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Fix Alt-Right information- ILLEGAL immigration. It's not immigration itself, but ILLEGAL. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.241.126.160 (talk) 01:12, 26 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Above warnings being ignored

Several editors asked you to stop and talk, but you decided to blunder ahead anyways without resolving the issue. To prevent further damage to the encyclopedia's content, and community, and wastage of other editors time and effort, I may block your account until such time as the above disputes are resolved. If you agree to stop the disputed actions until the dispute is resolved, you may be unblocked. Jehochman Talk 11:13, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Jehochman: What damage? Kelly hi! 11:31, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly. You don't understand. You need to stop and talk until there's a consensus. Do you agree? I haven't hit the block button yet and would prefer not to. Jehochman Talk 11:51, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Any block of me you make based on the above is likely to be controversial. You should probably go seek consensus before doing so. In the meantime I'm going to continue the same work I've been doing here for over eight years. And exactly what am supposed to seek consensus on regarding the above? I just did reach some consensus on Talk:Mentmore and Crafton Studs. Or is the warning that files uploaded by Giano are off-limits? You probably need to be more clear. Kelly hi! 11:57, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That's a good idea. Don't touch any of Gianos work. You've been bombing his talk page with notices. You've been harassing him, and at least three other editors besides him oppose what you are doing. As for me blocking you, nobody has objected except you. I will watch what you do and then decide whether to proceed. Jehochman Talk 12:03, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oh please. If you and others believe I'm violating policy then go raise it in an appropriate forum. In the meantime, I'll give your block threat all the consideration it deserves. Kelly hi! 12:07, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The forum has come to you. Here's an easy solution. You've done more then a few deletion nominations that have been disputed. Wait and see how they shake out before doing any more. That way you don't waste your time or anybody else's on a lot of unsuccessful nominations. Ok? Jehochman Talk 12:13, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, sounds good. Kelly hi! 12:14, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent. Thank you do much. Jehochman Talk 12:15, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Just to be clear, that applies to Giano's uploads or others in the same situation (obsolete or unused files with {{KeepLocal}}). I'll continue with others, particularly WP:F8, as that's the majority of the work I do. Kelly hi! 12:18, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I think that's right. Wait for existing disputed moms to resolve before making any more of the same type. Different type shouldn't be an issue if they aren't being disputed by reasonable editors. Jehochman Talk 12:38, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Jehochman: Absolutely. As you said yourself, just housekeeping. If you check my contribs, particularly my deleted contribs, you'll see I do a lot of it. Kelly hi! 12:56, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Jehochman: As you're a neutral admin, I'm sure you'll address comments like this as well. Kelly hi! 13:09, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Being experienced, and an admin yourself, I am sure you can successfully ignore an insult that's so obviously false. Sometimes less is more. Jehochman Talk 14:42, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Jehochman: If you read the rest of that conversation, you know that I did. And I'm sure you're perfectly aware of Wikipedia history. So don't pretend you're riding in on a white horse preserving the sanctity of the Five Pillars. Giano is equally capable of following the rules. If you're only giving block threats to one party, you're a hypocrite. I understand that Giano is unblockable, but by the same standard his opponents are unblockable as well. Kelly hi! 14:59, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Oh how very interesting. You know all about me do you. Let you come trolling for trouble on my talk page. That is fascinating and tells us so much. Giano (talk) 17:13, 11 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That discussion is mooted by our agreement. Please stick to it. Thank you. Jehochman Talk 12:20, 12 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

File permission problem with File:Cisaruv Slavik.jpg

Hi Kelly. Thanks for your message about Cisaruv Slavik.jpg. The procedure is too complicate for me. Please try to explain me exactly what I have to do. The photography is entirely mine, made with my Petax K30 or Benq camera (I don't remember), but it's the cover of a ultra-rare record impossible to find today.
If is it possible to resolve the problem well, otherwise I can provide you another of my original photos of this record that I own. Regards. Paolippe (talk) 12:49, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

SPI

The issue is being investigated, please do not make further edits to the SPI page. Salvio Let's talk about it! 20:23, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Salvio giuliano: Roger that. Kelly hi! 20:24, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Salvio Let's talk about it! 20:26, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Salvio giuliano: Are you also going to warn the other parties not to edit the page? Kelly hi! 21:02, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
If they edit the page, sure. I'll revert the edit and ask them to please refrain from making further edits (for what it's worth, it's a request, not a warning). I didn't ask them, because I got the feeling they were simply replying to you... Salvio Let's talk about it! 09:25, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Salvio giuliano: OK, fair enough. Kelly hi! 09:37, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

File permission problem with File:Delaine Eastin EOS Luncheon 2014.jpg

Hi Kelly hi! - I had the author of the image send an email to permissions-en@wikimedia.org per your request, hope that works! Thanks. Norramic (talk) 20:58, 12 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Norramic: Thanks! Kelly hi! 05:15, 13 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

File:Green Sunday.jpg

Hello Kelly, When you have an opportunity, could you take a look at File:Green Sunday.jpg? I am working on the William Kurelek page, and would like to use it in the article. Can you help me with this? Nicola Mitchell (talk) 15:09, 16 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Nicola Mitchell: Hi, Nicola - in order to satisfy WP:NFCC#8, you would probably want to make sure that the William Kurelek article includes some commentary on this specific artwork. Otherwise it looks good to me! Kelly hi! 15:54, 16 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I'll mention it in the paragraph next to it. Thanks for this! Nicola Mitchell (talk) 16:17, 16 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

