk) 04:28, 27 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned non-free image File:Myplaythingkrystal Cover.jpg

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Why did you remove Serbian name from the title of the article?

Why did you unilaterally, and without any discussion, remove Serbian name from the title of the article Serbian Orthodox Cathedral of Saint George, Prizren? Please, revert your edits, and state your arguments on the talk page. Sorabino (talk) 18:20, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Sorabino: As I explained in the edit summary, the new title is WP:precise enough as there is no other Cathedral of St. George in Prizren except the Serbian Orthodox one. Sources cited in the article refer to the church as "Saborna crkva Svetog Đorđa u Prizrenu"[9][10], etc. I don't see any reason to add "Serbian Orthodox" to the title since it's not WP:COMMONNAME, nor is needed for disambiguation. Vanjagenije (talk) 18:24, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Please, revert your unilateral edits and state your reasons on the talk page of that article. You are a senior editor and an administrator. Sorabino (talk) 18:35, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Sorabino: I presented you detailed explanation why the page should be moved. You fail to present any explanation why the page should be moved back. I don't see any reason to move it back if you can't at least give some policy-based explanation. Vanjagenije (talk) 19:38, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
O man, are you for real? We are talking about Prizren! Do I have to go further? There is also a question of consistency here. For years nobody objected titles like Serbian Orthodox Cathedral in Zagreb and Serbian Orthodox Cathedral in Sarajevo. In my opinion, those titles are totally OK, and they were formulated in 2014 by User:Zoupan, who moved them to those titles, quite correctly. The article St. Sava Serbian Orthodox Cathedral also has "Serbian Orthodox" in the title, since its creation in 2013. So, was there anything wrong, really, with the title Serbian Orthodox Cathedral of Saint George, Prizren? Sorabino (talk) 19:54, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Sorabino: Zagreb and Sarajevo are obviously different cases as "Cathedral in Zagreb" and "Cathedral in Sarajevo" would not be precise enough (there is for example Catholic Cathedral in both Zagreb and Sarajevo). On the other hand, "Cathedral of Saint George, Prizren" is precise. There is no other Cathedral of Saint George in Prizren. I'm not sure what you mean by We are talking about Prizren! Do you think we shouldn't follow Wikipedia policies when it's about Prizren, or what? Vanjagenije (talk) 20:00, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I have the impression that you are avoiding the issue, by playing with words. Did you even read relevant articles on Christian cathedrals in Prizren? There is also a Roman-Catholic cathedral in Prizren: Cathedral of Our Lady of Perpetual Succour, Prizren, as there are roman-catholic cathedrals in Zagreb and Sarajevo. So, that can not be the argument for removing the "Serbian Orthodox" only from the title on the Serbian Orthodox Cathedral in Prizren. And regarding Prizren, you know very well how often editorial disputes are occurring regarding articles on Serbian heritage on Kosovo and Metohija, and that is one of main reasons why the article on Serbian Orthodox Cathedral in Prizren should have "Serbian Orthodox" in its title. Sorabino (talk) 20:14, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Sorabino: What you just wrote is a reason supporting my move, not against it. As you just wrote, the title of the article is "Cathedral of Our Lady of Perpetual Succour, Prizren", not "Roman Catholic Cathedral of Our Lady of Perpetual Succour, Prizren". And I don't see any connection between editorial disputes and a need to insert words "Serbian Orthodox" into article titles. Vanjagenije (talk) 20:23, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
On the contrary, by recognizing legitimacy of "Serbian Orthodox" in the titles of articles on Serbian Orthodox Cathedrals in Zagreb and Sarajevo, you implicitly recognized the validity of the same wording in the case of Serbian Orthodox Cathedral in Prizren. Sorabino (talk) 20:28, 2 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

SPI case from earlier this year

Hi Vanjagenije. You help with this previous case. I've had to re-open it, as the user is back, with the same pattern of editing. I'd be grateful if you could take a look, and if it's straight-forward enough, to close with a similar outcome as before. Any questions, please let me know. Thank you. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 09:11, 4 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]