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A suggestion that there are certain features of the Gregorian calendar which do in any event perhaps permit easy calculation of any year dates

It seems that what is mentioned in the subject line above is not mentioned here or indeed ever dealt with anywhere on the Internet up to the present time and so far as I can make out (and I do not unfortunately happen to be an expert) they are not even dealt with in current published material with any particular clarity, at least in English. The fact surely remains (and I am of course open to contradiction on this Talk Page) that any period of four hundred years in the Gregorian calendar as from the 17th century )commencing in January 1600 AD) is so far as I can make out identical (thus the present century, the 21st century, is identical with the 17th century and likewise the following centuries must surely likewise therefore keep in the same order within the continuously repeating period of four hundred years). It being further the case that in each given century of any period of four hundred years the particular calendar form of a period of twentyeight years as from the year divisable by one hundred repeats itself (i.e. with three identical twenty-eight year periods and a further identical section of the first sixteen years of the twenty-eight year period in question, totalling the one hundred years of the century that is in question). It seems quite clear that this, whether mentioned or not at that time, is the character which must surely have been worked out by the rather clever people who created the Gregorian calendar towards the end of the 16th century and likewise it seems to myself that it should surely be taken into account by the people who believe for whatever reason that the Gregorian calendar should be modified or changed altogether, as is clearly with some persons currently the case, although without many details given as to how this matter is to be given some sort of legal status at an international level (that which must surely in itself be a problem ...). There are surely all sorts of other factors which I do not choose here to mention, but including in particular the significance in point of Christianity of what is in any event in many forms of society, Christian or not, a very long-running historical feature (namely the provision of seven days in one week without any exceptions, as has been mentioned elsewhere). Now it is the case that the particular character of the Gregorian calendar which I have mentioned (character of four hundred years and twenty-eight year period) happens to be the one in which I am most interested myself for a number of purely personal reasons it being the case that I have in mind the creation of an easy-to-use worldwide permanent calendar using the present Gregorian calendar on the basis mentioned and therefore it is of course the case that (admittedly personally) I would like to have all the relevant matters, including this one, which I believe are in favour of the Gregorian calendar in its present form carefully considered if that is ever going to be possible (q.v. also of course the remarkable article as cited on this article page, calendar reform).

Peter Judge — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.30.144.15 (talk) 17:37, 20 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Advantage??!!

"Holidays such as Christmas and New Year's Day as well as birthdays always occur on the same day of the week every year.". Why is this under "advantages"? What if some holiday falls in a weekend forever due to this so you never get a day off for it?

Answer:

Not a problem. Move holidays to weekdays. An advantage of a fixed calendar is that holidays, once put on weekdays, are automatically there every year.

What if a kid would like to celebrate their birthday on a schoolday so all their friends are there, but has it in a weekend every single year?

Answer:

Then celebrate his/her birthday on the Friday or Monday adjacent to that weekend. Designate your birthday celebration at whatever date, a perpetual weekday or a perpetual weekend, that you prefer.

188.60.248.15 (talk) 12:52, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Also what if the kid would like a birthday on the weekend so they don't have to go to school? Jimp 10:01, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Monday start

Hanke & Henry seem to have changed their proposal to adopt Monday as the first day of the week (hence quarter and year) in early 2016, but not all their resources already reflect that. The original site says “Our new proposed starting date is 2018 January 1, Monday. Our previous efforts (week started on Sunday) are below.” It references a new site on the top, which has this to say in its Q&A section:

11.) Why 2018 January 1?
Because in both the current Gregorian Calendar, and in the new HH calendar, that day is a Monday (the start of a 7-day cycle, which we call a "week.")

— Christoph Päper 07:19, 20 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Incorrect statement removed again. Someone had "reverted" it back in. HH quarter's 2nd month doesn't have extra week.

Here's the incorrect statement that I've removed twice (removed it again after someone reverted it back in):

"The last month in each quarter has one day more than the other two (30:30:31), but the second month has one week more than the other two (4:5:4)."

No, it doesn't.

The 2nd month of Hanke-Henry's quarters has 30 days. That doesn't give it "one more week than the other two" months of the quarter.

How could a 30-day month have "one more week" than a 31-day month?

Presumably the reversion was done by the same person who initially included that careless incorrect statement.

I ask that person to actually reconsider what he's saying.

But if it's necessary to pursue Wikipedia's official remedies for careless and sloppy (and persistently re-posted) "original research" statements, then so be it.