William Kurelek

Hello Kelly, Could you take a look at this article? Hullaballoo Wolfowitz just showed up and deleted all the images that I was using to illustrate the various stages of the artist's development. How could I muster Wikipedia support to get these images reinstated? Nicola Mitchell (talk) 21:29, 13 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've added in Purpose of use in article (WP:NFCC#8) to each of the deleted images. My addition comes after the semi-colon. Nicola Mitchell (talk) 15:28, 14 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Kelly, After talking to another editor, I've reconciled myself to one image, and I'll rework the article to that end. Sorry to have bothered you. Nicola Mitchell (talk) 12:10, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Blackfriars Arts Centre October 2004.JPG

My wife took the picture, I processed it and then released it under Creative Commons. The image is therefore in the public domain. Zerbey (talk) 15:24, 10 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Non-free image

Hi there. You dropped a note on my page yesterday about an image that needs a non-free rationale but haven't continued the conversation I responded on my talk page. I'm guessing you're just not checking back there. Anyway the image in question is File:Ben W Bell Choya 05 June 2007.jpg. I'm curious as to why it's suddenly been tagged, after 10 years, of needing a non-free rationale and why it needs a non-free rationale in the first place when it's a photograph that I took. Thanks. Canterbury Tail talk 10:41, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Canterbury Tail:...it's because the photo is a derivative work of copyrighted product packaging, see {{non-free product cover}}. For an example of this type of rationale, see File:Lemon Coke bottle.jpg. However, a rationale for the article Umeshu probably wouldn't be accepted, as it could be replaced by a photo of umeshu without copyrighted elements. It could be used in an article about Choya, though. This link might also be helpful in explaining. Kelly hi! 11:19, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. US copyright law is downright weird just because it sits on servers in the US. So is that the same case with this photo? I see it's used on the Cola article but isn't tagged as needing such a rationale. File:Flasche Coca-Cola 0,2 Liter.jpg. Canterbury Tail talk 11:44, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that's one example where things can get complicated - the original Coca Cola logo is old enough that the copyright has expired, but newer Coke product logos like the Lemon Coke logo above are still under copyright protection. Commons also still has a ton of images of copyrighted product packaging that nobody has got around to deleting, as this example is not widely understood. Kelly hi! 11:49, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. So here is the muddle. Wikipedia's servers are in the US. The photo is of a Japanese product, purchased in Japan with a photo taken in Japan and then uploaded from the UK. Does Japan's free use non-profit copyright laws apply here or the US's? Just trying to make sense of it. Canterbury Tail talk 12:08, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Generally speaking, US law applies here on en Wikipedia. Hence, we have templates such as {{FoP-USonly}} and {{PD-US-1923-abroad}}. On Commons, the file must be "free" in both the US and in the source country. Kelly hi! 15:43, 10 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oldham War Memorial

Hi, thanks for the addition to the Grade II* listed buildings in Greater Manchester article. A quick query: this [1] tells me that the architect was Thomas Taylor, with Toft doing the sculpture. I wonder if they should have a joint credit in the "Architect" column? I've tried something on these lines at the War Memorial's own page. See what you think.

Regards. KJP1 (talk) 13:01, 1 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@KJP1: - that sounds good, thanks for the message. Kelly hi! 13:35, 1 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Problem image

Hello, Kelly! I've been asked how to deal with a problem image, and I thought I would ask you, since you are an admin both here and at Commons, and you know how things work. The image is called "File:League of the South new logo.jpg". That is a fake name; it is actually a gross picture of a toilet full of feces, with "League of the South" pasted over it. It was inserted into the article League of the South and promptly deleted, but I am wondering if it should also be deleted from Commons? I guess being gross is not a valid reason for deletion from Commons, but maybe the fake name? And I don't know if the copyright status ("own work"?) is valid. I'm not familiar enough with how things happen there so I thought I would (with apologies) ask you to see if anything needs to be done with it. Thanks! --MelanieN (talk) 03:41, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@MelanieN: I've deleted it, thanks for the message. Kelly hi! 08:19, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Question Regarding Copyright - Canada or US?

Hi Kelly,

I appreciate your edit regarding copyright designation for the following image (see link below). However, I am very confused by your designation of it as public domain in relation to US instead of Canadian copyright law--I just wanted to clarify. I also believe that the banner claiming that the image should not be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons is inaccurate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Departure_of_Coast_and_Interior_Salish_Chief%27s_Delegation_to_England,_1906.jpg

The image was created in Canada under Crown Copyright prior to 1966, and is, according to the source, public domain in Canada. The source is the City of Vancouver Archives (in Canada--just to be clear, and no ill judgment intended, not Vancouver, Washington, which would be an understandable error).

The author was a Canadian (he worked for the Vancouver Archives https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._S._Matthews ), and several other images published by this individual are found in the same article, all of which are credited as public domain under Canadian law with the file banner / template: {{PD-Canada-Crown}}

Thank you, Sturgeontransformer (talk) 03:58, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Sturgeontransformer: I actually wasn't aware of the {{PD-Canada-Crown}} license until now, thanks for the heads-up on that. I have no objection if you would like to change the license on the photo above. Kelly hi! 08:25, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I will do that. Best, Sturgeontransformer (talk) 18:42, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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A barnstar for you! Tallahassle (talk) 18:45, 25 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Derivative work?

Please help me to understand why this file is a derivative work and the license applied when it was uploaded 10 years ago are not appropriate. I'm not familiar with the topic and I don't understand why an unaltered photograph of an item is derivative. Thanks. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 12:23, 12 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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