Template:Did you know nominations/Mas Mansoer

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The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:33, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Mas Mansoer

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... that the National Hero of Indonesia and Islamic scholar Mas Mansoer was arrested for not convincing the people of Surabaya to surrender?

ALT1:... that the National Hero of Indonesia and Islamic scholar Mas Mansoer declared interest forbidden?
Reviewed: Not needed per current DYK rules

Created/expanded by Redyka94 (talk). Nominated by Crisco 1492 (talk) at 15:15, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

This needs to say that it's financial interest, not an interest in themselves, or another subject. Also - this isn't unique to him. Riba makes this out to be pretty standard. Secretlondon (talk) 19:38, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

ALT2... that the National Hero of Indonesia Mas Mansoer declared interest forbidden?

ALT2 links to the proper article and is hookier by not mentioning that he was a scholar of Islam. Regarding the differentiation between financial interest and emotional/psychological interest, I don't think the hook needs it so long as the article is clear. It is commonly referred to as simply "interest" in day-to-day conversation, and adding an indication that it was financial interest cuts down on the hookiness. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:11, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

I prefer ALT2 and everything checks out, except for one small point: in the hook "interest forbidden" links to riba, whereas in the article the link is to haraam – why the discrepancy? —Bruce1ee^talk 07:20, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

One is for a compound "interest forbidden", while the other has haraam directly. I'll link interest to riba, perhaps. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:59, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. ALT2 verified AGF: article seems fine, length and referencing fine, although some of my Google Book previews don't show the referenced pages; don't see any close paraphrasing for the refs I can see; hook is fine and correctly cited, although I'm assuming good faith for the offline ref. —Bruce1ee^talk 09:19, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the review! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:47, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Save for August 17 (Indonesia independence day) *Annas* (talk) 14:33, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

I don't mind. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:40, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Regrettably, the rules are a maximum hold of six weeks, which only takes us to mid-July from date of submission. Two months from today is definitely too far. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:42, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

We could, but I don't mind either which way. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:02, 22 June 2012 (UTC)